Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

It was a serious conter, dressed as parody, to the Lindens attitute to arbitrarily judge things. If they have the chutzpa to point on -maybe- naked adult avatars, then I have the chutzpa to point on their mole avatars coming over as offensive for reasons. They started that game to discriminate whatever and this was a reply. Motto: zero tolerance for the intolerants!

Hey, it's my birthday today. I shouldn't have to buy.

Hey, it's my birthday today. I shouldn't have to buy.

Swipe it out of Blondin's brown bag. Happy birthday!

Am I going mad or does this thread keep losing posts?

Hey, it's my birthday today. I shouldn't have to buy.

/me drags out the champagne I've had chilling waiting for the perfect excuse..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgqD826HGuI

now it's just finding some clean glasses..

One piece of information that I came across recently was another kid avi ban scare. I dont know what is LLs stance on child avis, but I would like to know I dont have to worry about having my account banned simply because I want to be a kid avi.

And kid avis are a minority... I heard that about 30 kid avis were banned, and some of them was merely on the concept of young boys being anatomically correct. Sure some may find that kind of thing offensive, but That is entirely up to them.

I want to be able to come onto SL as a kid, and not worry about being banned, simply because of LL's definition of AgePlay. Because the kids sexing is technically not the appropriate term for ageplay. Its politically incorrect. But I digress... Banning kid avis just because they are kid avis would go against the UN's charter of Human Rights, And if I found out I cant access my account simply because I want to be a kid... Im going to be loud about it.

I want Linden Labs to tell me and the Child Avis of Second Life that we don't have to be scared of being banned. Because if LL wants to make SL more family oriented, why would they ban the kid avis, and not the sex clubs? I know a lot of people are probably gonna flame me for that last comment, and honestly if they are moving the sex and fetish places to one area, and not let the child avis on... what kind of message is going across?

One piece of information that I came across recently was another kid avi ban scare. I dont know what is LLs stance on child avis, but I would like to know I dont have to worry about having my account banned simply because I want to be a kid avi.

And kid avis are a minority... I heard that about 30 kid avis were banned, and some of them was merely on the concept of young boys being anatomically correct. Sure some may find that kind of thing offensive, but That is entirely up to them.

I want to be able to come onto SL as a kid, and not worry about being banned, simply because of LL's definition of AgePlay. Because the kids sexing is technically not the appropriate term for ageplay. Its politically incorrect. But I digress... Banning kid avis just because they are kid avis would go against the UN's charter of Human Rights, And if I found out I cant access my account simply because I want to be a kid... Im going to be loud about it.

I want Linden Labs to tell me and the Child Avis of Second Life that we don't have to be scared of being banned. Because if LL wants to make SL more family oriented, why would they ban the kid avis, and not the sex clubs? I know a lot of people are probably gonna flame me for that last comment, and honestly if they are moving the sex and fetish places to one area, and not let the child avis on... what kind of message is going across?

Not true. Everything you created in SL becomes LL's property.

Not true. That is exactly what encryption key does to protect your creation. If the key is well-designed, it is not a generic key, but a specific key that is tied to the specific user who purchased the product.

Yes, it is true, if you can see it, you can copy it. BUT you cannot use it

Try copy someone's MP4 song from Apple iTunes store, and play it on your iPod if you are not an authorized user of the original purchaser who owns the private key, good luck

Me too - I don't even begin to understand this stuff, yet I always read every word because I'm so impressed (and probably in the hope that some of it will sink in by osmosis!).

No, it absolutely doesn't. ALL LL gets is a non-exclusive license to use your creation in the Second Life service, which is how they get the rights to, as you put it, "display it on your screen". You retain ownership and all other rights, including all rights to use the content in OTHER services. This IS significantly different from the average MMO, and is a significant factor in WHY Second Life is as successful as it is.

It doesn't matter. For the user to "display it on your screen" they have to be able to decrypt it, and once decrypted they can save it. That's the same hole that lets you bypass the "Fairplay" restriction in iTunes despite the music being encrypted with your own "specific key that is tied to the specific user who purchased the product".

Please don't try to teach me about how public keys work. I was playing with public key encryption at the University of Sydney in 1978.
If you can see it, you can use it.

I do so routinely, by capturing the output of iTunes with Audio Hijack Pro. The audio hole can not be closed, even in theory. The same is true of the animation hole, the texture hole, the gesture hole, the prim hole... if you can see it on your screen, you have already decrypted it and you can read it out of memory.

There is not even a theoretical way to prevent this short of dedicated hardware, CPU and memory in epoxy, a tampering detection system that destroys the system if you attempt to hack it, and so on. To get from the current Open Source client and Opensim servers to that... there's basically no way. You'd have to start from scratch.

Basically, #amazonfail is the name for a brewing Internet shitstorm that started some time on Easter Sunday regarding Amazon.com's sudden decision to blacklist any books with LGBT(QQI) content from appearing in best-seller lists or search results. The blacklist also apparently extends to books with feminist themes, books about dealing with rape, etc. Initial complaints to Amazon resulted in the following stock response, which just angered people more:

In consideration of our entire customer base, we exclude "adult" material from appearing in some searches and best seller lists. Since these lists are generated using sales ranks, adult materials must also be excluded from that feature.

"GAY CONTENT IS ADULT??!! RAPE SURVIVOR CONTENT IS ADULT?!!?? HOW DARE YOU AMAZON RARARGH INTERNET RAGE!" responded the masses, freely pointing out the continuing availability of straight porn and sex toys in Amazon search results (or dog-fighting books or trashy romance novels or Mein Kampf or anything else that would be found "objectionable" by any reasonable standards). Clearly a double standard was at play.

Now, let's just put ourselves in Amazon's shoes. Keep in mind that Amazon is a smug, fairly liberal company headquartered in fucking Seattle of all places and, last I checked, Jeff Bezos is not exactly a Christian fundamentalist. Why on earth would they suddenly censor only a specific group of content that deals with a marginalized and politically active community? Why would this policy change not take the form of a specific policy, but rather of very discriminately flagging only certain titles as "adult" content? Why would this happen over a weekend?

It's obvious Amazon has some sort of automatic mechanism that marks a book as "adult" after too many people have complained about it. It's also obvious that there aren't too many people using this feature, as indicated by the easy availability (and search ranking) of pornography and sex toys and other seemingly "objectionable" materials, otherwise almost all of those items would have been flagged by this point. So somebody is going around and very deliberately flagging only LGBT(QQI)/feminist/survivor content on Amazon until it is unranked and becomes much more difficult to find. To the outside world, this looks like deliberate censorship on the part of Amazon, since Amazon operates the web application in question. To me, this looks like one of two things:

1. Some "Family"-type organization astroturfing Amazon in an attempt to rid the world of EVIL PRO-HOMOSEXUAL FILTH!!
2. Bantown

{snipped for LJ-specific history of marginal interest to those in this forum, despite its relevance}

That, my friends, is pure Bantown. What is Bantown? Some things Bantown is not:

* A trolling organization
* A group of people (at least since 2007)
* An IRC channel

Bantown is a tactic for inciting meta-lulz on multiple levels through the alignment of third-parties against each other. Bantown is like the plot of most James Bond movies, wherein some nefarious evildoer brings the US and the Soviets close to war. Bantown is a trolling technique of the highest order, which usually pits communities against each other, or communities against companies, or organizations against companies, or companies against organizations... Lest I sound too starry-eyed, let me list a few successful Bantown trolls:

* Nipplegate
* Toorcon Firefox shitstorm. Here, google it.
* LOLJ. Here, google it.
* Strikethrough

Of these, the Firefox shitstorm, Nipplegate, and Strikethrough stand out. Friends, #amazonfail is simply more of the same. I don't mean to imply that any of the same people are involved, but rather that the same tactic is involved, and it is working devilishly. Cleverly as well, this troll was perpetrated on a weekend AND a holiday, when Amazon's customer service would be operating on a skeleton crew and most of those who would be able to fix the problem would be at home and possibly unavailable or on vacation. Also, like Nipplegate and Strikethrough, this troll pits a marginalized and activist community against a big company, with the Internet and all its various discussion media (in this case, blogs and Twitter) as the facilitator.

Ok, put it in plain English.<snip>

I have been in world longer than 30 minutes.. is there some reason I cannot get a simple answer that would take any of you 30 seconds? Any of you could have simply answered the question rather than continually telling me off, yet I am accused of trolling?

You lucky <censored!>!!! Maybe I should be less of a frothing lunatic here if I want to get invited to these parties..

If you proxy this question for me and post the answer here, I'll send you a sheep ring:

I have a adult place on the mainland. It's not Dolcet but is blatently a sex place. I've got 2-3 neighbors that will probably want to move with me. Our lands total a bit over a 1/2 sim and are split between a (larger) number of groups and parcels.

If I'm forced to move, I'd like to request a full sim (preferably with some water) so we can rebuild our lands all at once. Once the rebuild is done and we settle on the new parcels, I'd like to sell the unused areas to retail stores. I would, of course, pay the full-mainland-region tier while I'm using over a 1/2 region of land.

Can I do this?

I have to laugh. We are talking about the same things. I know you want to be right regardless, so what's the point?

Not true. Everything you created in SL becomes LL's property. You already released your rights to them. If you don't release your rights to LL, LL would not have any permission to display them on the screen. They have to own your rights before it is technically or legally to reproduce anything you created in SL. Because they own your IP rights, they can do whatever they want with it.

Notwithstanding the foregoing, you understand and agree that by submitting your Content to any area of the service, you automatically grant (and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant) to Linden Lab: (a) a royalty-free, worldwide, fully paid-up, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive right and license to (i) use, reproduce and distribute your Content within the Service as permitted by you through your interactions on the Service

provided that in the event that your Content appears publicly in material under the control of Linden Lab, and you provide written notice to Linden Lab of your desire to discontinue the distribution of such Content in such material (with sufficient specificity to allow Linden Lab, in its sole discretion, to identify the relevant Content and materials), Linden Lab will make commercially reasonable efforts to cease its distribution of such Content following the receipt of such notice

This is almost universally true in any internet forum, BB, YouTube, myspace, facebook, your blog, your email, your picture, practically anything you do on someone else's server. You release the IP rights to them, if not, they can never display it on the web for you legally.

You may remove your User Content from the Site at any time. If you choose to remove your User Content, the license granted above will automatically expire, however you acknowledge that the Company may retain archived copies of your User Content.

Not true. That is exactly what encryption key does to protect your creation. If the key is well-designed, it is not a generic key, but a specific key that is tied to the specific user who purchased the product. That is, only and only the purchasing user can decrypt it; the same key will not work with other users. That is exactly how Apple encrypted their MP4 music. Their decoding key is tied to your username, that is why only you who paid for it can play the music. No one else can play it even if someone download/copy the same MP4 song to their iPod.(

The encryption in all internet including all internet banking and the credit card purchase on the web uses this public-key/private-key pair to work. That is how your web browser can encrypt your money transaction for you with a public key, yet IE, or FireFox or nobody in the world can decrypt or eavesdrop on you even with full knowledge of the public key unless they have the private key.

Try copy someone's MP4 song from Apple iTunes store, and play it on your iPod if you are not an authorized user of the original purchaser who owns the private key, good luck

You do not need to relinquish your IP or Copyright ownership in order to allow an internet service to display the content for you, in the same way an e-book publisher does not give Amazon their IP in order for Amazon to sell that e-book. What you can give is that service provider a license to make your content available on that service. If you check the TOS of the various places you mention you will note a similar TOS stating that you grant a license for the contents use *within that service". For example the Facebook TOS state that the license is granted only "in connection with the Facebook Service or the promotion thereof".

Many of the services you quote above actually allow you to revoke that license - i.e. that deleting content revokes that services right to use that content. Indeed the recent facebook controversy ( http://www.siliconvalleyiplicensinglaw.com/blog/facebook-licensing-controversy-prompts-public-to-take-closer-look-at-social-networking-site-terms-and-conditions/ ) was because facebook removed the following clause from its TOS

c. By posting any Content to the public areas of the Website, you hereby grant to BDSM-Life the non-exclusive, fully paid, worldwide license to use, publicly perform and display such Content on the Website. This license will terminate at the time you remove such Content from the Website.

The gatekeeper for enforcing this permission is the encryption code embedded in your music itself, so Apple doesn't have to be around to enforce it. If Apple goes out of business tomorrow, you still have your music to play in your iPod.

I have to laugh. We are talking about the same things. I know you want to be right regardless, so what's the point?

Your fantasy encryption system will have the same problem, and it will be just as ineffective at actually protecting content as CSS, Fairplay, Plays for Sure, and every other DRM scheme ever invented.

4. that 9 day thing for small parcels it's managable, but I've spent longer than that setting up a 1024 to my liking so for full sims it's absurd.

6) How will people end up on the land swap list? Will it be voluntary or will they be selected by LL
ANSWER: People will be able to request a land swap and we will review to make sure that their parcel meets the criteria of being on the mainland and containing adult content, and that they would be impacted by the changes.

7) How much time will we be given to select and move everything over before dual tier kicks back in or will it be that once the swap is done the legacy mainland reverts to LL and we're given a certain amount of time to remove our items?
ANSWER: Linden will assign parcels and the resident will have 9 days, over a two weekend period, to go and 'buy' the new land. At the end of the 9 days, we will reclaim their mainland parcel. Again, there will be no dual tier.

Where is this 9 day thing mentioned? For any sizable build or a mall with renters you really need at least a month.

I've also been invited to the brown bag thing - although it isn't the most convenient time, but I'll try to make it if I can.

Matthew