RC Questions

http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/An_Open_Letter_to_Linden_Lab





Just checked and I don't see the instructions on that page are you sure you pushed the "make it so" button? I don't trust this new fangled technology.

If people are behaving normally with this, your stats should be telling you that most people only go to one page, so they're unlikely to dig around to find the instructions the page itself doesn't actually mention anywhere that you can sign it. To someone who has the link only it looks like a static page.

you might like to consider putting a banner at the top of the homepage pointing people to it as well as putting a specific link in the navigation bar. (you know, something like "sign the open letter"

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TO SIGN UP AND EDIT ANY PAGES....

The e.mail address that you give when signing up WILL NOT be used for any purpose by SLapt.me, other than the wiki preferences that you set, neither will it be sold, lent out etc.

Goto the top of the page and click create an account for the SLapt.me wiki

Then go back to the page you wish to edit and click the EDIT Tab on that page and add your name at the bottom of the list for the An Open Letter to Linden Lab, copying the layout of the name above yours with the * and a space between yours and the name above, for example then click SAVE PAGE at the bottom of the text box and voila

I am working hard at getting the SLapt.me wiki on the search engines as an Independent reference source for SL and widely referenced across the internet as it grows.

Feel free to add any pertinent information to the pages. Its your wiki I have just facilitated it on our own servers here in Amsterdam. I must add a warning though that wiki's can become addictive

Heya all Tails here,

Just saying im totally against it mainly not for my reasons but for the masses of people who are against it which you seem to be oblivious to(i wont say everyone because there are some people for it, like the teen grid who dont actually see that it wont make a difference and they have it better over there than they will here, many of those grieving tools are sex related, i.e the sex particle spammers xD) but i do have a suggestion which could work well for us all.

My suggestion is to(if you do decide to go ahead with it) instead of making all of your paying customers(or most of) try to age verify on the so called "adult" grid how about you make it so the teens hafto make "teen" accounts which can let them only go to the places which you think are acceptable for them, this idea stops all of your paying customers from leaving and all of the teens from getting too distraught from what you want to 'protect' them from, i know i might seem like all the other complaining residents who you seemed to take no interest in but i would like to see something being done so my "favourite until this change" game still live on, feel free to IM me ingame any of you who wish to talk, this is my two and a half cents, thanks for listening!

<3 Tails Wirefly <3 proud maingrid resident(would like to keep it this way)

P.s: happy birthday SecondLife wewt!

Here is the front page at the top I will send a note to one of the other admins to emphasis the Open letter as I don't want to break the wiki lol

After the Baroque Cycle got a flat tire? After having Stephenson show off his tin ear in Cryptonomicon? No. No. No. No. No.

I've already read Riddley Walker and Feersum Endjinn and the Book of the New Sun. I have taysted the sult and the savor of air kind and sport of toasted language and roasted etymologies of future deviant mistaken descendants of English, I don't need to watch Stephenson stumble through the same territory.

I saw the front page and my thoughts are:

1. people aren't going to flip to the home page - they'll read the letter and then move on when they can't see that they can sign it

2. even on the front page the open letter is buried and for the type of people you want to have sign this they'll just go tl;dr. Having the slab of info below the fold doesn't help.

so an into para on the page saying if you want to support this then edit>etc etc

on the home page right at the top another para saying something like "view and sign to support"

and the link in the navigation bar.

all of these should improve the view to sign ratio

When these changes were first announced by LL, I was opposed to them. First, the reasons given for the changes did not seem entirely plausible. Second, there seemed much simpler and less draconian means by which to achieve the goals set.

However, if it is the case that external regulatory forces in the US are being brought to bear upon LL, I have sympathy with their position. I only wish that we had been told this at the outset and saved the marketing spin.

There are 2 aspects of the proposals as presently formulated which cause me unease:
1) I do not see how in the long term sex beds and sexual items and sexual activities can continue to exist and be conducted "in private" on mature land. I do not see that the concept of "private residence" has any application in SL.
2) It seems manifestly unfair that those who perceive it to be in their interest to move from mature mainland to the new adult mainland should not be permitted a free move. Given that the "rules" are being altered so radically, I do not see that they should have to justify themselves to LL.

Book of the new sun and it's predecessors *rocked*. Gene Wolfe is the real deal. I like him about as much as David Brin.

^V^

...and I should have changed that jack to jp/kend. I'm just going by what they say now.. after all Cyn is jack and blondin boss and kend is the lawyer (I have no idea who this jp person is) so they should know..

And finally, by creating this PG designation, we - we pave the way to other potential use cases, other ways to um y’know set educators or other y’know groupings of PG activity apart, whether y’know that means in search, or conceptually, or some other way. We don’t know exactly where that’s going to head, but we think it’s a good idea to begin that discussion where we see PG clean experience that may have y’know special uses in Second Life and - and er y’know, of particular interest to some people.

Have you read "The Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories and Other Stories"?

Have you read "The Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories and Other Stories"?

Why are adult parcels being removed from search after 60 days? It's one of the main ways people look for businesses.

I think he means that they'll be removed from non-adult search 60 days after 1.23 goes gold.

it seems that the places tab isn't going to have an adult tick box though. which means that no one can select to search.

JP Linden:

"And finally, by creating this PG designation, we - we pave the way to other potential use cases, other ways to um y’know set educators or other y’know groupings of PG activity apart, whether y’know that means in search, or conceptually, or some other way. We don’t know exactly where that’s going to head, but we think it’s a good idea to begin that discussion where we see PG clean experience that may have y’know special uses in Second Life and - and er y’know, of particular interest to some people."

After the Baroque Cycle got a flat tire? After having Stephenson show off his tin ear in Cryptonomicon? No. No. No. No. No..

it seems that the places tab isn't going to have an adult tick box though. which means that no one can select to search.

Ooooh.

The Search > Places tab now includes checkboxes to indicate whether you want to include [X] PG content, [X] Mature content, [X] Adult content in your search. The panel for your search result details will also indicate whether the Place's Location is on a region which is (PG), (Mature) or (Adult).

* The ability to choose "Adult" as a category of Places to search for will disappear after the 60-day transition period. Any places still categoried as "Adult" at that time will then be migrated by Linden Lab to the "Other" category.

except there's no "other" checkbox...

It's a bit garbled really and I can't quite get my head around it but until we have clarification the evidence appears to be that after the 60 days no more adult places search

I asked Blondin about this before he closed the last thread but despite him saying he didn't think it was quite right, he never got back to me

* The ability to choose "Adult" as a category of Places to search for will disappear after the 60-day transition period. Any places still categoried as "Adult" at that time will then be migrated by Linden Lab to the "Other" category.

except there's no "other" checkbox...

I wouldn't underestimate the power of an independent site and not getting enough in world exposure especially if that site has an altruistic approach to the problems we are seeing here and offers a viable alternative to what LL currently offers while not being profit driven, more a case of a cost covering exercise, (because it's core business is elsewhere and can subsidize it while it grows for as long as is needed) while putting the needs of its users first and foremost and recognizing that the customer is king, because without them the business is dead in the water. Also it knows that by letting the customers help shape it and initiating changes that the customers request because it sees that the customers want something they can help shape and help grow, while the owners recognize that organic growth is far better than forcing their standards on the customers.

I think when that opportunity presents itself people will flock to it in droves as they will feel that they own a stake in it and it will spread virally without problem I feel