Suicide Girls Redux

So, wait. You're retracting all your statements that you object to SG, as long as we stop talking about it on the forums?

Oh good grief.... my 'greeter' role has NOTHING to do with the debate going on.

I greet everyone the same, regardless of who they are, and I think I do a pretty good job of it. I've certainly never had any complaints.

Seriously... I shouldn't even have to defend myself against this latest grasping at straws attempt of yours to discredit me and my point of view.

Lewis

Really? So thats why your saying 'we' don't need people like 'that' 'here'?

I think thats hardly the attitude one should have - and I think its VERY relevant to this thread.

And what about the SG, does what they do on their website have any bearing to what they do here? according to you its one in the same - why is it any different when the roles are reversed?

No, my point of view remains the same. I'm just saying that this debate can die and disappear, those who want to interact with the SG crowd can either do so on their forums, or in game if they prefer, and those of us who want nothing to do with them don't have to worry about it.

Oh I'm sure that someone is scheming now that when I log on one day I'll come home to find 40 naked SG models pixel humping in my nightclub. I am sure you will find it amusing but I certainly won't, and will just find somewhere else to play - or log out until they've moved on.

Lewis

Even in letting it you you use your broad brush to paint people you don't know with your own delusional stereotype.

That, in a word, is just sad... very sad.

I think it says it all.

Wouldn't want to give you the dwell, Lewis.

Lets face it, you're hoping that happens 'cause it'll get you some Lindens in your balance.
Nice try at boosting your traffic though.

It doesn't actually matter what you think... Jeska hired me, based on my application, and the experience I put forward in support of it. The fact I remain a greeter would, I assume, mean that nobody has put in any compaint as to the experience I gave them in their dealings with me. As individual players, without the surname, I wouldn't have a clue that the human behind the avatar was in fact a porn model in real life, and it doesn't matter to me either. But having been labelled with the special surname, it brings attention to them straight away - much of it may well be unwanted I am sure. Assuming I pick up a new player when they go through Orientation Island and the Help Island, they aren't even likely to be wearing next to nothing and covered in bling either.

But this thread is about the SG, and whether they were a suitable group to be introduced into the game through a special deal as a first example. Stop bringing me and my greeter role into the equation. The train is back on the tracks.

Lewis

I dunno Selador but, for some reason, you've made me wonder what ever happened to LL's research into voice masking for audio chat

If, as your profile says. the lewis in the game is the real life you in pixellated form, your "greeter role" is very relevant.

Sooooooo it doesn't matter what you think about the SG then seeing as Wilder made the arrangement with them and theres been no world complaints made?

Or can we only have these things 'both ways'

I'll bring you into it because its reflects absolutely on your viewpoint - something is good one way , but not another... its ok for YOU to judge people, but not ok for others to judge YOU... it's ok for YOU to do something in SL, but not ok for someone ELSE.

YOU wish your views and secondlife to be seperate from your Greeter position , and yet you say this other group of people can't.

I think its all very relevant and all very telling.

Also - as an aside - you don't get to tell me what I can say or can't.....

I don't need the money. I would rather learn myself how to make something than buy it, and in fact apart from L$1 stuff from YadNi's, I've only bought 3 things. I don't have any need for in-game wealth, and I don't have any intentions of 'cashing out' to real money either.

Neither do I require money for raffle balls or camping chairs in a desperate attempt to make my property look popular.

I build in game purely for my entertainment and that of my friends... if anyone else finds it enjoyable, then that is a bonus.

Lewis

From: Nolan Nash

You're welcome, I wish I could touch on upon the finer points like that without pissing people off, as I seem to do. It certainly is sound logic (your prior post) , in my eyes.

Yes, but if you notice, it's my kind of posts that is usually looked over. Frankly because it's too 'clear' or 'soft'. I've noticed that most people would only reply strongly on emotional posts than objective ones. I think that's why I avoid being witty, sarcastic or use too much hyperbole. Some people can take them quite literally....^^;; heee.....

Then again I'm not immune to strong posts myself but my usual way of avoiding it is forcing myself to write a response for at least five minutes before posting, pressing the preview button at least five times, and then before clicking submit, I then ask myself..."Is it really worth it posting this message if I am going to be hurting other people in the process?" Nine times out of ten my answer is always 'No.'

But then again sometimes, no matter what we write, someone will misunderstand, someone will twist your words to suit them. It's sad but true, it's at that point that I realize that there is no thread out there worth being angry or upset over, that I finally decide to leave the discussion.

But I digress...we're supposed to be talking about SG. Anyway, I'm hoping any of the SG girls will be online around this time. It's hard for me, being 12 hours earlier than everyone else to see anyone or anything at all.

Mew.

Yay! The Benny Hill Group is coming!

*pats you on the head, but ever so careful to make it not appear sexual*

You are more than welcome to think it is... I don't. Deal with it.

Evidently you have nothing of value to say about the subject in hand, because you are now sinking to trying to attack my character and my integrity, and trying to belittle my worth in an official Linden-recognised position in the lame hope of getting some sort of 'revenge' by trying to get me kicked off of the programme.

Sad... truly sad. Thankfully, help is available for you if you choose to seek it.

Lewis

Not really - I'm pointing out your hypocrisy.. and your last line in this very post points it out again for me..

'attack my character and integrity' followed by what I think is supposed to be something about my mental state.

I don't have to belittle your worth and integrity - you do it for me.

I don't need 'revenge' because none of anything you've tried to say makes a lick of difference to me. All you've made is some very lame jabs that have fallen very short of the mark.

And I will continue to do so --- so 'deal with it' if you're able.

So why do you continue to attack me if you aren't seeking to 'make a point'? Is it just because you can still post?

Lewis

*cuts a big slice of irony from the air*

Now that I would love to see!

Assuming your comprehesion skills are up to par - I'm pointing out the utter hypocrisy in what you're saying.

And its laced back through this entire thread - also your broad brush painting of stereotype of people you don't even know.

My point is - you really have no point - no point you can back up with facts - anything other than speculation, name calling and finger pointing.

Its fine for one set of folks to do something or be something - so long as its what you want them to be... Well sorry dude but it aint going down that way at all.

And again - it's not 'attacking' I'm pointing out what you yourself have said.

If you can't grasp that - too bad.

as for 'because I can still post' - well chances are I'll be posting here for quite a long times to come.... so you better put that on the plate of things to deal with.

Just imagine how much quieter this thread (and, heck, this board as a whole) would be if the forum admins would simply activate the "Ignore user" option available to vBulletin 3.x boards.

I'm behind on the forums and know nothing about promotion and blah blah, and I also don't feel like slogging through over 30 pages to catch up, but I'll answer the main question. Before I do I have to say it's a weird bit of synchronicity. The episode of HBO's Real Sex featuring the Suicide Girls was just on. It was an oldie, but still odd timing to turn it off and then see this thread.

If they are anything like they were in the show then I think it's great they are in SL. They came off as fun, open and creative people. Not to mention sexy as hell.
I've always been a fan of classic pin-up art and love the modern take on it. To me
their pictures don't seem like "porn" they have a different "feel" to them. On the show they came across as sexy empowered women comfortable in their own bodies, in their very real and not perfect (by societies standards at large) bodies to boot. If it is porn, (and please don't anyone send me a dictionary definition of porn, I don't care) then I find it a refreshing change from the silicone perfection usually displayed.

So...<shrugs> guess, in general I'd welcome them being in SL.
But I'm all boring in my being pretty tolerant of people.

Sun
(who got a slight girl crush on the photographer
that was on the HBO special.)

Or how much quieter it would be if the mods would actually respond to, and deal with, the posts that are reported for breaking the CS.

Lewis

I'm expecting Lewis to get all Jules Winnfield on us shortly. Don't know why, just a feeling I'm getting.

Or could it be possible that you misinterpret community standards, and the reports you refer to, are disregarded as spurious.

As I have no idea who that is, it's hardly likely, but if it gives you some hope in life, then go for it.

Lewis