Suicide Girls Redux

Yup also true.

Cat

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Protip: Throwing your religion into a heated personal debate won't win your side of the argument.

Protip: Explaining the source of your SL name and having the source of your SL name obviously be in conflict with your supposed moral upbringing won't win your side of the argument.

Protip: Comparing an erotica site to Nazis isn't going to win your side of the argument.

Protip: Arguing for sexual prudishness in SL now is like arguing for horse right-of-way on the Interstate Highway System. That and it is MONSTEROUSLY unpopular.

Protip: Just because I'm Lordfly doesn't mean I don't occasionally make good points, even if you may not agree with my "loose" morality system.

Protip: Drink some beer, make love to your wife, just chill the fuck down.

What facts??? They're conjecture. Guesswork. Nothing more. If they're more than that, provide sources.

I bring up good questions here because I realize what I don't know. When someone starts using excuses like "facts we know of right now" to explain limited reasoning and jumping to conclusions, they should seriously reconsider hitting the "Submit Reply" button.

Typical.... I visit and look at a few pages, to make sure I'm right about my thoughts, and get put down for it. If I said I hadn't looked, I'd get put down for not having all the facts before posting. Can't win really.



And here we go again.... "people like you". So it's wrong for me to stereotype but it's fine for you to?



Email them and let me know what they say.

If Christians lock themselves away from the rest of the world, how are they going to achieve anything and tell anyone? Jesus got flak for hanging around with the thieves, prostitutes and tax collectors - yet the "lowest of the low" in society of the time were exactly the sort of people who needed to hear His message the most. There is a reason I play SL.

Lewis

Well, I'm guessing that because this group has been given the last name of "Suicide" because they all are new and have the last name of "Suicide" and they are the "Suicide Girls."

Since that name doesn't appear on the Join SL page as a choice, I'm guessing that they also have exclusive use of the (unfortunate) last name of "Suicide."

Since the group involved has Wilder Linden as its founder, and Wilder has this amount of land that she has given to the group, and has stated that this land is for the group's use, I'm going to guess that this group has been given this land for their use.

I'm going to go back to cleaning the guest room.

coco

Lewis, do you see what a hypocrite you seem to be making of yourself? Jesus hung out with the kinds of people you want to ban from your land...

OMG i can't believe i read all 22 pages of this thread and i have to say my brain hurts, i fully understand why some ppl would be offended by the last name, but this thread has gone far beyond that piont, Like several have said LL is a business , they have no obligation to tell us jack or s*hit about what they do. SG is porn , but that's my view piont and who cares, it's not like their aren't 20 or more sexual based events posted on the event calendar a day, if you don't want to see those you don't click that wonderful button that says allow mature events to be shown, same with these Girls.. if you see one in world, guess what you don't have to talk to them, you don't have to go to their wesbite and guess what unless you look it up you don't have to see their group either, That;s the wonderful thing about SL , you don't have to particpate if you don't too. isn't that nice? As for the land thing so what? Why is giving them land such a big deal? LL have given land to specialized groups for projects etc in the past, i didn't see anyone bitching about it then. let them have their land if they have any maybe they will build something interesting on it, who knows? but the bottom line is this.. SG being here is a done deal and no amount of screaming on the forums is really gonna matter. LL will do what it wants, when it wants because it's a business. It's their to make money and if SG being here brings in new player and increases the cash flow hey more power to them maybe they'll take that money and create some more cool stuff and *crosses fingers* fix a few more bugs and update some servers.. I love Sl and i'll continue to play. i don't have to agree with everything LL does for Sl to be an enjoyable place to hang out so bring on SG maybe they will bring some interest personalities as well as some interesting content into Sl reguardless of their last name .

Oh My GOD, there is porn in SL? On the internet? really? I never noticed. Shocking. Remove it immediatly. Also remve all buddhists christians democrats catholics communitss goreans furries bush supporters artits stepmothers bakers toenail-painters, fast food employees, gap employees NERDs for sure, geeks dweebs jocks cheerleaders gay straights bikers pro football players produce workers, wal mart presidents rulers dancers and anyone else who 1 breathes, 2. will ever think about sex, 3. has ever thought about sex, or 4 knows someone who might think about sex, because they are deteriorating our culture.

OMG i can't believe i read all 22 pages of this thread and i have to say my brain hurts, i fully understand why some ppl would be offended by the last name, but this thread has gone far beyond that piont, Like several have said LL is a business , they have no obligation to tell us jack or s*hit about what they do. SG is porn , but that's my view piont and who cares, it's not like their aren't 20 or more sexual based events posted on the event calendar a day, if you don't want to see those you don't click that wonderful button that says allow mature events to be shown, same with these Girls.. if you see one in world, guess what you don't have to talk to them, you don't have to go to their wesbite and guess what unless you look it up you don't have to see their group either, That;s the wonderful thing about SL , you don't have to particpate if you don't too. isn't that nice? As for the land thing so what? Why is giving them land such a big deal? LL have given land to specialized groups for projects etc in the past, i didn't see anyone bitching about it then. let them have their land if they have any maybe they will build something interesting on it, who knows? but the bottom line is this.. SG being here is a done deal and no amount of screaming on the forums is really gonna matter. LL will do what it wants, when it wants because it's a business. It's their to make money and if SG being here brings in new player and increases the cash flow hey more power to them maybe they'll take that money and create some more cool stuff and *crosses fingers* fix a few more bugs and update some servers.. I love Sl and i'll continue to play. i don't have to agree with everything LL does for Sl to be an enjoyable place to hang out, so bring on SG maybe they will bring some interest personalities as well as some interesting content into Sl reguardless of their last name .

Proselytizing is super.

But serioulsy can anyone tell me how having the suicide girls in second life alters it in any way from what is already here?

But Jesus didn't do a business deal with them did he? Or promote thier lifestyle as being perfectly acceptable when it went totally against His principles?

Lewis

It seems to be your standard type of "lifestyle marketing", where your product is promoted as part of a lifestyle instead of through blatant ads. By having Second Life references included in blog entries and on the site, as part of the activities that the group takes part in, it may help to draw others into SL because they see that SL is something these girls are interested in and become curious about it. The same concept is used with product placement all the time. There is nothing boneheaded about this decision - it is a very effective form of marketing.

It's entire purpose is to generate new membership via a specialized community. Again, the terms of the deal are none of our business - I can't believe how much customers of a company think they have a right to know about the inner workings of a business. Are you an investor? Why should you be privvy to any financial terms with any customers except yourself?

I just love how things get twisted to benifit ppl's personal agendas here and um elsewhere

Censorship Alive and Well

You as a customer do not get to define what is acceptable for LL, only for yourself.

Great clip

Based on what was said in the other thread, did you really feel a need to:

a) look for yourself?
b) pass judgement?

If you refrain from passing judgement (b), then you don't need to sneak a peek (a), do you?



I'm not stereotyping anyone actually. You proudly labeled yourself. "People like you" refers to people like "a straight, Christian, non-furry male who has no interest {*cough*} in the sleazy side of life".

Then you showed your hypocritical side by making this judgemental comment: "Your name is certainly not one that a Christian would have chosen...." after which you proudly informed everyone how you named your avatar for a character who perfoms cunnilingus on a woman in a raunchy movie. I certainly hope you see the disconnect.



I'm glad you said this. Seems to me you should be welcoming these people, not insulting them and using remarks and phrases like "lowest common denominator". Perhaps you should reinvestigate the real reason you're in SL, because your behavior and your remarks suggests to me - and perhaps others - that you've lost your way.

Neither did LL.

Did you invite them to SL? No. Did Jesus? No. LL did. Are you promoting their lifestyle? No. Is Jesus promoting their lifestyle? No. Is LL promoting their lifestyle? No. They did a business deal. Fine.

Jesus would most likely have welcomed them onto His land regardless of WHO let them in.

I was referring to the "actively promoting" comments. Are those also guesses?

That isn't the issue or the problem - it's LL's choice of who to choose to generate membership through that's what is causing the real upset, in case you hadn't noticed.

Lewis

Cristiano, I don't mean to give you the fear, but do you think Lewis could be the new alt of a Mr. Bell. We're getting into scary territory here.

Actually, there's a chance this is being done to weaken porn in SL.

See, the whole porn-in-SL thing involves a lot of suspension of disbelief: namely, believing that that sexy female avatar writhing on that pole is a sexy female, and treating her that way in character, when you know there's a good chance she's really isn't.

But now, basically, LL have given a bunch of avatars a sign, floating over their head, that they've been vetted and authenticated as actual RL models/adult workers.

It seems to me there's a risk that'll uncork the RL bottle. Suddenly, people may start to be more interested in the RL person they're dealing with - "after all, that girl whose last name is Suicide is effectively (by having that last name) telling me about her RL, so if you won't, what must that mean about you?"

It is perfectly fine to not approve of the subject matter. I don't think associating with a porn site is the wisest thing LL could have done either, but I don't have a problem with it overall. It has zero effect on my SL, and I don't see how it has any impact on yours either.