Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

lol I've already got a shop like that.. I'm so glad there's no dust in sl otherwise I'd never be able to get into it



This is dedicated to Lord S and all those going to the brown bag tomorrow... You have the forces of good on your side but remember, they'll behave like rats when you get them cornered..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ9e3Dy7obA?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ9e3Dy7obA

When you're confronted by a security problem, and you go "I know, I'll use encryption", now you have two problems. The music industry learned that one and it only took them five years to accept it: "OK, we didn't believe him, but Steve Jobs was right back in 2003...".

What does it mean to "protect inventory IP with encryption"? What kind of IP are you trying to protect, who are you trying to protect it from, and what information are you letting them get hold of. Most of the time when people talk about "protecting IP with encryption" they mean "we're going to encrypt this data, and we're going to hide the keys in a program, and we're going to give the program and the keys to the people we're trying to protect it from, and they're NEVER gonna figure it out... ha ha ha...". And of course that trick never works.

Ok, add that "SL is for entertainment and educational purpose only."

True that there are educational sims in SL that are teaching and modeling art that will have to be relocated to the Adult continent too.

May also add that "SL Is for entertainment, educational and business purpose only."

That will cover IBM's employees who want to entertain themselves with a surprise party for their boss at their annual business meeting with a birthday cake pop opens with a stripper, just like RL. Very realistic

so where are our 8 responses??

The IP protection that Open Sim is trying to figure out is to provide some form of protection for the creators of prim-objects and scripts, i.e., COPY, MOD and TRANSFER permission right protection.

Right now, LL is the sole arbitrator (or the keeper) of the IP rights for the users, which allows you to decide whether to give COPY, MOD or TRANSF rights to the next owner of your products.

As of now, in Open Sim, everything is FULL PERM, which means there is no IP protection of any of the products you created. Because there is no central authority in Open Sim as in LL, no one is the gatekeeper to protect your creation. It is a non-issue in SL, because LL is the gatekeeper for your IP rights, and you trusted LL to protect your IP rights with their COPY/MOD/TRANSF permission system.

Technically, if LL is sold to someone, and the new owner decides to change the IP scheme, all your products can be released to the public as FULL PERM, thus you could lose your IP rights entirely. That is why, your IP rights are entirely on the hands of LL as the gatekeeper.

That is also why when you teleport to the Open Grid, none of your inventory is transferable, except for the FULL PERM products, because LL enforces the IP protection of the creator, and would not leak out anything that you don't have full permission to the outside world. If LL did not do that, then everything people created in SL will become freebies in the free world.

But, if all your creation of objects/scripts were encrypted, then you are the sole arbitrator of who you allow them to have COPY/MOD/TRANSF rights rather than letting LL do it for you.

Using encryption is the way to do it in Open Sim, in that when you sell your airplane to someone, for instance, you give them the key to unlock the COPY/MOD/TRANSF perm rather than letting LL to unlock it for you. That is the IP protection scheme that will work so much better in SL or in OS without any central authority as the guardian of IP rights for you. You are basically trusting LL to do that for you currently, and LL is so far, a trustworthy player to guard that IP right for you.

So it really does not share any IP protection problems that the electronic world is confronting in music IP or video IP protection scheme that you are talking about.

Not legally, they don't have the right to release your IP to anyone outside the SL system. They could keep the SL system going, and abandon the permissions system within SL, but they still couldn't release it to other grids.
Not legally. Nobody but the creator has the legal right to release anything outside the SL service. And if someone is using the limitations in the technical implementation of the SL protocols to download and re-upload content illegally to other grids, there's no reason they can't do the same thing with non-full-perm content.
I would be fascinated to see how you intend this would work, given that you can't use any of that content without decrypting it, and once it's decrypted there's no technical restriction preventing it from being copied and re-uploaded. If you can see it, you can copy it.
Instead you'll have to trust every region domain on the hypergrid *independently* to protect your IP.

The only protection you have, when it comes down to it, is the honor system and the court system. Inside SL or outside SL, it doesn't matter.

It's all the same problem. If you can see it, you can copy it. That's the bottom line.

You lucky <censored!>!!! Maybe I should be less of a frothing lunatic here if I want to get invited to these parties..

If you proxy this question for me and post the answer here, I'll send you a sheep ring:

I have a adult place on the mainland. It's not Dolcet but is blatently a sex place. I've got 2-3 neighbors that will probably want to move with me. Our lands total a bit over a 1/2 sim and are split between a (larger) number of groups and parcels.

If I'm forced to move, I'd like to request a full sim (preferably with some water) so we can rebuild our lands all at once. Once the rebuild is done and we settle on the new parcels, I'd like to sell the unused areas to retail stores. I would, of course, pay the full-mainland-region tier while I'm using over a 1/2 region of land.

Can I do this?

I'm so sorry all I know that someone somewhere has a list of all of Blondin's answers. But I've completely lost track of where it is and now I cant find the post with the url. Could someone please repost the address? Thank you!!

go an have a look at ursula on the map - you still can't get into it but you'll see the layout.. there's an awful lot of structures on some of those sims, so I assume some of the chosen ones have already bagged theirs.


Blondin, If they do put snow in (which I have seen absolutely no evidence of yet) can you make sure it really is the snow texture rather than the ice? Ice is as much of a failure to us snow bunnies as that rock you guys were so fond of using in nautilus.

Assuming I'm not going to be screwed in a few months time over age verification and if i can pick my plot then I'm quite happy to go up to a full sim and stay there.. Except none of them really look particularly attractive at the moment

I can't be bothered digging the link up again so click on the further conversation link above and then click on blondins name and then click on the show all posts

One piece of information that I came across recently was another kid avi ban scare. I dont know what is LLs stance on child avis, but I would like to know I dont have to worry about having my account banned simply because I want to be a kid avi.

And kid avis are a minority... I heard that about 30 kid avis were banned, and some of them was merely on the concept of young boys being anatomically correct. Sure some may find that kind of thing offensive, but That is entirely up to them.

I want to be able to come onto SL as a kid, and not worry about being banned, simply because of LL's definition of AgePlay. Because the kids sexing is technically not the appropriate term for ageplay. Its politically incorrect. But I digress... Banning kid avis just because they are kid avis would go against the UN's charter of Human Rights, And if I found out I cant access my account simply because I want to be a kid... Im going to be loud about it.

I want Linden Labs to tell me and the Child Avis of Second Life that we don't have to be scared of being banned. Because if LL wants to make SL more family oriented, why would they ban the kid avis, and not the sex clubs? I know a lot of people are probably gonna flame me for that last comment, and honestly if they are moving the sex and fetish places to one area, and not let the child avis on... what kind of message is going across?

/me has no problems being out in the middle of nowhere - I'd actually prefer it. Riverfront would be nice..

I'm torn, I'll be giving up a rather attractive bit of beachfront and the top of a snowy mountain that is surrounded by an alpine village and my shop is on a lovely patch of green that has a quite attractive surroundings..unfortunately for the last 2 my neighbours won't be going with me

I like the idea of consolidating it all into one sim but I want snow, flat and green and a beach.. and facing west would be really nice too..

ask for the moon and get ashes I suppose.

/me hands box of tissues "don't feel lonesome, I haven't been invited either..."

Not true. Everything you created in SL becomes LL's property. You already released your rights to them. If you don't release your rights to LL, LL would not have any permission to display them on the screen. They have to own your rights before it is technically or legally to reproduce anything you created in SL. Because they own your IP rights, they can do whatever they want with it.

This is almost universally true in any internet forum, BB, YouTube, myspace, facebook, your blog, your email, your picture, practically anything you do on someone else's server. You release the IP rights to them, if not, they can never display it on the web for you legally.


That is precisely my point. Because your creation is not encrypted, they can steal your IP by downloading it from SL and uploading it to another server. But if it is encrypted, they can download or upload however many times they want, they still cannot steal your IP unless they have the key.


Not true. That is exactly what encryption key does to protect your creation. If the key is well-designed, it is not a generic key, but a specific key that is tied to the specific user who purchased the product. That is, only and only the purchasing user can decrypt it; the same key will not work with other users. That is exactly how Apple encrypted their MP4 music. Their decoding key is tied to your username, that is why only you who paid for it can play the music. No one else can play it even if someone download/copy the same MP4 song to their iPod.

This is analogous to the current LL permission system. If someone sold an airplane to you, and it has no transfer perm, you cannot transfer it to someone else. Even though it is not encrypted, it is effectively doing the same, i.e., LL is the holder of the key to unlock the airplane for you, and that key will not work for others., whether the airplane is encrypted or not, it is not the point. It is who is the holder of the key that unlocks the permission for you to use. Encryption is merely replacing LL's authority by an anonymous authority (the encryption algorithm), that's the only difference.

No. That is what the public key in encryption is all about. The public key is distributed to the free world. It takes 2 keys to unlock it. One key in the public on the server grid, the other key is private. That is how encryption in the real world works. The encryption in all internet including all internet banking and the credit card purchase on the web uses this public-key/private-key pair to work. That is how your web browser can encrypt your money transaction for you with a public key, yet IE, or FireFox or nobody in the world can decrypt or eavesdrop on you even with full knowledge of the public key unless they have the private key. This is Encryption 101. In fact, that is the same encryption scheme that all national security works too.

If this is true, then our nation's national security would fall on the honor system's hand or the court system. That would be a joke

Yes, it is true, if you can see it, you can copy it. BUT you cannot use it

Try copy someone's MP4 song from Apple iTunes store, and play it on your iPod if you are not an authorized user of the original purchaser who owns the private key, good luck

and Blondin.. I would still like an answer to this ...

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I have no idea about kid avas, remote controlled by adults. But as long you do no criminal things in background, have fun...

But your point brings me to another problem... I saw Linden employees running around as animals, moles... moles with a small red hat on...and they let the poor moles working hard at daylight and they let them running around on stone-tiles... They builded Nautilus...dressed as moles...this is, from an animal protection view seen, extreme brutal and offensive...we should inform Greenpeace and the World Wildlife Fund and what do we know? Maybe they abused child moles for that? These moles are so small...much smaller than a kid avatar...

Oh these Lindens, these moral apostels...they debase moles...

Next problem would be: IF kids are allowed on the grid, wich avatars and skins will they wear? Adult ones? 2 meter high with Schwarzenegger-muscles, or looooong legs and monster-boobies?

Questions over questions...

But that the Lindens abuse small, blind, sweet, daylight-shy, poor moles as working slave-avatars, makes me really angry! This is a scandal wich even the famous Dolcette thing has not to offer.

What should average people think, when they see these brutal shocking pictures? Moles, wich moving heavy wheight houses around and building watergates. This is cruelty to animals!

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I cant tell if you are serious or not.

/me takes a tissue and honks hard

I think we should plant a chat logger on someone who's going and then we can at least see what's typed.. bah to voice!

Dear Katheryne

We were talking about nazi regime here because they are known as the most successful in the implementation of segregation and ghettos. It all started to make life more easier for the rest. "You will be with your own kind" , "You will do business together", "You are too controversial to be among us" etc. Segregation always results in disaster at the end. However, it is always innocent at the beginning. So we have the right to remind about Hitler and other New World Order puppets. Slave-labour countries today is the problem and it has a lot to do with second life, because only slaves are forced to move where their masters wish them to go. So in fact if you agree to move you are nothing but a slave. Of course you can always uninstall SL from your computer and forget about it. But I think decision about this should be yours to make and shouldnt be enforced.

However as I mentioned before here in my posts, I do not agree with decleration of human rights and I find it as useless piece of paper. I believe that if someone willingly submit to the master and want to be a slave. Let him be a slave. Some people just love to be puppets, but I am not one of them.

Situation where we are required to flag our sims or move to the ghetto is one of the most scandalous idea in the short history of virtual worlds. Think about the Internet, what a great impact it had on our society. Virtual worlds will have even greater impact and 50 years from now children will learn at school about this. They will learn that one day, a monopolistic company decided to move people away without any reason. Just because they were freaks for them and they ruined the image of company. It will be the day when people (customers) became a problem. But this day will also be remembered as the new beginning. The day when people strike back.

In other words, it will never work. It didnt work in the past in rl, it wont work in sl.This is the day when people stand up and scream loud :

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!!

I need a drink.

Only if you bring enough for everyone.

It was a serious conter, dressed as parody, to the Lindens attitute to arbitrarily judge things. If they have the chutzpa to point on -maybe- naked adult avatars, then I have the chutzpa to point on their mole avatars coming over as offensive for reasons. They started that game to discriminate whatever and this was a reply. Motto: zero tolerance for the intolerants!

One cuba-libre for me, please

Hey, it's my birthday today. I shouldn't have to buy.