RC Questions

Because he seems to be ignoring us on the forums and cherrypicking the questions at his OH. I have asked questions near the start of the OH, then repeated them when I heard him answering questions after mine.

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It has been obvious to many of us for some time now that the adult content changes are most likely due to outside pressure. The imminent FTC report (with language that smells like Kirk is involved) only makes our suspicions stronger.

There are only two possibilities. Simple question, which one is right?

(a) This is coming from the outside. This makes MUCH more sense as it looks like something someone did by insisting on an unworkable solution rather than starting with a premise and knowledge of what would and would not work. If this answer is the correct one, can you please explain why you have insisted on covering for them?

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(b) This is coming from the inside. Which means LL is *much* more incompetent than we give them credit for. Even a cursory look at this proposal by anyone slightly familiar with Second Life can see the huge flaws in this.

A nice simple binary question, (a) or (b) (or also (c) if can you come up with a third answer). Please do not ignore the sub-question if it is (a) though. If You keep stating it is (b), but what does that say to the potential customers you want to woo?

*HUGS* & Bright Blessings,
Kara

"With the first link, a chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
-- Picard, ST:TNG, quoting a fictional judge, "The Drumhead"

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I just LOVE the appropriateness of the quote my sig line picked!

Anyway, back to the point. Being able to hover over a green dot three hundred feet away and see who it is is no more a privacy violation than being able to look down a crowded mall and recognize someone you know from hundreds of cues that don't exist in second life.

I said : Seriously, hands up if you'd be prepared to be a signatory to this (Kira's open letter)

Excellent, that's a great start! Hopefully, many more will feel the same way, and if Kira doesn't see this here, time differences being what they are, I'll IM her inworld.

It may only be a small drop in the ocean of protest, but well-expressed argument and a genuine offer to help has to be worth something.

You can add my name too and about my friends I am sure too. So, if Kira's letter goes to LL and if it will be kind of a petition/open letter, we will be happy to join the list of signatories.

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What Linden Labs is doing is a *show* .................

There is no reason to include this feature. Except LL really doesn't like the concept of any kind of personal privacy or space. Even now I'm surprised that they ever removed mapping because it flies in the face of their stupid, crap, bullshit beliefs and I'm sorry if I don't believe in making life easier for the pond scum.

On the Tits -

Question : - One resident (Moseley Sperber, I believe) sells songbird. However, a majority of his birds happen to be "great tit, "marsh tit," etc. These are filtered under the list as sexual.

Speaker :- so let me say a word about this because I actually saw this on the jira and it got me to thinking and I actually went to those parcels and I saw the signage and I saw the birds, it;s a great space and he's basically selling birds and garden stuff but in the keywords that he was using or she (stutter) (um) the word tits or tit was not in there, so if the key word the search tags aren't in there and I would guess if your selling gardening stuff and birds your probably not gonna draw a lot of people searching for tits (um) it's not gonna it's not gonna be classified as adult.

On Land Purchase

Next Question from Stroker ; We would like to know if it is necessary to mark a whole private SIM as adult, or if it will be possible to mark only parcels.

Answer - Right now it's not possible to mark only parcels - is that that right Cyn?

Cyn: thats correct

Follow up from Stroker

It seems there will be a definitive impact on the Mainland parcels being relocated to Ursula. 1. Was there a cutoff date for those being relocated (many are buying parcels currently hoping to be moved) Also, since the land sales are already depressed, will there be any incentive for land buyers to purchase these deserted parcels. Do you forsee any detremental economic impact on the land market.

Cyn - (um) let's see

(aaaaah) I guess I'm not sure if I mind if somebody buys a parcel on the mainland and then gets moved to Ursula (mmmmm) (stutter) you know I don't, I don't foresee having a cut off date right now (em) but I shouldn't probably speak to details on that right now because I know that the (mmmm) harmony and the land team are working very hard on that plan and when that gets public you'll know exactly what they've decided and I don't have my finger on that right this second (mmmm stutters em mmm) + (back ground chatter) I think that people in the course of their business that buy parcels on the mainland and then sell adult content will need move to the new continent (mmmmm stutter) and as far as land reclamation goes that's actually a very strong market and we're seeing quite a bit of good movement there, reclaiming parcels, and connecting them hopefully to (mmm) other areas that are also you know have been abandoned or left in other ways - we get a lot of good results offering them to neighbors sometimes if their interested in those areas and (em) on the auction site, it actually, I don't think it's going to have as significant impact in that way. So (um) I know that Jack and the land team have done a very thorough analysis of how they expect that will probably work, and they are very comfortable - so I think we're probably fine.....

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Can anyone make sense of any of that ???? If you can please share

^L^

With the accompanying irony that the villian in this story is named Kirk.

With the accompanying irony that the villian in this story is named Kirk.

That's hard-coded. If you're not on adult land you won't be able to PUT a proscribed word in search or classifieds.

That is a problem they need a better solution to.

You misspelled "paid special-interest lobbyists" there. Hope that helps.

If this answer is the correct one, can you please explain why you have insisted on covering for them?

I don't think they see that as a "problem". I think that is precisely what LL intends.

That's hard-coded. If you're not on adult land you won't be able to PUT a proscribed word in search or classifieds.

Thanks Wynochee - perhaps we could add the names on a slapt page? At this stage, I don't have a clue how to do that, but I guess it's about time I learned!

It's the wrong time of day for me to be inworld, but I'll make a point of contacting Kira as soon as possible to see whether she's willing for us to use her letter, then we can get this petition under way! Maybe she'll have seen these postings by the time I wake up

We're in the wrong damn universe again, Lieutenant!

So like all of you I get to choose what I believe-making the government the big bad bogeyman isn't one of those things.

I said : Seriously, hands up if you'd be prepared to be a signatory to this (Kira's open letter)

Excellent, that's a great start! Hopefully, many more will feel the same way, and if Kira doesn't see this here, time differences being what they are, I'll IM her inworld.

It may only be a small drop in the ocean of protest, but well-expressed argument and a genuine offer to help has to be worth something.

Not correct, at least not correct in RC0 that I am using. I have added adult words on mature land description.

What really bothers me about the adult changes is not just the negative impact I believe they will have on the traffic & revenue from my animated furniture business, but the fact that I will no longer be able to sell ALL of my products from one shop!!
I currently own a half sim, and have 2 sections to my business.... on the ground level I sell houses, this area consists of 2 beautiful little islands surrounded by water.... & higher up in the sky I have a floating platform where I sell furniture, some of which contain adult sex animations.

I would like to continue with both sides of my business, but cannot see how this can be done without me being forced to buy land on the AO region AND keep the land I own already.
This will mean a higher tier and loss of the precious landmarks that have taken so long to establish for the furniture shop.
If I move the house business to the AO region, it is no longer accessible to everybody, so I lose customers.... but if I keep it where it is I have to pay higher tier because of the addition of the AO land.
Given the choice, I would rather keep the animated furniture where it is already and have it flagged as an adult parcel, and receive some sort of compensation from the Lindens for my lost revenue from the houses (or even some free land and tier).

Which is the reason Carl Metropolitan and others have rabidly tried to get them to "officialize" the clarifications and promises various Lindens have been given. There is, for apparently very good reason, a fear that the texts we've seen so far in for example the infamous knowledge base 6010 is how it'll actually be enforced, despite promises that it's "not the final version" and "we'll not change anything about the current PG definitions".

Somebody wrote those texts, so somebody must mean that's how things should be, and apparently, said "somebody" have no clue (or refuse to acknowledge) that any Linden have said anything else.

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Let them eat cake. This is all about choice and we have several flavors

How is that working for search? Does the land not come up at all for a mature search, or only the non-adult words, or the whole description?