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Enabran Templar
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01-18-2006 12:30
From: Cocoanut Koala
(a) No, Enabran has never referred to a male poster on these forums as "shrill."


I've called some of Prok's writing shrill many times, though I'm not sure if I've done so in the forums, and Prok is a male, so I'm not sure what else we can give you.
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Cristiano Midnight
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01-18-2006 12:32
From: Enabran Templar
I've called some of Prok's writing shrill many times, though I'm not sure if I've done so in the forums, and Prok is a male, so I'm not sure what else we can give you.


I was just thinking of that one myself - no one has ever come across more shrill to me in these forums. The closest was Regnar Bell, who was also male.
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Enabran Templar
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01-18-2006 12:34
From: Cocoanut Koala
Fiddle dee dee. I'm sick of being called shrill by Enabran, and seeing him call other women the same thing. So I don't care what you think.


Hmm, the forum search says I have only invoked the word "shrill" five times, and "shrillness" once. That doesn't count this thread, as I don't think it has been indexed yet.

Maybe the word just happens to stick out with you for some reason. Dunno why it would be so resonant, though.
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Martin Magpie
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01-18-2006 12:34
And I'm sick of seeing women put down, talked down to and ppl posting for women saying "what she stands for, what she means, what she does"

It's all sexist to me and so is shrill in the tone and way it was used.

Women shouldn't have to put up with that kind of garbage, "virtual" or not.

As for you women defending these guys, please reconsider.
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Enabran Templar
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01-18-2006 12:35
From: Martin Magpie
And I'm sick of seeing women put down, talked down to and ppl posting for women saying "what she stands for, what she means, what she does"

It's all sexist to me and so is shrill in the tone and way it was used.

Women shouldn't have to put up with that kind of garbage, "virtual" or not.


Hahaha. 'Cause this is about women.
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Memir Quinn
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01-18-2006 12:37
From: Cocoanut Koala
Fiddle dee dee. I'm sick of being called shrill by Enabran, and seeing him call other women the same thing. So I don't care what you think.

coco



You seemed to care when you repeatedly stated that:

From: Cocoanut Koala
Originally Posted by Cocoanut Koala
To sum up:

(a) No, Enabran has never referred to a male poster on these forums as "shrill."


Which is in turn directly refuted by;

http://forums.secondlife.com/showpo...2&postcount=378

You seem to think you've the only right to speak to women's issues? To chauvinism? To sexism? Think again. As a woman I find your frivolous and contemptuous use of supposed sexism as a tool for your forum grudge matches offensive and pathetic.
Aimee Weber
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01-18-2006 12:37
From: Martin Magpie
And I'm sick of seeing women put down, talked down to and ppl posting for women saying "what she stands for, what she means, what she does"

It's all sexist to me and so is shrill in the tone and way it was used.

Women shouldn't have to put up with that kind of garbage, "virtual" or not.

As for you women defending these guys, please reconsider.


I will attack real sexism whenever and wherever I see it. I will not support flimsy accusations of sexism to bolster somebody's short term debate needs. It's as humilating to my gender as crying ... it may help win the battle but it takes a terrible toll on the war.
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Cristiano Midnight
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01-18-2006 12:38
From: Martin Magpie
And I'm sick of seeing women put down, talked down to and ppl posting for women saying "what she stands for, what she means, what she does"

It's all sexist to me and so is shrill in the tone and way it was used.

Women shouldn't have to put up with that kind of garbage, "virtual" or not.

As for you women defending these guys, please reconsider.


Calling someone shrill, while not pleasant, is no different than calling them whiny/annoying. How is any of that sexist? If I call a woman annoying, am I being sexist? No. Don't hide behind gender, race, or anything else - it is about the person.
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Enabran Templar
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01-18-2006 12:39
From: Memir Quinn
You seem to think you've the only right to speak to women's suffrage? To chauvinism? To sexism? Think again. As a woman I find your frivolous and contemptuous use of supposed sexism as a tool for your forum grudge matches offensive and pathetic.


Come on, Memir. She went to a university. Who are we to disagree?
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Aimee Weber
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01-18-2006 12:40
From: Enabran Templar
I've called some of Prok's writing shrill many times, though I'm not sure if I've done so in the forums, and Prok is a male, so I'm not sure what else we can give you.


I seem to recall this. Ok so Enabran has called a male "shrill." This makes Coco's case seem all the more contrived.
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01-18-2006 12:41
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Chris Wilde
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01-18-2006 12:43
From: Martin Magpie
And I'm sick of seeing women put down, talked down to and ppl posting for women saying "what she stands for, what she means, what she does"

It's all sexist to me and so is shrill in the tone and way it was used.

Women shouldn't have to put up with that kind of garbage, "virtual" or not.

As for you women defending these guys, please reconsider.

Jeabus Crisco! This is SL, women are KING here. Ever go shopping in SL as a man? If I ever was shrill in my life it was when I first shopped for male clothes in SL. And when I go to a club or something half the crowd is angry wanna-be lesbians with their guns cocked ready to shoot me at the slightest hint of me acting like a man (ie myself). And talk about sexist, read your own post "as for you women defending these guys". These guys? WTF? "Guys" are the bad guys? OMG sooooo sexist!
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01-18-2006 12:44
From: Eggy Lippmann
"There is no obvious constructive discussion going on in this thread"
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Eggy, we can only hope.
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Martin Magpie
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01-18-2006 12:46
From: Aimee Weber
I will attack real sexism whenever and wherever I see it. I will not support flimsy accusations of sexism to bolster somebody's short term debate needs. It's as humilating to my gender as crying ... it may help win the battle but it takes a terrible toll on the war.


Sorry I asked that you reconsider Aimee.
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Martin Magpie
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01-18-2006 12:48
From: Cristiano Midnight
Calling someone shrill, while not pleasant, is no different than calling them whiny/annoying. How is any of that sexist? If I call a woman annoying, am I being sexist? No. Don't hide behind gender, race, or anything else - it is about the person.


I disagree that it's only about the person here in the forums.
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Martin Magpie
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01-18-2006 12:49
From: Chris Wilde
when I go to a club or something half the crowd is angry wanna-be lesbians with their guns cocked ready to shoot me at the slightest hint of me acting like a man (ie myself). And talk about sexist, read your own post "as for you women defending these guys". These guys? WTF? "Guys" are the bad guys? OMG sooooo sexist!


:eek: I have zero comment it speaks for it's self.
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Cristiano Midnight
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01-18-2006 12:49
From: Martin Magpie
I disagree that it's only about the person here in the forums.


What I mean is it is about the person themself, not about their gender - which honestly none of us really know anyway. It is not a sexism issue, it is a personality issue.
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Chris Wilde
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01-18-2006 12:50
From: Martin Magpie
:eek: I have zero comment it speaks for it's self.

Yeah, because Im a guy, therefore already guilty in your eyes. But seriously it was more of a satire of the silly tangent and rationale used by *cough* people here.
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Aimee Weber
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01-18-2006 12:51
From: Martin Magpie
Sorry I asked that you reconsider Aimee.


Never apologize for asking! It's good to stay on the ball about these things!

But this certainly isn't a legitimate feminist battle to me. It's a set-up.
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01-18-2006 12:51
From: Enabran Templar
I've called some of Prok's writing shrill many times, though I'm not sure if I've done so in the forums, and Prok is a male, so I'm not sure what else we can give you.

When it suits you, he is. At any rate, I've made my point.

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Lordfly Digeridoo
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01-18-2006 12:53
Are these the same people that get up in arms over "female" nouns in spanish being denoted by "la" rather than "el"?

Sheesh.

Trying to get this doomed thread back on topic, I don't think WF really understood what LL was able to provide, and once they figured out that a) we're insane, b) LL is small potatoes compared to a world bank, and c) the client/server can't be hacked apart on a whim, they went elsewhere.
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Martin Magpie
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01-18-2006 12:53
I disagree. However I think a new thread should be started on the sexism issue in the forums.
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Enabran Templar
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01-18-2006 12:53
From: Cocoanut Koala
I've made my point.


You have. And it is delicious. :)
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Cocoanut Koala
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01-18-2006 12:54
From: Memir Quinn
You seemed to care when you repeatedly stated that:



Which is in turn directly refuted by;

http://forums.secondlife.com/showpo...2&postcount=378

You seem to think you've the only right to speak to women's issues? To chauvinism? To sexism? Think again. As a woman I find your frivolous and contemptuous use of supposed sexism as a tool for your forum grudge matches offensive and pathetic.

I can't get that link to work, Memir.

I never said I was the only one to have a right to an opinion about sexism. You said that.

I calls em like I sees em, and that I do have a right to do. As a woman I think you would probably be seeing it the same way if you had been on the receiving end of it.

coco
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Aimee Weber
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01-18-2006 12:55
From: Lordfly Digeridoo
Are these the same people that get up in arms over "female" nouns in spanish being denoted by "la" rather than "el"?

Sheesh.

Trying to get this doomed thread back on topic, I don't think WF really understood what LL was able to provide, and once they figured out that a) we're insane, b) LL is small potatoes compared to a world bank, and c) the client/server can't be hacked apart on a whim, they went elsewhere.


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