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Excellent post - I agree with everything that you said in it completely.
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.... Excellent post - I agree with everything that you said in it completely. _____________________
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Dammit, Coco --calling Cris a sexist is MY job ![]() I believe you called me a woman hater, mi amor. _____________________
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I do however have an issue with the idea that any resident who persistently flaunts their intolerance, hypocrisy and closed mindedness to the thoughts, feelings and opinions of those that do not share their own personal views whilst considering themselves qualified to sit in moral judgement of others for the good of the community would be allowed to represent themselves to new residents as they enter SL as an official Linden approved representative of a community that I belong to. I totally agree. So many people have been attacking me here it's quite silly that many of the posts that have been made remain. Isn't it funny that so many people who attack me for 'judging' a group of people I have never met (or have any desire to) have no problem themselves attacking me, who they have never met either. Lewis _____________________
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Hey, what did we ever do to you? I hear Mings are Merciless, and that's just evil _____________________
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02-10-2006 08:56
Another thing you said here made me think of something. Awhile back, as part of the Chinatown project, Bedazzle had a series of artistic nude images featuring some well known women in SL. They were sexy, stylized photos that celebrated the female body. They were not explicit, they weren't hardcore porn. They were done in the tradition of fine art nude photography from Chinatown. These were the photographer's artwork - the photos were beautifully stylized in Photoshop. it was softcore porn. so is this. softcore porn can be artistic and stylized. "celebrating the female body"??? come on now. let's just call a spade a spade and admit that boobies are nice to look at. _____________________
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02-10-2006 08:58
Wilder Linden: and i can certainly extend myself to them as well Wilder is happy to approach any groups that I think might be interested in coming into SL, if I pass on details. Doesn't that totally contradict the big "No" that you posted? Lewis I totally expected to see this: for some people "extend myself = approach". When I think of "extend myself", I imagine sitting in a chair. Someone approaches me. I extend my hand in greeting. I don't extend myself by getting out of the chair. Leaving the room. Leaving the building. And taking some form of transportation to approach that person in their building. In their room. In their chair. |
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it was softcore porn. so is this. softcore porn can be artistic and stylized. "celebrating the female body"??? come on now. let's just call a spade a spade and admit that boobies are nice to look at. Yes, they are nice to look at. However, it does go beyond that. All kinds of art throughout history has included the naked female and male form. They are things of beauty that definitely goes beyond a simple "hooray for boobies" mentality. _____________________
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I totally agree. So many people have been attacking me here it's quite silly that many of the posts that have been made remain. Isn't it funny that so many people who attack me for 'judging' a group of people I have never met (or have any desire to) have no problem themselves attacking me, who they have never met either. Lewis Erm, Earth to Lewis, Earth to Lewis......... The poster was talking about you!!!! That you, who sits on a chair way up in their percieved moral high ground, should not be given the job of meeting new residents as they arrive. Sheesh. _____________________
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I seriously think this went a little too far...
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Interesting point, Sunenrec, about "Suicide" already existing as a first name. However, again, that was the choice of individuals, rather than a last name basically foisted upon the community as a Linden choice, with Linden approval, sanction, promotion, and applause.
To sum up my points, since we have gotten so far off the track and all over the map with this: 1. LL approached Suicide Girls to woo them into coming to SL. 2. As part of the package offered, they gave them an exclusive last name and land to play on. 3. The Suicide Girls website is not just an "online community," it is also a for-profit business (owned, by the way, by a man). 4. The academic and special-needs groups given these sorts of considerations in the past were non-profit activities. 5. The first evidence of any non-profit group being given these perks (without having to pay for them, as in the cases of the EBay auction and Wells Fargo) is a porn site. 6. A Linden is the founder of this group with SL, the same Linden, apparently, who approached them in the first place. That Linden has written a glowing description of them in the group description. 6. None of this is good. coco _____________________
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I seriously think this went a little too far... Hey Mnislahi, welcome to SL ![]() First rule: don't stress about the forums. A very small percentage of people really read them at all, especially General. Those of us that frequent them love talking an issue to death...and beyond! In a few weeks time, this will be done and forgotten with, and the next drama du jour will be upon us. Enjoy yourself, have fun, and the rest is easy. ![]() _____________________
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I'd still like clarification on this comment (among others you've still not addressed), Lewis:
If Christians lock themselves away from the rest of the world, how are they going to achieve anything and tell anyone? Jesus got flak for hanging around with the thieves, prostitutes and tax collectors - yet the "lowest of the low" in society of the time were exactly the sort of people who needed to hear His message the most. There is a reason I play SL. I'm now very concerned about your role as a Greeter. |
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I seriously think this went a little too far... Try not to take it personally, the forums generally go too far most of the time ![]() Welcome to SL ![]() _____________________
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Erm, Earth to Lewis, Earth to Lewis......... The poster was talking about you!!!! That you, who sits on a chair way up in their percieved moral high ground, should not be given the job of meeting new residents as they arrive. Sheesh. Cluelessness is hilarious. _____________________
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02-10-2006 09:07
I'm firmly in the "I don't give a (insert favorite expletive here)" club. I have never been to the SG site, cause emo goth girls aren't my thing, but if it makes them happy it's cool with me. If you're so thin skinned you get offended by a single word, I'm wondering how you made it to adulthood without sobbing in a corner every 5 minutes. Yes I have known someone who committed suicide, but it's just a word, it's like getting offended by the word "cheese" and expecting no one to ever say it or type it in your presence again.
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I seriously think this went a little too far... Welcome to the forums! We're all about beating dead horses. Jump in! disclaimer: the forums might be full of a bunch of people who are bored at work or procrastinating at work. Please make adequate preparations for posts that range from the sublime to the ridiculous. _____________________
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Welcome to the forums! We're all about beating dead horses. Jump in! disclaimer: the forums might be full of a bunch of people who are bored at work or procrastinating at work. Please make adequate preparations for posts that range from the sublime to the ridiculous. Want to swap naked pictures? _____________________
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I seriously think this went a little too far... Blame it on Ingrid Ingersoll. Welcome to SL, btw. ![]() _____________________
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I haven't finished reading this thread, but I think I may see one part of the confusion, so I will stop to explain my reading of things now. "Q. Is there a deal/agreement/contract between Linden Lab and the Suicide Girls? A. No Q. Were the Suicide Girls approached by Linden Lab to join Second Life as a part of a program or promotion? A. No" What was apparently meant by this was Wilder approached the Suicide Girls, but it wasn't as a part of a program or promotion. (That is, an official program or promotion, already announced.) Not that they didn't approach them. Moreover, a SG herself said at one point, I believe, that LL approached them. I'll remove all this at some point if it turns out on reading further that I have misread the whole deal. Meanwhile, this clears up at least one part of why we are arguing, because people have read this differently. coco Well, you're starting to catch on, imo. That's a good sign. However, as to the word "approach", I'd be careful. What does that really mean? Is a member of SG who makes a comment using that word a) an official spokesperson? b) relaying hearsay? c) involved in the business dealings? d) even aware that the word may be inappropriate to accurately convey what occurred? |
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Interesting point, Sunenrec, about "Suicide" already existing as a first name. However, again, that was the choice of individuals, rather than a last name basically foisted upon the community as a Linden choice, with Linden approval, sanction, promotion, and applause. To sum up my points, since we have gotten so far off the track and all over the map with this: 1. LL approached Suicide Girls to woo them into coming to SL. 2. As part of the package offered, they gave them an exclusive last name and land to play on. 3. The Suicide Girls website is not just an "online community," it is also a for-profit business (owned, by the way, by a man). 4. The academic and special-needs groups given these sorts of considerations in the past were non-profit activities. 5. The first evidence of any non-profit group being given these perks (without having to pay for them, as in the cases of the EBay auction and Wells Fargo) is a porn site. 6. A Linden is the founder of this group with SL, the same Linden, apparently, who approached them in the first place. That Linden has written a glowing description of them in the group description. 6. None of this is good. coco 1. so? 2. so? 3. so? 4. so? 5. so? 6. so? _____________________
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