Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

They haven't sunk any bloody resources into it at all. If they were going to actually put some effort into dealing with the real problem they'd implement SVC-205 and have done with the whole question of what's private by actually giving us a way to BE private.

You're also charmingly naive about the capabilities of encryption. One security researcher I met at a convention put it this way: when you solve a security problem with encryption, you've now got *two* security problems to solve.

This is not technically possible without completely rewriting SL from scratch.

Me too. Too bad I'll have to be at work.

Dam thats bad news, take a sicky lol

not fair!! why didn't I get an invite??? *sniff..*

Cos some of us are special and different LMAO

Then I think the question of why LL won't implement your jira suggestions should also be on the list of questions for the meeting.

Everyone wins with those and it would certainly be the best shiny that they could deliver to the seething masses.

My email is in my first life tab on my profile Argent send me the question and i will ask it or email JP with the question and i will re ask at the meeting

I second Lord - chuck a sickie LOL! Having both of you there would be quite a presence, from what I've read from the pair of you in the forums.

People who study economics, read history, quote Shakespeare and write poetry don't get invited to engineering conferences.

I just think they stick all the names in a virtual hat and pull them out

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So far so good. But you missed maybe the point, that our "beloved" Linden Lab started to whine and mongering fear and blabla at the blog and here with a grumpy attitute and they are scared by whatever.

They may call that "business-plan", but that meets not the criterias of our business plans, unfortunately, hahahaha, - and they may call that virtual culture-politic, to "make the SL-experience better" but it is just camouflaged fascism. Or if one likes the term not, then it is Maoism, Stalinism or any other sort totalitarism, because they do that not in a non-reactionary and not in a non-repressive way, they do that brutal and with no single intelligent idea and with no socially acceptable effort.

These sort of people are ever the biggest whiners and complainers and fear-owners of the world. They are in fear by their own shadows, hahahaha, because: they live in their real lifes literaly and with any available evidence exact in the middle of all what they like to discriminate and ban here. Because they live and work and have their headquarter in San Francisco. Must I say more?

More adult than San Francísco is not possible. So, as long they have no problem to be there day by day and night by night, they have to shut up and to hold their noses away from our business.

They have the Pampers full and not we. We started no panic. We went not prudish. And we became not intolerant.

Just to hold the dimensions in balance, because: We are not shocked by the comical scenes on the screen. The Lindens are shocked, suddenly, after 6 years freedom. and good neighborship.This said, while waiting on their whining-tool, B.

Edit add: and we will not forget who pays them. They live literaly from our pockets, They eat, drink, drive and dress from our money - the money-pipeline goes in only one direction. It is not so that they would pay us.

Customers want service, service, service and if I havn't mentioned it so far: service and service again - not upper-cuts. If they like to hit sandbags, they can do that in their free time at home, but not in direction of their customers.

There are two key questions that have not been sufficiently answered:
1) Why are they doing this? Is there some specific reason other than LL going "but think of the chilun" completely on their own initiative or is another factor at play here? If the former, it is not well thought out and reflects poorly on them. If the latter, what/who is driving this?

2) What, specifically, will be forced to move .... ie, what is their current thinking of 'adult' as Blondin and Blue gave two completely different answers.

Those two questions alone, honestly answered, will answer a lot of things. Basically, nail them down to specifics, not canned PR responses.

I can assure you that i certainly will be and have added them to my list

Thanks, just IMed them to you too as I had edited the questions a little and did not know if you saw the mods. So far we are getting either no answers or nonsensical PR replies to the really important questions. If they answer those (and be specific about their answers) a lot of other questions could either be tuned or changed in priority, as well as possibly sparking un-thought-of questions.

It will be fascinating to see their replies.

Thanks for the IM have replied and yes i totally agree with you

I've never known why that it, we certainly liven up dull meetings.

However since I've been in IT since well before most of these kids left school and could still probably mitigate their database architecture failures better than they appear to and have spent far too long trying to help businesses risk manage their almost uncontrollable IT cowboys (sorry, teams) you think I'd be in with some kind of chance.

That's life I suppose.

I suspect the real reason is I'm a smidge too bolshie and they know I don't rate them as a company. Afraid of being asked too many hard questions lol

The problem with the brown bags is they use both voice and chat - and voice can be patchy at best, there's never enough time and they're not really designed for anything more than a bit of pr.

There are better ways to structure these to make them more effective but that would involve a bit of effort and professionalism.

(see, told you I didn't rate them.. lol)

Good luck with that.

Blondin did say they're supposed to have more concrete definitions of what is considered adult early this week.

As for why they're doing it, you don't seriously expect anything more than to provide users with a more predictable and controlled experience, do you? I doubt they're going to break down and say "Mo Money!" or "The brain slugs told us to do it!".

Actually, I do IF asked the right way.

Saying "2 to 4% affected" "think of the children" and "more predictable experience" are just PR speak from someone low level who can not give you details.

They can answer it only one of three ways if you hold their feet to the fire and ask for specifics:

1) ignore the question or refuse to give specifics ... that speaks volumes, they are hiding something
2) say it was their idea ... ask why they did not do more analysis of the issues like the rest of the IT world
3) say it was some other factor ... if so, what/who would tell us how to proceed

In all of the questions we need to ask if that is their *official* position and if that is what they honestly believe. Why I added that to my question on the earlier thread asking if there were kids on the main grid.

What's left is the equivalent of Teen grid where the only things you can buy or sell are teen products, and the only avatars allowed are either bots or 2-headed 5-legged unverified weirdos in the PG land.

I am confused about how having PIU in your profile proves that you are 18+.
This weekend a friend of mine in RL signed up for SL. He used a visa gift card that his Grandmother sent him for his birthday to buy a premium account. The gift card requires a person to fill in the blanks with any name address and age. Now he is in SL with a PIU. How does this stop some 10 year old kid from using a Visa gift card that they got as a gift from entering places with Adult Content? This makes no sense at all.

Has LL ever thought about simply putting a disclaimer:

* SL is for entertainment purpose only
* You are a consenting adult
* Play at your own risk

instead of putting yourself and everyone through this painful process of dislocating, restricting movement and compromising privacy?

It doesn't take a rocket scientist (or a lawyer) to know this is the standard disclaimer of any liability for any entertainment events.

It doesn't. And when the Aristotle scheme was introduced 2 years or so ago, and we asked about CC verification that is the answer LL gave us as to why it wasn't sufficient. We've been asking what has changed but no answers have been forthcoming.

LL doesn't see SL as an entertainment only service.

Payment info doesn't prove age at all, that is true. But what it DOES do is link the account to something at least vaguely resembling a verifiable identity. That visa gift card had your friend's name attached to it, presumably. And it had information atached to it for who bought it, and where. It might take some sleuth work on LL's part to track that down, but it is at least a start. All of this is very weak as identifying methods go, but is far stronger, in most cases, than a mere web-based form where you can literally enter "Bogus" in all the text fields and have it accepted.