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MJ Hathor
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01-18-2006 13:31
I voted NO!!! I seriously don't believe these forums to be sexist at all! Its hard for them to be that way, when most the time you don't know if your talking to a male or female...right martin? or catherine? :confused:

MJ

Edit: This response was suppose to go here . :o
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Cocoanut Koala
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01-18-2006 13:31
From: Aimee Weber
You mean the panties thing? TOTALLY! Glad to have you in my corner!

Aimee, you need to speak to whoever wrote that hideously sexist article about you in the first place if you want to complain about the panties thing. If someone had written that about me, I would have.

Here's something interesting: I don't have time now to really pursue research of this word, but I did put phrases into Google:

1. "shrill man" 245 results

2. "shrill woman" 721 results

Interestly, on quick perusal of the first couple of pages, "shrill man" was actually returning a number of things such as, "shrill, man-hating shrew," etc. lol

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Siggy Romulus
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01-18-2006 13:33
I typed 'Cocoanut' into google:

"Results 1 - 10 of about 575,000 for cocoanut"

My god! It's not JUST the SL forums!
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Martin Magpie
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01-18-2006 13:34
From: MJ Hathor
I voted NO!!! I seriously don't believe these forums to be sexist at all! Its hard for them to be that way, when most the time you don't know if your talking to a male or female...right martin? or catherine? :confused:

MJ


Cute. :rolleyes:
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Enabran Templar
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01-18-2006 13:34
From: Cocoanut Koala
Interestly, on quick perusal of the first couple of pages, "shrill man" was actually returning a number of things such as, "shrill, man-hating shrew," etc.


Your argument is dead, Cocoanut. Five posts out of thousands isn't a history or even a pattern. Enough. I'm starting to feel embarassed for you.
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MJ Hathor
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01-18-2006 13:35
From: Cocoanut Koala

Here's something interesting: I don't have time now to really pursue research of this word, but I did put phrases into Google:


coco


shrill I don't see anything sexist about this word.
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01-18-2006 13:36
From: Enabran Templar
Your argument is dead, Cocoanut. Five posts out of thousands isn't a history or even a pattern. Enough. I'm starting to feel embarassed for you.

Don't you dare shut down my afternoon amusement!
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MJ Hathor
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01-18-2006 13:36
From: Martin Magpie
Cute. :rolleyes:


Thanks :rolleyes:
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Enabran Templar
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01-18-2006 13:37
From: Lecktor Hannibal
Don't you dare shut down my afternoon amusement!


My friend, the amusement is only beginning, but this thread is about dead. The next chortles will come from the sexism thread.
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prak Curie
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01-18-2006 13:53
From: Cristiano Midnight
You could take the word emotional as sexist too, or hysterical - it does not make the words, or their usage sexist.

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/hysterical
From: someone
Etymology: New Latin, from English hysteric, adjective, from Latin hystericus, from Greek hysterikos, from hystera womb; from the Greek notion that hysteria was peculiar to women and caused by disturbances of the uterus
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Cristiano Midnight
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01-18-2006 13:55


Hooray for etymology but is not the modern usage of the word at all. Ulrika tried to assert the same thing, while making ample use of the word herself. The word hysteria is quite commonly used as well - it is not a sexist word in its modern usage.
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Logan Bauer
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01-18-2006 13:58
I just hope no mass hysteria comes out of all of this, because then all of us guys would be turned into women. Shortly becoming Ruth after teleport is enough for me...
prak Curie
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01-18-2006 14:08
From: Cristiano Midnight
The word hysteria is quite commonly used as well - it is not a sexist word in its modern usage.

There are some words that have histories that amuse me. I have links that I would quote from if you mentioned Heroin or any of a few other words. I like to share.
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Jeska Linden
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01-18-2006 15:49
Ok, this thread has spiraled all over the place and landed clearly in the off-topic realm. I'm going to leave it open, but please return to the topic at hand.
Rickard Roentgen
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01-18-2006 15:51
So how bout them stagecoaches?
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Beryl Greenacre
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01-18-2006 16:05
I was loathe to bump this thread because I think it's basically thrashing a dead horse, but, since some other enterprising forum mavens have taken care of that already, I might as well add an update regarding my situation. On Monday, I received a phone call from Reuben Linden to verify my mailing address and let me know a check would be mailed out to me this week by LL as payment in according to my original agreement for usage of my content. Thank you, Reuben, for contacting me. Also, thank you, Moopf, for getting the ball rolling by contacting Catherine Linden, that seems to have done the trick.

This whole thing has been a disappointing situation. Let's face it, LL is too busy dealing with forums full of people arguing over semantics and whether or not one user can ruin land values for many with a devious method cloaked in the noble premise of promoting free speech to properly service a company like Wells Fargo (at least IMHO). When we start to see LL licensing other people to use and modify their own versions of the SL client, as Cory Linden stated this week is part of the eventual plan, SL will truly be a viable option for a corporate project like this.
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Rickard Roentgen
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01-18-2006 16:14
Don't hijack the thread Beryl :eek: !!!

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Salazar Jack
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01-18-2006 16:24
From: Beryl Greenacre
I was loathe to bump this thread because I think it's basically thrashing a dead horse, but, since some other enterprising forum mavens have taken care of that already, I might as well add an update regarding my situation. On Monday, I received a phone call from Reuben Linden to verify my mailing address and let me know a check would be mailed out to me this week by LL as payment in according to my original agreement for usage of my content. Thank you, Reuben, for contacting me. Also, thank you, Moopf, for getting the ball rolling by contacting Catherine Linden, that seems to have done the trick.

This whole thing has been a disappointing situation. Let's face it, LL is too busy dealing with forums full of people arguing over semantics and whether or not one user can ruin land values for many with a devious method cloaked in the noble premise of promoting free speech to properly service a company like Wells Fargo (at least IMHO). When we start to see LL licensing other people to use and modify their own versions of the SL client, as Cory Linden stated this week is part of the eventual plan, SL will truly be a viable option for a corporate project like this.


As it is now, a project stands a much better chance of succeeding here only if it can embrace and incorporate the current limitations and freedoms we have right now. And not be critical enough that it can withstand the system outages or grid disruptions. That's probably a short list. I look forward to the evolution of it all.
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Martin Magpie
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01-18-2006 16:26
From: Beryl Greenacre
I was loathe to bump this thread because I think it's basically thrashing a dead horse, but, since some other enterprising forum mavens have taken care of that already, I might as well add an update regarding my situation. On Monday, I received a phone call from Reuben Linden to verify my mailing address and let me know a check would be mailed out to me this week by LL as payment in according to my original agreement for usage of my content. Thank you, Reuben, for contacting me. Also, thank you, Moopf, for getting the ball rolling by contacting Catherine Linden, that seems to have done the trick.

This whole thing has been a disappointing situation. Let's face it, LL is too busy dealing with forums full of people arguing over semantics and whether or not one user can ruin land values for many with a devious method cloaked in the noble premise of promoting free speech to properly service a company like Wells Fargo (at least IMHO). When we start to see LL licensing other people to use and modify their own versions of the SL client, as Cory Linden stated this week is part of the eventual plan, SL will truly be a viable option for a corporate project like this.



Thats great news Beryl! I agree with you about the licensing of SL also. :) Glad it worked out for you. Yeah for LL too :)
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exactly, sort of.
01-18-2006 17:02
From: Salazar Jack
As it is now, a project stands a much better chance of succeeding here only if it can embrace and incorporate the current limitations and freedoms we have right now. And not be critical enough that it can withstand the system outages or grid disruptions. That's probably a short list. I look forward to the evolution of it all.


great point, Salazar. compare WF's involvement, a company wishing to bend the environment to their views of how it "should be done", then compare that to Avalon. who uses the environment to their advantage. instead of forcing themselves upon the "platform", they engage themselves within it.. allowing one to augment the other.

granted, certain evolutions of SL will no doubt increase it's potential in future endeavors. especially for long-standing companies that have to learn what SL is about and hire content providers.

we'll get there, but it sure would behoove these outside companies to get to know SL first.

hmm, maybe we'll see a new job title at RL companies soon? "Needed: Virtual World Liaison" ..or some such thing, but you get the idea. :cool:
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Salazar Jack
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01-18-2006 17:33
From: Cybin Monde
great point, Salazar. compare WF's involvement, a company wishing to bend the environment to their views of how it "should be done", then compare that to Avalon. who uses the environment to their advantage. instead of forcing themselves upon the "platform", they engage themselves within it.. allowing one to augment the other.

granted, certain evolutions of SL will no doubt increase it's potential in future endeavors. especially for long-standing companies that have to learn what SL is about and hire content providers.

we'll get there, but it sure would behoove these outside companies to get to know SL first.

hmm, maybe we'll see a new job title at RL companies soon? "Needed: Virtual World Liaison" ..or some such thing, but you get the idea. :cool:


Along with this, and I know it's been touched on before in other threads, the world interface of SL needs to get much much more user friendly. I don't doubt that part of the evolution will be a more streamlined and easy experience for casual users. Perhaps even customization of the experience that filters out much of the (for lack of a better phrase) geeky-tech multitude of options and procedures for interacting with this foreign virtual soil... yet still being able to have access to the depth of communication options available to us (sound, gestures, animations, etc.).
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Finn Jensen
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01-18-2006 22:23
Must say I find it a bit surprising that an american company use for transportation an Opel with Nazi symbols painted on the door. A swastika and a palm.
Bertha Horton
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01-19-2006 02:13
I was reading about the history of video games, when...

Surprise!

Wells Fargo was the first moneylender to Atari.

They were the only ones who could trust Nolan Bushnell, who (at the time) looked like a biker and whose company was rumored to be connected to organized crime because they were in coin-op.

Looks like things have come full circle and WF is now "the bad guy".
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01-19-2006 09:02
Sl is much nicer than "Activeworlds"! Went on it last night and was confronted by an Imigration Officer asking me to become a citizen. In SL it was my choice to become a paying member. Also SL is a lot nicer to use!

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Beryl Greenacre
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01-19-2006 10:21
From: Salazar Jack
As it is now, a project stands a much better chance of succeeding here only if it can embrace and incorporate the current limitations and freedoms we have right now. And not be critical enough that it can withstand the system outages or grid disruptions. That's probably a short list. I look forward to the evolution of it all.
Yes, this is a very good point, Salazar. LL's first priority right now is community building, enforcing rules, increasing membership, and servicing their direct clients (the SL residents/members). This is not a bad thing that they are too actively engaged in community work to give extensive attention to a corporate client; it's just a fact inherent within their current business model.

It's interesting to hear about businesses that manage to make SL work for them in its current incarnation. However, I suspect a lot of the stories remain somewhat hidden and top-secret because too much attention from the SL community can be a bad thing. I think that many of us, myself strongly included, have been uncertain how to react to corporate/business presences within a MMOG like SL, and we've not been sure it's really a good thing. But I've come to realize that for a place like SL to grow and sustain itself long-term, this sort of development is almost vital. I, too, look forward to the future of SL and what changes and business innovators/tions we will see in the coming months and years.
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