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Siggy Romulus
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02-10-2006 00:13
From: Lewis Nerd
Let's hope that they realise that you also do not represent all that SL is.

Lewis


You ever met me?

No.

So, you are hereby cordially invited to go fuck yourself, until you do something worthwhile in SL other than bitch about sex.

Personally I think I know which one of us most would like to meet.

Thxbye
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Lewis Nerd
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02-10-2006 00:20
From: Siggy Romulus
You ever met me?

No.

So, you are hereby cordially invited to go fuck yourself, until you do something worthwhile in SL other than bitch about sex.

Personally I think I know which one of us most would like to meet.

Thxbye


Well I'm glad that your ego is so overinflated that you can confidently know that you are a more popular person than me.

What do you actually do in game? Anything? Or do you just hang around sleazy sex clubs getting your virtual nads off?

Go and troll somewhere that your input is appreciated. I'm not wasting any more time having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

Lewis
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02-10-2006 00:20
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Siggy R:

You ever met me?

No.

So, you are hereby cordially invited to go fuck yourself, until you do something worthwhile in SL other than bitch about sex.

Personally I think I know which one of us most would like to meet.

Thxbye


OMG that is so out of line. :mad:

If you can't win a discussion attack ppl. Nice MO guys. Nothing ever changes does it LL.

I have something else to say!

Griefers are alive and all to comfortable in the LL forums. Why are some ppl continuouly allowed to GRIEF ppl whos opinion differs from their own on the fourms? It's not only common practice it's also common knowledge. Where are the ResMods who were suppose to be watching out for this sort of thing? Is that another system that failed?

I'm so sick of this forum Griefing I could puke. "I'm not winning the discussion, no matter how much I belittle and insult, I must now cus at that person"

Yeah that's the adult way to handle a heated discussion, apparently it is. Since it's always been allowed. I call it Griefing.

I invite the lindens to insert their names to whom the above post was directed at and then tell me they would tolorate being spoken to this way. That post was made to insite anger and by God it did.

Be the change, or not!
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02-10-2006 00:50
From: Martin Magpie
OMG that is so out of line. :mad:

If you can't win a discussion attack ppl. Nice MO guys. Nothing ever changes does it LL.

(snippage of bullshit)!


Heal thyself physician or stand to look like a hypocrite.

The discussion was 'won' quite a while ago when several people carried with this 'special arrangement' crap because they are too retarded to read the offical party line.

Now go back and look where your buddy chimes in...

Sick of the forums? Good - I honestly think they're sick of you too.

You can chime and whine and say you'll leave but that busted record has played before too. Take your own advice - PLEASE. Or just for once make good on your empty threat of going bye bye..

'Be the change' 'be the twat' more like. Heres a double dose of up your arse to go with his go fuck yourself.

Honestly - you're all idiots in glass houses - and if you'd vanish up your own urethras you'd be doing the world a huge favor..



Ahhhh I feel so much better now... some things just have to be said.
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Siggy Romulus
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02-10-2006 00:51
From: Lewis Nerd
Well I'm glad that your ego is so overinflated that you can confidently know that you are a more popular person than me.

What do you actually do in game? Anything? Or do you just hang around sleazy sex clubs getting your virtual nads off?

Go and troll somewhere that your input is appreciated. I'm not wasting any more time having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

Lewis


Lol I don't have to inflate myself :) I don't go to sex clubs either - go do a look outside of your own lil parcel and you'll soon see enough.

I can confidently say that - mainly because - well - its true :)

Personally the less of your self righteous bullshit I have to stomache here, the happier I am..
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From: Jesse Linden
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02-10-2006 00:53
From: Siggy Romulus
Heal thyself physician or stand to look like a hypocrite.

The discussion was 'won' quite a while ago when several people carried with this 'special arrangement' crap because they are too retarded to read the offical party line.

Now go back and look where your buddy chimes in...

Sick of the forums? Good - I honestly think they're sick of you too.

You can chime and whine and say you'll leave but that busted record has played before too. Take your own advice - PLEASE. Or just for once make good on your empty threat of going bye bye..

'Be the change' 'be the twat' more like. Heres a double dose of up your arse to go with his go fuck yourself.

Honestly - you're all idiots in glass houses - and if you'd vanish up your own urethras you'd be doing the world a huge favor..



Ahhhh I feel so much better now... some things just have to be said.



You cannot tell me to fuck off then expect me to have a discussion with you. Get real Enbrhan or Grimmy or what ever you go by this week.
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02-10-2006 00:55
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02-10-2006 01:00
From: Siggy Romulus
*edited*t


I saw so many of your posts at once telling ppl to fuck off, shut the fuck up ect.

Oh my bad. :rolleyes: Don't expect ppl to take you seriously with that kind of forum griefing under your belt.

Hope it was worth the vacation. :cool:
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Siggy Romulus
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02-10-2006 01:02
From: Martin Magpie
I saw so many of your posts at once telling ppl to fuck off, shut the fuck up ect.

Oh my bad. :rolleyes: Don't expect ppl to take you seriously with that kind of forum griefing under your belt.

Hope it was worth the vacation. :cool:


Time will tell I guess - 20 bucks says I'm posting tomorrow :)

I love it - I'm enebran or grimmy besides the fact I've been here longer than both of them ... put together.. hahah I have one alt .. and not forced on me by Forum embarrasment like yourself.. Pharkbawlz Brokken - who I use for testing scripts.

haha
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02-10-2006 01:11
From: Siggy Romulus
Time will tell I guess - 20 bucks says I'm posting tomorrow :)

I love it - I'm enebran or grimmy besides the fact I've been here longer than both of them ... put together.. hahah I have one alt .. and not forced on me by Forum embarrasment like yourself.. Pharkbawlz Brokken - who I use for testing scripts.

haha


Hey if that is LL call then thats that. I realy find it hard to believe however that posters can go around insighting anger, personaly attacking and saying "fuck you, shut the fuck up" and LL will look the other way. I find that real hard to believe. If they do however, then this company is far worse off than I had imagined they were in their PR dept. and their CS and TOS don't mean anything. I find that very hard to believe.

Was this post also meant to bait me into an arguement? Yes that is a griefer tactic often used. Give up, I no longer bite those hooks honey. :rolleyes:

Cat
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02-10-2006 01:11
From: Siggy Romulus
Personally the less of your self righteous bullshit I have to stomache here, the happier I am.


For one moment I hoped that means you'll be stepping away from the forums and leaving those of us who post points to do so, without having to read your personal attack drivel. But sadly I don't think it does.

Why do you have to turn threads from valid discussions into an argument, and derail it? I refuted your claim with something from a discussion I had with the Linden behind the whole experiment.

There was a topic somewhere. If you can't keep to it, don't post. I'm sure you won't be missed.

Lewis
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02-10-2006 01:12
From: Lewis Nerd
For one moment I hoped that means you'll be stepping away from the forums and leaving those of us who post points to do so, without having to read your personal attack drivel. But sadly I don't think it does.

Why do you have to turn threads from valid discussions into an argument, and derail it? I refuted your claim with something from a discussion I had with the Linden behind the whole experiment.

There was a topic somewhere. If you can't keep to it, don't post. I'm sure you won't be missed.

Lewis


Well said, and I'm going to take that advice too. :)

Cat
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Siggy Romulus
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02-10-2006 01:26
From: Lewis Nerd
For one moment I hoped that means you'll be stepping away from the forums and leaving those of us who post points to do so, without having to read your personal attack drivel. But sadly I don't think it does.

Why do you have to turn threads from valid discussions into an argument, and derail it? I refuted your claim with something from a discussion I had with the Linden behind the whole experiment.

There was a topic somewhere. If you can't keep to it, don't post. I'm sure you won't be missed.

Lewis


Nah I was refering to you saying you wouldn't talk to me - as for derailing - go back and check where you derailied it with your lil jab at me :)

Well the 'claim' was that lindens very post in these forums.. so you can refute it with another quote by the same linden.. only one I can't actually SEE was said by them.. onya!

hahah too damn funny.

Hey at least I own what I say rather than be a hypocrite and try and make out like I didn't say a damn thing - go back and look at your own posts. Then throw the stones.
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02-10-2006 01:30
From: Lewis Nerd
Christiano..... there are other groups currently in negotiation with LL regarding the same kind of 'in world presence'.

Do you find it strange that a number of independent and totally unconnected groups all happened to come up with the same idea about starting something in SL and contacting LL at about the same time... or is it just possible that LL approached a group of organisations?

Wilder Linden contacted me in game last night, having seen this debate on the forums, to try and clear up some of the issues. I did ask whether I had permission to share any of our discussion on the forum, and it was given.

I don't need to share the whole discussion but you might like to read this extract:

*edited*

Wilder is happy to approach any groups that I think might be interested in coming into SL, if I pass on details. Doesn't that totally contradict the big "No" that you posted?

Lewis



What other groups are also in talks with LL? If they are the same kinds of groups, yup I find that a bit of an oddity.

Nice to know that Wilder is open to other groups tho :)

Cat

PS: time for me to log I will catch up over coffee, if this thread is still open :)
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02-10-2006 01:46
I see Catherine is back in her "holier than thou" mode. All is right with the world. The natural order of things has been reinstated.

From: Martin Magpie
Oh my bad. :rolleyes: Don't expect ppl to take you seriously with that kind of forum griefing under your belt.


Though, I'm not sure anybody has ever taken you seriously. Wonder why that is *shrug*
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02-10-2006 02:01
From: Lewis Nerd
The fact that LL approached them and set up a special deal


Ok once more, and the emphasis is mine:

From: Wilder Linden


Q. Were the Suicide Girls approached by Linden Lab to join Second Life as a part of a program or promotion?
A. No

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02-10-2006 02:07
From: Cristiano Midnight
Ok once more, and the emphasis is mine:


*edited*

So we have conflicting information. SG were approached, with other groups, about an in world presence, and they happened to be the first. Believe what you want, I don't care.

I really don't want to get into a 'my text is bigger than your text' discussion because we all know what that compensates for.

Lewis
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02-10-2006 02:10
From: Martin Magpie
What other groups are also in talks with LL? If they are the same kinds of groups, yup I find that a bit of an oddity.


No specific names were given during our conversation but motorsport and sci-fi groups were mentioned in general. I have already suggested one group to Wilder since our conversation.

I merely think that SG happened to be the first to respond and that's why they 'start off' the programme of promoting outside groups through an online presence in game. Bad choice? Bad timing? Who knows.

Lewis
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Siggy Romulus
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02-10-2006 02:49
From: Lewis Nerd

So we have conflicting information. SG were approached, with other groups, about an in world presence, and they happened to be the first. Believe what you want, I don't care.

I really don't want to get into a 'my text is bigger than your text' discussion because we all know what that compensates for.

Lewis


Ah no you don't have conflicting info - the quote Cris says they WEREN'T approched by LL yours says 'we are open to helping other groups'

Wheres the confict?
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02-10-2006 02:54
From: Siggy Romulus
Ah no you don't have conflicting info - the quote Cris says they WEREN'T approched by LL yours says 'we are open to helping other groups'

Wheres the confict?

Yeah, funny how extending one's self to interested parties becomes "approaching", isn't it?
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02-10-2006 02:56
*meekly peeks from behind a boulder watches all the flames*

Just noticed that "Ming" is a possible offensive name listed earlier. Just curious as to why?
And noticed someone posted MILF? Not sure what that means either. ^^; (got confused since MILF here in my country means Moro Islamic Liberation Front )

And I took a peek of Suicide Girls website before... it looks very tame for a porn (??not even sure if it is a porn site or some artsy classy erotica) site, didn't subscribe. The pics are...tastefully done, from what I see. But not my thing. Don't see much of a problem seeing them in second life, unless they start promoting pornography and online prostitution (which they haven't done) is what I'll be having a problems with. I'll probably even join The Angry Mob (Tm) holding my own pitchfork and torch.

My personal opinion on the whole thing: Second Life could have looked on to other groups that are more PG friendly and I'm sure it bothers some folks that LL would use an erotica site to further market Second Life (and the possibility of later on branding SL as a sex game).

I think a lot of folks, especially parents will probably freak at this (and the conservatives, they are people too you know ;) ). As much as it doesn't offend my Christian sensibilities (live and let live, live by example, etc) I am a little bothered that SL would approach this kind of marketing. Maybe they're just targeting the goth crowd, thats why...don't know really but if that's the case I wonder myself if SL is going to be open to other groups out there, (like Anime groups, fantasy crowd, sci-fi crowd, matrix crowd, etc) and actively reaching for them in the same manner they did with Suicide Girls.

Marketing side, I don't see why it is an issue that the SG girls got some 'perks' (their own name, a bit of land - not even sure if this is confirmed or not) should be a problem. We do that all the time, a lot of companies as people have kindly pointed it out have done it too. There's nothing wrong in giving out perks to people they think will help promote their business.


Well anyhoo, I think my point is, is that I'd rather see SL being marketed as a place where creative, innovative people are, instead of an erotica kind of thing. But hey it's just me. I'm not LL and I can't tell them what to do. ^^; but overall, I'm pretty okay with it, since they haven't done anything harmful or harassing, I can't really complain (although I do wish that LL would be more open to name changing in the future for all of us)

And no I have no issues with the name 'Suicide' they can name themselves 'Hitler' or 'Saddam' for all I care. The important factor to me is how the individual acts towards others.:)

Mew.

side note: My question though, since they're so popular, I wonder if they would be open to the idea of advertising for content creators. :D
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02-10-2006 02:58
Ming is a term for fucking corpses
MILF is Mothers I Like To Fuck.

(just being eductational folks)
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02-10-2006 03:00
From: Yuriko Muromachi
*meekly peeks from behind a boulder watches all the flames*

Just noticed that "Ming" is a possible offensive name listed earlier. Just curious as to why?
And noticed someone posted MILF? Not sure what that means either. ^^; (got confused since MILF here in my country means Moro Islamic Liberation Front )

And I took a peek of Suicide Girls website before... it looks very tame for a porn (??not even sure if it is a porn site or some artsy classy erotica) site, didn't subscribe. The pics are...tastefully done, from what I see. But not my thing. Don't see much of a problem seeing them in second life, unless they start promoting pornography and online prostitution (which they haven't done) is what I'll be having a problems with. I'll probably even join The Angry Mob (Tm) holding my own pitchfork and torch.

My personal opinion on the whole thing: Second Life could have looked on to other groups that are more PG friendly and I'm sure it bothers some folks that LL would use an erotica site to further market Second Life (and the possibility of later on branding SL as a sex game).

I think a lot of folks, especially parents will probably freak at this (and the conservatives, they are people too you know ;) ). As much as it doesn't offend my Christian sensibilities (live and let live, live by example, etc) I am a little bothered that SL would approach this kind of marketing. Maybe they're just targeting the goth crowd, thats why...don't know really but if that's the case I wonder myself if SL is going to be open to other groups out there, (like Anime groups, fantasy crowd, sci-fi crowd, matrix crowd, etc) and actively reaching for them in the same manner they did with Suicide Girls.

Marketing side, I don't see why it is an issue that the SG girls got some 'perks' (their own name, a bit of land - not even sure if this is confirmed or not) should be a problem. We do that all the time, a lot of companies as people have kindly pointed it out have done it too. There's nothing wrong in giving out perks to people they think will help promote their business.


Well anyhoo, I think my point is, is that I'd rather see SL being marketed as a place where creative, innovative people are, instead of an erotica kind of thing. But hey it's just me. I'm not LL and I can't tell them what to do. ^^; but overall, I'm pretty okay with it, since they haven't done anything harmful or harassing, I can't really complain (although I do wish that LL would be more open to name changing in the future for all of us)

And no I have no issues with the name 'Suicide' they can name themselves 'Hitler' or 'Saddam' for all I care. The important factor to me is how the individual acts towards others.:)

Mew.

side note: My question though, since they're so popular, I wonder if they would be open to the idea of advertising for content creators. :D
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Siggy Romulus
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02-10-2006 03:03
Seems to me that the whole 'porn' debate and reasoning as to the whys and wherefores are just wild speculation as NOONE is privy to the facts but the two companies..


But based on what I've seen and read it seems to me like SG approached LL and is offering SL to its members in the same way you would offer webspace or a blog... I've seen absoutley nothing substantial to show this as a RL biz coming into Second Life (and whoop de doo even if it was).

Like a bulk discount like was offered with the island on ebay - and a group name as has been offered to other groups in the past.
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02-10-2006 03:09
From: Cristiano Midnight
different strokes


Given the content of the SG site, perhaps this wasn't the best of word choices... :D

(As for the dramarama, I have had a friend commit suicide, I'm not an SG subscriber because I'm a cheap bastich not because I object to porn/erotica, and I have no problem with LL making the arrangement with SG that was made or the custom last name set up for SG members who sign up for SL. Anything read into the above other than what is actually printed is the fault of the reader, not me. :p )
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