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Valerius Constantine
*I* am adult content!
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04-29-2009 00:09
Plenty of places sell Gorean clothing and silks. They also cater to their style of buildings, none of these examples are adult or sexual in themselves any more so than any other buildings and clothing items. A perfect example of places that cater to "adult" activities, but are themselves "mature", and with only a few changes to their land description, could stay where they are. At least, according to Blondin.  ^V^ |
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Valerius Constantine
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04-29-2009 00:29
No, I don't see it that way. If it's "common sense" for Gorean sims, it's "common sense" for nearly every Mature sim on the grid. Yes, there is adult content and situations in Gor. There are ALSO adult content and situations going on everywhere else. By resident estimate, about 50% of the mainland qualifies as "adult content" under LL's definitions. I don't hold with slavery, I don't do Gor. But once again, LL is wielding far too broad a brush. I think that where people are neglecting to think this through is in forgetting that Sex is only *one* of the criteria for making something "adult". Violence is another, and like it or not, Slavery, of *any kind* is and must be considered violence, of a kind. Then there is the Gorean Combat RP to consider. This is how you wind up with Gor being labeled "adult", and probably the "pony play" too. the people making the rules have their notions of what is right and wrong, and it doesn't match up with those of us in the dark side. "that" is why we are the ones who have to move, even though we outnumber the residents at the *other* extreme of the spectrum. the easily traumatized The rules are being made by people with no sympathy for us. It's like a smoker trying to argue about personal freedom- no matter what he says, his non-smoking opponent is thinking "That's just the cigarettes talking- it's the addiction". Same with a junkie arguing personal freedom to do drugs. And somone arguing to keep their "porn". Because that's what all this stuff is considered by Cyn, Jack, marty, mark, and probably Blondin too. It's all porn, and there is no justification, no reason for it to exist except for personal choice. no reason will be acceptable. We're a bunch of perverts, and they have lumped us all in together, regardless of our argument. We're all 14, LL is mom and dad, and they have just found our porn stash. If you look at the whole thing on that level, it all makes a certain twisted kind of sense, doesn't it? ^V^ |
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Ryanna Enfield
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Join date: 26 Dec 2005
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04-29-2009 00:29
It's being fixed. It was an attempt to stifle sexual attraction between Avatars, but then the Lindens realized some people were into doing the nasty with clowns. =P _____________________
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Valerius Constantine
*I* am adult content!
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04-29-2009 00:30
I think the idea was that a store that was primarily not sexually oriented that had some sexually oriented items for sale would be able to stay and advertise in mature land. Blondin? As long as they didn't advertise any of the sexually oriented items, I think that's what he was saying. ^V^ |
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Valerius Constantine
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04-29-2009 00:39
They can. That will be their choice if they want to move. As far as I understand it..... If they are on a private sim they can stay where they are.. If they are on "Linden land" or "Main Land" then if they want to have "Adult" content. They need to be on the Adult continent. From what I have gathered so far. Anyone correct me if I am wrong. The Person must first buy land on the new continent and then move their content and sell the land on mainland. I have not heard of any offers by the lindens to 1 transfer ownership of land from the PG/Mature Mainland to the Adult New sex continent. 2 Transfer the prims to the new place. You can apply(through a support ticket- not now but eventually) for a straight up swap of your current land for adult mainland- but it isn't a sure thing- and no there won't be any help to move. ^V^ |
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Valerius Constantine
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04-29-2009 00:41
So on the whole I can expect my SL experience to get even worse. I can expect my in-world experience to be even less predictable. I can experience the annoyance of not being able to find what I want without testing euphemisms and alternate spellings to locate censored content. I can expect some of my beloved content creators and hangouts to go private or close their doors. Looks like this is the direction everything is headed. YEp! Welcome to the brave new SL! ^V^ |
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Valerius Constantine
*I* am adult content!
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04-29-2009 00:43
With all this BS from the Lindens and harassment on the mainland, why would anyone want to have land on the mainland in the first place? Come rent on an island. It's pricier, yes - but less hassle. Plus you can terraform the land more than on Mainland. Come to the islands, where freedom to be you still reigns supreme! Until they are forced to flag content rating- and someone get's AR'd for violating the content rating. Private estates are affected too. ^V^ |
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Wynochee LeShelle
Polykontexturalist
Join date: 3 Feb 2007
Posts: 658
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04-29-2009 00:55
You do realize you just Godwined the thread. Comparing this to Nazi concentration camps is just retarded. On the off chance you can be reasoned with, I'll just say, LL doesn't have to coerce, trick or fool anybody. They can make millions vanish in an instant. A power I'm sure Hitler would have loved. With that power, such concepts as concentration camps become completely unnecessary.And with that, i'm definitely done here lol. I pointed *not* too explicite on the Nazi's. I pointed along my text on phenomens on every continent and along all times since humans stumbling around on the surface of this planet - to exclude and to isolate people for whatever so called reasons is not a new developement on earth. I am a fan of include and expand and of multi-culturalism and cosmopolitan flair, I am even a fan of easy going and relaxed laid back living, known as: live and let live.. I am basicly more the "welcome-type" - I have no problems with .org, .com, .edu organisiations in game or elswhere. It would be stupid to ignore them, because sometimes I build creations and architectures wich are able to support their being and biz here too. So, it would increase my market chances as well, as to increase my chances to meet some more and hopefully interesting people from time to time. I only want *not* to be too much remote controlled by the owners of the tech-platform for wich I pay enough to use it, while doing here My World and My Imaginations, wich is still the official inviting slogan to enter SL. I also love style and ambience. Can be trashy or high elegant, ornament-reduced clear quality design or grunge, but: whatever comfort and *social peace* for specific interests (i.e. education, biz meetings, etc.) is planned, I see no reason to give up *my* comfort and the so far allowed and offered flexibility for that. The now by LL focused target-groups have all tools to integrate themselfs like we all did at locations of *their* choice. And if some are fans of closed camps, they can build their own camps and rulings and hide themselfs from the rest of the society. This is then *their freedom of choice*, right?! And no: I released not explicite the Nazi Hammer, I named also and additional specific developements in the US and in South-Africa and wherever, means: totalitarism in general. Kind of -let's say - "culture politic" or "culture-revolution", made by a sort of self-declared "elite" is in general a dangerous thing. Nazis brought that to kind of industrial perfection...sadly enough, but if you are personally tired to read about Nazi's, it works also with Maoism and Stalinism perfect, plus Apartheid and how Disn...-sorry... the US handled human rights along their short history. Keywords: black people/slavery, latinos, natives and not to forget specific political groups (McCarthy era) and specific lifestyles and even specific sexual preferences and ideas until into contemporary and present times, as we see here exemplaric again. All of them has and had hard to struggle to reach halfway a status of equal human rights and equal citizenship and freedom zones there. All I want from Linden Research, Inc. is, to be sensible with those questions while they try to implement ideas about deplacing, zoning, rating and filtering. But while you personally are *definitive done* here, hehehe  - I answered that to give away again the real impression about how my text was meant, if not for you, then for other readers and explicite for LL itself.With you, in-game-customer-of-LL-colleague, I have *no* problems, as said - and I understand your more optimistic point of view, as said. We will see if your optimism was wrong or right in future. It is an old problem for any author of anything everywhere since ages and since the alphabets are created: sometimes it goes about wrong writing, ok, but often enough there are maybe people wich are ambitioned to practice *wrong reading*, hehehe I think, it was not very wise from you, to try to nail me exclusive on the Nazi thing, after you had read my text. But thanks for your attention wich you gave short in. *giggles* |
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Ryanna Enfield
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Join date: 26 Dec 2005
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04-29-2009 00:56
I used to own and run a 15 sim estate. I am well aware of the work, which is to say It took me one whole day to move a 11,000 prim sim build from one sim to another. I'm afraid I'm not going to give people much sympathy for the 'lost time and money' part. Picking up your parcel and re-rezzing it on a new one isn't reall that hard. Iv'e personally moved my own sim about 4 times in my SL career. Ah yes, so when we don't put ourselves in others shoes, and simply detach, it makes it all seem justifiable right? People who are used to moving around usually have a "gut feeling" that they will be moving again soon and usually leave things nicely packed in boxes so the next move is easier. Many of residents had no idea they would suddenly find themselves having to move. I guess it is very easy to go along with something and feel it is the right thing to do when you simply refuse to try and sympathize with others. _____________________
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Valerius Constantine
*I* am adult content!
Join date: 5 Jun 2008
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04-29-2009 00:56
I can't disagree with your assessment. But I'm agreeing with it because I choose to, not because I have no choice. I do have a choice. As the saying goes I could 'pack up my crap and leave." And that option is still not off the table. I support it because I think it can work, I think it's a reasonable compromise (and think about it, LL is giving up as much as they are getting), and I think in the end everyone will benefit. I know it's hard to see that now, but over the years I've learned to trust my gut, and that's what my gut is telling me, right now anyway. I don't agree this is the worst possible way. And I've not really seen a reasonable alternative offered. Making a PG continent, flat out won't work. Chopping up the experience so people can just tune out every little thing that offends them, I have big problems with. I haven't seen any alternate plan for age verifying at all. It's easy to say "LL you are doing it wrong!", but it's very, very hard to say "This is a better plan" and lay out all the details, especially when you aren't privy to all the pressures and ramifications LL is likely facing. I can only guess at what those may be, But I'm a pretty good guesser. Well, My plan covered all of those bases, but never mind that. The problem is that the "problems" LL is trying to solve *are* things like "chopping up the experience so people can tune out every little thing that offends them" That's a *goal* of LInden Labs- that's one of the reasons that they are *doing* all this. Another reason is griefing and inappropriate content in welcome areas, "Freenis" bumping and whatnot. Another reason it to polish up their public image with corporations and universities- once again, you have to chop up the experience to give them a "predictable" experience. Chopping SL up is exactly what this whole thing is about. Personally, I have been trying to point out that they are setting up the security fence around the *wrong* part of the experience. that if they want to chop up and sequester anything, it ought to be the part they want squeaky-clean. And in order to make any long term changes, they have to do away with the freebie unverified account. Leave the ones they have in place, but not allow any new ones. Put a shelf life on unused accounts. send a 60-day deadline e-mail to anyone who hasn't logged in in 30 days. after 60 more, delete the account. Clear out the deadwood in the user base, and let the unverifieds stay on as long as they like, but restrict more and more areas to verified only- *especially the welcome areas and the PG areas* keep them clean and nuke anyone who violates them. I have some other ideas too- starting with "Tell the residents via login screen what you want to accomplish and ask them for advice"- But like I said- I've been at this for a month and a half I respect that you want to give all this a chance to work, and that you think it can. I don't agree with you, though. I think that Linden Labs will wind up breaking your heart with this one. I and the rest of the people on this forum are trying our level best to talk them out of it, is all. ^V^ |
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Lasher Oh
Smelling the coffee
Join date: 3 Apr 2007
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04-29-2009 01:00
I'll bring popcorn, who want's some? so long as it doesn't go a bit like this... 'About how long will I have to wait? I've still got a lot to get done today so that I can be fully prepared bright and early tomorrow morning to go into combat the minute they want me to.' 'Sir?' 'What's that, Sergeant?' 'What was your question?' 'About how long will I have to wait before I can go in to see the major?' 'Just until he goes out to lunch,' Sergeant Towser replied. 'Then you can go right in.' 'But he won't be there then. Will he?' 'No, sir. Major Major won't be back in his office until after lunch.' Joseph Heller - Catch 22 ^L^ |
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Valerius Constantine
*I* am adult content!
Join date: 5 Jun 2008
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04-29-2009 01:09
I can see Second Inventory being the cause of this. Second Inventory does not operate within the Linden Labs terms of service, because the Linden Labs ToS does not grant anyone (not even Linden Labs themselves) the right to transfer third party content into another grid regardless of the permissions set on the content. But Second inventory only works with full-perm objects (so the blurb for it says, anyway- it costs too much for me to play with it) If you have purchased full permissions, or is is an object you yourself has made, then what is the issue? Full perm items are re-sellable anyway, after all. ^V^ |
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Lasher Oh
Smelling the coffee
Join date: 3 Apr 2007
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04-29-2009 01:18
Well hell... where do i sign up to be *elite squad*? Well said Lasher.. and just about the same time i was saying roughly the same things. GMTA....and all that jazz ~Brie You added all the other vital points I forgot to bring out synchronicity can be a wonderful thing ^L^ |
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Ryanna Enfield
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Join date: 26 Dec 2005
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04-29-2009 01:20
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Public_Nightly/1.23?#UI_Changes_in_Support_of_Adult_Content: Selected UI Changes in Support of Adult Content: About Land Window Changes * On the About Land > Options tab, the checkbox for PG/Mature content/Adult content will be greyed-out/disabled when it cannot be changed based on the rating of the estate/region. o NOTE: After a 60-day transition period, the Options tab will no longer display the 'Adult' dropdown choice on Show Place in Search under: [possible categories] Buy Land Window Changes * The Buy Land window will show an error message when a PG resident attempts to buy land with a higher rating (Mature or Adult) than the level indicated in their Maturity preference. Menu Bar Changes * The parcel name displayed in the menu bar [eg. "LindenWorld B 132,123,24 (Mature) - Main Stage"] will now indicate "  Adult)" as well as "Mature)" and "PG)" Edit > Preferences Changes * A new option on the Preferences > General tab allows you to choose your desired maturity rating (I want to access content rated o This option is greyed-out/disabled before you log in, since it must be read from the database. Profile Changes * On the Profile > Classified tab, creating a new Classified now generates it for the parcel location you are standing at the moment. o If on a PG region, the classified can only be rated as PG Content. o If on an Adult region, the classified can only be rated as Adult Content. o If on a Mature region, you can specify the new classified as "PG Content" or "Mature Content". o If you try to create a PG or Mature classified but in the description utilize keywords which are deemed to be "adult terms", an error message will indicate which of those terms may not be utilized for this Classified, and will link to the Knowledge Base for further info. Region/Estate Changes * The Region/Estate > Region tab allows you to set or change the region's Rating: (PG, Mature, Adult). NOTE: This is the only location in the UI where a region's maturity Rating can be set. * The Region/Estate > Region tab shows the region's Type: (Homestead, etc). * The Region/Estate > Convenant tab now shows (read-only) the region's Type: (Homestead, etc) and Rating: (PG, Mature, etc). The layout has also been re-arranged. Search Improvements o The Search > Places tab now includes checkboxes to indicate whether you want to include [X] PG content, [X] Mature content, [X] Adult content in your search. The panel for your search result details will also indicate whether the Place's Location is on a region which is (PG), (Mature) or (Adult). + The ability to choose "Adult" as a category of Places to search for will disappear after the 60-day transition period. Any places still categoried as "Adult" at that time will then be migrated by Linden Lab to the "Other" category. World Map Changes * A new icon has been added to the World Map Legend to show Adult events, as distinct from PG and Mature events o If you are a resident rated Mature, the Adult events icon will be greyed-out/disabled. o If you are a resident rated PG, you will see neither the Adult nor the Mature event icons. * The World Map now shows land for sale (yellow) only when the land is rated at or below your Maturity rating. o In other words, only Adult residents will see yellow indicators on the World Map for Adult-rated Land for Sale. * The tooltip over any region on the map will show the rating of that region, appended as "...(PG)", "...(Mature)", "...(Adult)" Teleport Changes * A Teleport error message will appear if you attempt to teleport to a region with a higher maturity rating than your rating. o If you are not cleared for the higher (e.g. Adult) access, the message will direct you to the Knowledge Base for more information. o If you simply have set your personal maturity Rating too low (in Preferences), the error message will include a button that will allow you the option to immediately raise your maturity Rating preference. Region Crossing Changes * Attempting to walk/fly into a region which has a higher maturity rating than your rating will result in an error message. o If you are not cleared for the higher (e.g. Adult) access, the message will direct you to the Knowledge Base for more information. o If you simply have set your personal Rating preference too low (in Preferences), the error message will include a button that will allow you the option to immediately raise your maturity Rating preference. o You can choose to suppress this error message in the future, but you will always see a blue notification "tip" appear briefly & fadeout as you fail to walk/fly into a prohibited region, to make sure you understand why you were denied access. Claiming Land Changes * Attempting to claim a parcel from a region which has a higher maturity rating than your rating will result in an error message. o If you are not cleared for the higher (e.g. Adult) access, the message will direct you to the Knowledge Base for more information. o If you simply have set your personal maturity Rating too low (in Preferences), the error message will include a button that will allow you the option to immediately raise your maturity Rating preference. Additional UI Changes: Pie Menu Changes * When you right-click on another avatar, the Pie menu now includes an option to Report... abuse from that resident. The Abuse Reporter will then come up pre-populated with that Resident's name. Do love the last one, will be so easy to file a AR, *shudders* BEware, be VERY aware!! SL has slipped back into the 17th centuary, Let the Witch trials begin! ooo How GORy will this get also: Changed: Hovering over a dot on the minimap now shows the name of the resident These are deal breakers. Completely. Lindens, you FAIL completely. This accomplishes nothing predictable at all. This is about control. You have already lost, and will continue to lose my time spent in world. Watch your concurrency, Mark and enjoy. It is safe to say I'm not alone. That is the stand I'm willing to make against your new vision of a "Restricted/Controlled Second Life". _____________________
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Valerius Constantine
*I* am adult content!
Join date: 5 Jun 2008
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04-29-2009 01:22
As for implementing this Jira in the new 1.23 viewer, I'm sorry to say that it just isn't possible. That's not to say that we are opposed to the idea. As you are all aware, we are attempting a HUGE change in the Second Life experience and we would like the opportunity to focus first on rolling out these changes. In other words, we want to get this first step right before we take another. Blondin, the *first* step is notifying your users that you intend to change things. *on the login screen*. Announcing in a blog that you are opening a few forums that are carefully mined for questions that pre-suppose that the plan is implemented is *not* an announcement. Putting the announcement on the login page, with a link to the blog and the forum, and the support portal to apply for a move to Ursula *is* an announcement. And you *still* should have asked about this *far* earlier in the process, so thatfeed back could *actually* be incorporated. There are some *excellent* ideas for achieving your goals in this forum. not using them is foolish in the extreme. ^V^ |
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Innula Zenovka
Registered User
Join date: 20 Jun 2007
Posts: 1,825
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04-29-2009 01:30
Well, Blondin has said that Couldbe's store wouldn't have to move "Except for a few words in the search description", but then wouldn't say what they were. That would indicate to me that what search terms you use *does* affect where you can do business from, but blondin hasn't addressed that point directly. ^V^ Originally Posted by Innula Zenovka Does this mean that, if I want to use certain words in an advert, the place or event I'm publicizing has to be on an Adult sim, or that I can use these terms wherever the place I'm advertising is located but no one will see my adverts who is not age-verified? If you plan on using Adult words in your ads / search, 1) the place / event will need to be on an adult region and 2) only verified accounts will be able to search and find those key words. From my reading of the rules, there could be no objection to a shop on a Mature sim selling, for example, a slave cushion containing a variety of Gor and non-Gor submission poses, but how should the cushion be advertised? The cushion should be advertised using non adult words And where does this leave Gor, for heavens sake? Are the Goreans supposed to make all their sims Adult only? In practice, I guess they will have to. Gor would be considered adult. So, the answer to your question, I guess the question would be: In the case of "mature" items sold for "adult" activities (BDSM equipment, slave rugs, prim genitalia, sexgen items and poseballs, etc), can a merchant sell these items on *mature* land using *adult* search terms in the search description? Is it the actual merchandise and activity on a parcel that makes it "adult", or is it the Parcel's (or business's) description in search? I can easily see someone with mature items to sell that wants to cater to an *adult* clientele, and would make the sacrifice of their ads not being seen by those with only "mature" or "PG" content enabled, BUt would such a person have to move to *adult* land in order to do so? What was confusing me, I think, is that I hadn't fully appreciated that I must ask myself two separate, but related, questions -- first, "is my content 'adult'?" and, if the answer to the first question is "no", then, "regardless of the nature of the content, do I want/need to use "adult" terms to describe it?" If the answer to EITHER question is "yes," then I've got to sell from Adult land. |
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Valerius Constantine
*I* am adult content!
Join date: 5 Jun 2008
Posts: 777
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04-29-2009 01:33
Get your facts straight. This is no more "ultra-right conservative" then the ad ban was. It is coming from the "liberal" education community. This is something that both the liberal "educators" and the Right-wing "suits" can agree on. They don't need porn cluttering up *their* world, and they don't want SL as long as they can see it. Add in the social conservatives- most of whom would have a coronary after two or three searches, and you get another trifecta. Political correctness meets stuffed shirt manners meets bible-thumping morals. Something for *everyone* to agree on. Simple folks like us have to go, for little timmy's sake. LIberal and conservative! I swear, it seems like that's the new frakkin' *religion* these days. Sometimes, people are *just dickheads*, regardless of politics, ya know? ^V^ |
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Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
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04-29-2009 01:38
LS, I'm thinking that what we'll need is a way to advertise outside of SL. A place where people can advertise their "mature" business using whatever words they like. For the most part, I'm not all that worried about the fate of those who decide to stay on sub-Adult land (and it does now appear that it really will be a choice, as it should be). Yeah, they can't use Adult words to describe their content, and for certain songbird creators that's a hardship. But for most, choosing to not go to Adult land means giving up the Adult market: selling "silks" instead of "Gorean silks." For them, life will go on. The part that scares me, rather, is what happens to the forthright Adult merchants, deprived of non-Adult-qualified shoppers. Now, I think this is a temporary situation--that within a year, at least 90% of residents will be PIOF, PIU, or (god help them) IDV'd. But the transition will be difficult, and I think we should be planning a concerted effort to minimize the impact during the transition, and to shorten it by expediting the "conversion" of residents to Adult-qualified status. There are three things that come to mind: 1. Encourage as many merchants as possible to move to Adult land (whether they really need to or not). The more stuff that can only be found on Adult land, the more incentive for residents to qualify for Adult content. 2. Make no-transfer content available only on Adult land, or offer it there at a steep discount to the prices on sub-Adult land. I plan to open a very different store on the "main Mainland" with a *lot* more content--at twice the price that it can be had on Ursula, and with a prominent landmark-giver and sign detailing the better prices to be had at my Ursula location. (Sure, I'll lose the prude market... which I estimate to be, oh, say 2-4% )3. (To the point of the cited post) Make Adult-content Search available to sub-Adult accounts on sub-Adult land, if they want it. Let them know what they're missing by not qualifying as Adult. This would be a HUD connected through the web to a pretty simple bot application (I thought at first it was just a web app, but it seems that LL will be hiding all Adult Search content from any web access--which kinda makes sense). Anyway, we know from other blog posts that LL just *loves* bots, so they should be big fans of this. (But I'm not sure: will the sub-Adult residents be interested in seeing what they can't have? I know I sure as hell would, but then that's why I'd Adult-up in a heartbeat, so I may not understand those folks at all.) _____________________
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Couldbe Yue
one unhappy customer
Join date: 30 Mar 2008
Posts: 1,532
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04-29-2009 01:39
Blondin, could you kindly clarify that point? What is the purpose of moving "adult" places into "other"? And how does this make Search more "predictable"? they're removing adult businesses from the places search.. this is far more important as there are still a large proportion of people who don't use all or classifieds to find shops. _____________________
Satiated Desires: Toys for Grown Ups.
Inworld: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Norf%20Haven/186/132/55 XSL: https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&MerchantID=77743&&sort=age&dir=asc Blog: http://satiateddesires.wordpress.com/ |
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Couldbe Yue
one unhappy customer
Join date: 30 Mar 2008
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04-29-2009 01:45
OKay, hang on a sec. Which part of "Educators and business concerns" are you two missing. This is something that both the liberal "educators" and the Right-wing "suits" can agree on. They don't need porn cluttering up *their* world, and they don't want SL as long as they can see it. Add in the social conservatives- most of whom would have a coronary after two or three searches, and you get another trifecta. Political correctness meets stuffed shirt manners meets bible-thumping morals. Something for *everyone* to agree on. Simple folks like us have to go, for little timmy's sake. LIberal and conservative! I swear, it seems like that's the new frakkin' *religion* these days. Sometimes, people are *just dickheads*, regardless of politics, ya know? ^V^ try reading the transcripts.. not only does the merchant one bear little relationship to the audio I listened to, but according to the educator one their concerns are the same as ours with no hint of approval of this. I haven't listened to the other brown bags but I'm of the opinion they're more wishful thinking around what they wished had been said rather than the actual. _____________________
Satiated Desires: Toys for Grown Ups.
Inworld: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Norf%20Haven/186/132/55 XSL: https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&MerchantID=77743&&sort=age&dir=asc Blog: http://satiateddesires.wordpress.com/ |
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Valerius Constantine
*I* am adult content!
Join date: 5 Jun 2008
Posts: 777
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04-29-2009 01:52
Any of you guys see this? It seems there are more surprises with the new viewer. http://www.starley.com/2009/04/the-future-of-skins.html Who wants to bet that this is an attempt to re-design the baking process to throw mandatory undies on your avatar if the "adult" box isn't checked? ^V^ |
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Couldbe Yue
one unhappy customer
Join date: 30 Mar 2008
Posts: 1,532
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04-29-2009 01:59
LS, I'm thinking that what we'll need is a way to advertise outside of SL. A place where people can advertise their "mature" business using whatever words they like. ^V^ blondin has already said that if that approach is taken there'll be trouble. _____________________
Satiated Desires: Toys for Grown Ups.
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Argent Stonecutter
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04-29-2009 01:59
LL has a real opportunity to break into the corporate mainstream, but it won't last forever. _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
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04-29-2009 02:02
If I can still build a 100m tall penis on mature mainland without being forced to move, nothing's getting covered up except search results. Nothing except search results are being made safe for work/schools. _____________________
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Valerius Constantine
*I* am adult content!
Join date: 5 Jun 2008
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04-29-2009 02:03
Lindal, which part of what you wrote was the direct quote, which Linden was it from, and where was it published? Am very curious as to this. It was from blondin Just posted this response on that thread: Quoting Me!!: "Well hello everyone! I see a few familiar faces in the crowd. I'll try and address some of these comments but you should check back with the main thread /352/11/314444/1.html if you don't already know about it. It seems that Kyle hit the major take - away from this issue: "The greatest risk with the coming changes is a user being inadvertently in a position of being at risk of Abuse Report for a content violation..." Ryanna also says "it is important that they be able to flag themselves as such in some way so that they never find themselves in a situation where they have offended others, and become the target of an AR because they "accidentally" dropped, tp'd or otherwise flew into a PG area." Lord Sullivan asks: "Can you give us a cast iron guarantee that this will not happen and if it does through no fault of our own we will not be subjected to an AR from a PG person, as we all know how inconsistent the GTeam are." While I would love to sit here and type out a guarantee that you could quote, there are always a few bugs to work out in every new viewer. Is it never going to happen? I can't say until 1.23 is in wider distribution and the majority of SL users are experiencing it for themselves. But I can assure you Lord and everyone here, that this is the way in which the 1.23 viewer is intended to work. Logins will always redirect you to either your last location, your home, or a safe location based on your preferred maturity. If your last location was PG, or your home is, you may end up on a PG region. If this should happen to fail and result in an AR, the Gov Team will investigate each case individually and escalate the failure to the appropriate developers to fix. As for implementing this Jira in the new 1.23 viewer, I'm sorry to say that it just isn't possible. That's not to say that we are opposed to the idea. As you are all aware, we are attempting a HUGE change in the Second Life experience and we would like the opportunity to focus first on rolling out these changes. In other words, we want to get this first step right before we take another. |