Suicide Girls Redux

Personally, I think LL probably just invited them in (but without strings attached). It's like some small start-up (e.g. FUBU) handing a ballcap to someone famous and letting the viral marketing take hold. Inviting in a popular web community seems like a good viral marketing manuever to me (*wonders how active the SG community is on MySpace*); exactly because their is no active promotion (*wonders again about an earlier thought/post that SL might be sold off to a bigtime media corp*).

...heheh; i realise we've never met, but i love you, enabran...

First rule of porn club - we do not talk about porn club
Second rule of porn club - WE DO NOT TALK ABOUT PORN CLUB

Different grids for different tastes would be good business, if there is sufficient demand to make it cost effective.

Linden Research would be in the background doing the computer graphics stuff they enjoy, and investors like Anshe would be paying the bills to the technology providers, creating different, separated virtual spaces to suit different market segments.

So Lewis Nerd would have a space to suit him better than the One Grid All Hail The One Grid space we have at present, assuming there is sufficient demand to make it profitable, which I am pretty sure there is.

There would be as many different grids as the market determined was profitable. So in one grid, you wouldn't have names based on cuss words, the names of genitalia, and such, while in a different grid, you would.

When you go to restaurant, you don't just order food, you order the things you like.

Paying for SL is like going to a restaurant and ordering "Food", then finding that you don't like a whole bunch of it, to the point where your displeasure over seeing the parts you don't like greatly reduces your ability to enjoy the parts you do.

No its more like going to a buffet: some things you like, some things you don't-but the food is all in one place. You take what you want and ignore the rest.

I finally had the time to read some of the posts in the locked thread and found some of it to be amusing and found that some of it got my panties in a twist. However, do you really think that there aren't cam girls or phone sex operators in SL already? I personally don't see anything wrong with the suicide girls being a part of SL. But then again a lot of you might label me as complete gutter trash because I am a phone sex operator. I have never come out and said it on the forums but I don't hide what I do from those that ask what I do irl for a job. I have never come out and said what it is that I do irl here, on the forums, because I don't want to be accused of "trolling" for customers. I have a customer base and have never approached SL as a means to grow that customer base. Sex sells ladies and gentleman weather you like it or not

That's what I generally do, Jake. I get irritated when I discover that the customers in line behind me are getting theirs for free.

coco

Well the join there club and get it for free too. Or figure out you own way to charm the manager. Or do what I do: pay for the meal, leave a big tip for the servers, and get right up on that moral high horse and walk out of the buffet knowing you are a better person for having paid.

But don't blame the people eating for free, and really don't blame the buffet for promoting its technology.

I'd venture that they're not "customers".

When FUBU handed LL Cool J a ballcap to wear, he wasn't a customer, he was a viral marketing vehicle. And when he put that ballcap on with the FUBU logo, their business took off. That cap might not have been paid for in a normal transaction, but when he wore it - as they asked him to wear it - for the camera, the publicity was worth millions to them.

When you can offer that kind of viral marketing muscle, you'll get yours too.

Still thinking to my self "That's a wierd move on LL part." But hey better I know now what they are pushing, than a year from now. Pimp Linden does have a certain ring to it

PS: I would like to start a group with the last name "Decent" our Motto: We provide a decent place in SL. Anyone wanna join? We get free land if there is enough of us lets do it!

I'm not sure why it irritates you so much that someone else is getting something you aren't. Do you get jealous over the other cell phone customers who might have more minutes than you for the same price because they got a special promotion when they signed up? If you feel you are receiving value for what you are paying for, then why worry so much about what other people are or are not getting.

The problem is what defines decent, Cat? Clearly your idea is different than Lewis, or mine, or someone else's. Does that mean those who don't match that definitely are indecent? Even common decency is often difficult to define, and certainly not all that common. What we should be doing is trying to find common ground with each other, instead of marginalizing people who don't fit our perceived set of morals.

Righto, Jake - I'll take off my clothes and get it for free.

I do NOT blame the people eating for free. That should have been clear long since.

I blame the management. I get to, too - Philip's profile says, "It's all my fault."

coco

I'm trying to get with the baseball cap analogy, Csven, but I still don't get it.

I don't understand it, I don't think, but I think it kinda trivializes this.

The rest of us pay all kinds of money for our land, and don't get special names. And this is not a non-profit group we're talking about.

coco

Noooo I just want the free land too It's a name "Decent" if you think you fit then you probably do Welcome brother Cristiano Decent!

what land? what are you talking about?

True. I question this too.

If Cat and some others use their resources to create what they feel is a "decent" place, what they determine to be decent is up to them, and who decides is the resource owners. Nobody needs to worry about what some ultimate essence of decency is.

Club Chaotica & Casino??? dunno

Thanks SuezanneC

You took issue with the idea of someone apparently getting something for "free". You're comment was: "I get irritated when I discover that the customers in line behind me are getting theirs for free."

You're characterizing this group as "customers". I think that may be premature. If you refrained from jumping to that conclusion, you might see this less as ( LL > customer SG = Cocoanut ) and more like ( LL = business SG > Cocoanut ).

Furthermore, my comment only trivializes this if your original comment about being irritated by someone getting something "free" is trivial. If you're unfamiliar with viral marketing in general, and FUBU in particular, you might find the subject both interesting and worthwhile.

free

land

What exactly is LL offering to SG? What does LL get in return?

They're offering a virtual space. And they are likely getting virtual word-of-mouth endorsements. Neither exists in the sense that they can be held. Virtual land is no more real than some SG model typing words about SL in her blog or profile or whatever they have.

The value of "land" to the Lindens is probably much less than the value of those words on someone's - their - website. Hence, I'd refrain from using the word "free" in the context that we, as regular customers of the service, use the term.

That is actually my point - this entire thread has often times revolved around the concept of what is decent in SL - and in the end, the only thing we can worry about is our own land and how we act - we cannot control others. If more people could just get that through their heads, things would certainly be better. Cat has the right idea - define your own version of decent with like minded people, and not worry about what anyone else is doing or the childish "oh noes! they got something I didn't get waaaah" hand wringing.

The not-from-SL slutty chicks, the 1.9 script controlled camera angle, Virtual Sex with Jenna, no connection, no connection, it's a coincidence.

I dunno if thats fair - controlled cameras have been wanted for a while. There are plenty of non-sex uses for it.