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Nolan Nash
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01-18-2006 09:22
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Enabran Templar
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01-18-2006 09:22
None of your previous posts showed any interest in this topic what so ever. You expect me to believe your now interested. Your not, its your drama headgames bs again. I don't buy it. I just told you, quite honestly, I wasn't that interested. ![]() But I'm mildly interested in observing the chasm across which you leaped to form your opinion. Hence the request for quotes. _____________________
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Martin Magpie
Catherine Cotton
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01-18-2006 09:45
Unnamed persons are not adding anything to this discussion except some need for drama. I hope LL moderators will see that I asked what I felt was an important question. More so I hope they take note of those trying to derail this thread into some personal pissing contest between themselves and I. I do not have the time or inclination to satisfy this need for trolls. Any person should be able to post any question to LL without fear of this type of strong arming. They have not mentioned one word regarding “security of the grid” in their responses. Therefore I see no need to reply to them directly. I eagerly wait a response from LL regarding the security of the grids as I stated below. intentional bump Dear LL; It has been noted in a few articles I read this morning that SI/WF moved to Active Worlds they sited security as one of the reasons for leaving SL. "not really being independent from the rest of the grid". This leads me to ask how separate is the teen grid really and how secure is it? We were assured that the teen grid would be separate. We were then told that it is on the same grid but invisible. So since I'm a paying customer I would like to know from LL what the security issue was regarding the independence/separation from the main grid? Catherine Cotton. _____________________
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Ingrid Ingersoll
Archived
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01-18-2006 09:47
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Enabran Templar
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01-18-2006 10:01
reported for not adding anything to the discussion but drama. Hey, now, Ingrid. Hey now. Come on, Marcat is entitled to shrilly demand answers from Linden Lab without any sort of input at all from the forum at large. Let's not be unreasonable here. _____________________
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prak Curie
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01-18-2006 10:23
Can we get some quotes? Secretlair -- Wells Fargos virtual Stagecoach Island shows cracks A Linden representative had once said that Wells Fargo's island was "not accessible" from the Main Grid, but based on eye-witness reports, it is possible (at the time of this writing) to transfer items between the two supposedly isolated areas. Not only possible, but not too difficult for any Second Life resident with coding skills. An obfuscated back door to Stagecoach Island was recently opened by a handful of Second Life residents who quickly found a number of bugs, exploits, and similar glitches--the most serious of which, perhaps, is the ability to transfer items between the Main Grid and Stagecoach Island. At the time of this writing, the back door has been closed, and accounts created by Second Life residents have been deleted. _____________________
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prak Curie
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01-18-2006 10:32
It really does not seem like anything we did not already know. Or even anything all that concerning. For whatever reason Linden Labs seems to only be able to have one asset server. Eventually I assume they will work out a way for that not to be the case and until then there is just a small risk that a few items might slip between walled off areas.
Sure, it is not want to are looking for if you are looking to wall yourself off but it really is hardly the end of the world. However, until it is fixed, it might be best to not push Second Life as a good idea for projects that require walls. _____________________
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Chris Wilde
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01-18-2006 10:43
Thanks for the info Prak. I agree that this should hardly be a huge concern for most SL residents. And if a resident had a huge concern over this, I'd sure like to know just what is "at risk" for them.
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
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01-18-2006 10:50
Hey, now, Ingrid. Hey now. Come on, Marcat is entitled to shrilly demand answers from Linden Lab without any sort of input at all from the forum at large. Let's not be unreasonable here. Shrill again. You need to know, Enabran, if you don't - that "shrill" is something often applied to women, in a male chauvinist way, as in "shrill, nagging fishwife." Have you ever applied the adjective "shrill" to a male poster? coco _____________________
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Reitsuki Kojima
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01-18-2006 11:11
Shrill again. You need to know, Enabran, if you don't - that "shrill" is something often applied to women, in a male chauvinist way, as in "shrill, nagging fishwife." Have you ever applied the adjective "shrill" to a male poster? coco Yes. Not that it's relevent. _____________________
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
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01-18-2006 11:11
Shrill again. You need to know, Enabran, if you don't - that "shrill" is something often applied to women, in a male chauvinist way, as in "shrill, nagging fishwife." Have you ever applied the adjective "shrill" to a male poster? coco I have never known the term "shrill" to be gendered or sexist. I hear it often in politics to describe the unpleasant or angry tone of public discourse. For example, in the following link, Tom Daschle uses the term to describe Rush Limbaugh: http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/11/20/daschle.threats/ _____________________
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Memir Quinn
Registered User
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01-18-2006 11:17
Gender isn't an issue here.
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Cocoanut Koala
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01-18-2006 11:18
Very nice, Aimee. But yes, y'all, "shrill" has been traditionally sexist.
More to the point, has Enabran ever applied it to a male poster, in addition to, say, me, or Catherine? If so, I will withdraw my case. coco _____________________
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Chris Wilde
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01-18-2006 11:19
Ok. Back to the regular drama. Before our break we were discussing WF security concerns and whether or not residents of SL should have concerns of their own.
Dave... _____________________
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Salazar Jack
Nova Albion native
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01-18-2006 11:20
I'm not sure if a situation like this has been mentioned before or not. I travelled incognito to one of the Wells Fargo islands and played around for awhile. My inventory included the always present Linden Library folder. I was able to attach one of the Atoll walkways to my head and hide underwater, thereby creating a new dock structure on the Wells Fargo Island that surprised a few folks when it began to move on it's own.
I know... pathetic waste of time. But it was interesting to see what the boundaries were. One of the folks from Spinning Media (?) IM'd me while I was there and asked me how I was able to build on their island. I told him about being able to attach objeccts from my inventory to my head (that 'ol cabinhead syndrome) and that it was an item from the Lindens' Library folder available to anyone there. I can see how just that sort of ability could cause a disruption for the experience they were looking to provide there. _____________________
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
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01-18-2006 11:20
Gender isn't an issue here. To try to play the sexism card over some manufactured forum drama (which I find neither sexist or chauvinistic, merely to play some "I wins the forum" game, over someone whom claims to be 'female' this week) is what I personally find offensive. I agree. This is a pet peeve of mine actually. Frivolous evocation of "racism" and "sexism" dilute the seriousness of two very real social stuggles. _____________________
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Dianne Mechanique
Back from the Dead
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01-18-2006 11:21
I have never known the term "shrill" to be gendered or sexist. I hear it often in politics to describe the unpleasant or angry tone of public discourse. For example, in the following link, Tom Daschle uses the term to describe Rush Limbaugh: http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/11/20/daschle.threats/ I agree it seems to have crossed the gender boundary now though. What I am really getting tired of is the whole "Enebran vs. coco" thing. It's unseemly. Those two should either get a room, or have a total knockdown dragout fight. _____________________
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
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01-18-2006 11:22
Which reminds me, Chris - I meant to ask you, from an earlier post: I thought that Stagecoach Island WAS subject to the updates, and the griefer take-downs of the grid, and that that was part of the problem.
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
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01-18-2006 11:23
Shrill again. You need to know, Enabran, if you don't - that "shrill" is something often applied to women, in a male chauvinist way, as in "shrill, nagging fishwife." Often? Does that suggest that it is sometimes does not carry such a connotation? I suppose you've answered your own question, haven't you? ![]() But thank you for your input, Cocoanut. I value the input of our university-educated residents who make money by the written word professionally and who everyone liked back when they were in TSO. _____________________
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
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01-18-2006 11:23
I think coco is right about it being mostly applied to females at least originally. I agree it seems to have crossed the gender boundary now though. What I am really getting tired of is the whole "Enebran vs. coco" thing. It's unseemly. Those two should either get a room, or have a total knockdown dragout fight. Well, remember - I've been called "shrill" on numerous occasions by Enabran and not spoken of it. Here I saw it applied to Catherine, and decided it was time to bring the matter up. And yes, it is historically a derogatory term for females. The word itself means "high-pitched," which female voices are. coco _____________________
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
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01-18-2006 11:24
Often? Does that suggest that it is sometimes does not carry such a connotation? I suppose you've answered your own question, haven't you? ![]() But thank you for your input, Cocoanut. I value the input of our university-educated residents who make money by the written word professionally and who everyone liked back when they were in TSO. You're welcome, EB! coco _____________________
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
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01-18-2006 11:24
Those two should either get a room, Dude, she already tried that with me once and it was the single creepiest SL experience I've yet had (aside from my newb explorations in the sky). Don't make jokes like that. ![]() _____________________
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Chris Wilde
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01-18-2006 11:25
I'm not sure if a situation like this has been mentioned before or not. I travelled incognito to one of the Wells Fargo islands and played around for awhile. My inventory included the always present Linden Library folder. I was able to attach one of the Atoll walkways to my head and hide underwater, thereby creating a new dock structure on the Wells Fargo Island that surprised a few folks when it began to move on it's own. I know... pathetic waste of time. But it was interesting to see what the boundaries were. One of the folks from Spinning Media (?) IM'd me while I was there and asked me how I was able to build on their island. I told him about being able to attach objeccts from my inventory to my head (that 'ol cabinhead syndrome) and that it was an item from the Lindens' Library folder available to anyone there. I can see how just that sort of ability could cause a disruption for the experience they were looking to provide there. Great post and on topic! _____________________
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Enabran Templar
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01-18-2006 11:25
Well, remember - I've been called "shrill" on numerous occasions by Enabran and not spoken of it. Here I saw it applied to Catherine, and decided it was time to bring the matter up. Who is Catherine? I don't know any Catherine in this thread. I hope you're not outing personal details again. _____________________
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Chris Wilde
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01-18-2006 11:27
So about this WF deal... *burns cosmo mags*
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