Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

Cyn (possibly) did a piece on why this was happening for the great and good and that an art gallery may well be adult................etc ..oh and that a woman in ropes however arty is adult...
A lot of silences...NO MALE gamer questions (to my ear)

It's not so much a question of forced relocation as much as it is are you lucky enough to qualify for land swap. The majority of businesses with adult content will simply be forced to change their advertising leaving a wide open playing field to those who qualify for land swap or can afford access to Ursula or private estates rated adult.

If you have a business that relies on adult traffic...that's not the gulag, that's the jackpot

But the main question still remains- She paid for land where she could do anything she liked- she pays tier for land where she can do anything she likes.

Now LL is going to come along and say "Sorry, but we are going to drastically curtail your options of what you can do on land you bought because it was "anything goes".

Is she entitled to her money back? I think she is.
Is she entitled to a swap for land that meets *all* of her original criteria, including landscaping? I think that she is.
Is she going to get *either* of these things? No, she is not.

She has not changed. LL isn't being *forced* to make any of these changes. it is an entirely voluntary action on LL's part.

Why must *she* be the one who has to make all the sacrifices for LL's agenda?

Why is that?

-V-

In summary (so far)

SL residents can buy mature things in mature stores and use these items in mature sims as long as these mature things are not advertised (think a private house)

If they choose to advertise, then this content is considered Adult and qualifies for Ursula.

But, they won't be allowed to move if they change a few words in search.

However, the modified search can still bring someone to the above place, and that someone will be within full rights to AR the owner for falsely advertising (or rather hiding) adult content.

Meanwhile, in the PG Land, Joe Annoying straps on a 4 prim phallus they created on a public sandbox using a free account as they are about to parade it in the PG area and grief the prospective Warner, Disney and Sony CIOs...

meh...

interesting, are you using the beta version of the new viewer (I can't remember what it's called)?

Selling adult content does not automatically flag the store as adult. Look at the key words and how you advertise it. A lot of people will be able to skirt this whole issue by changing a few words in their descriptions.

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IF YOU REMOVE A WORD OR TWO, ESPECIALLY WORDS WHICH ARE *HIGHLY* INDICATIVE OF THE TYPE OF CONTENT WHICH WILL BE ENCOUNTERED, IT *WILL* BE LESS DESCRIPTIVE AND, HENCE, BECOME A "LESS PREDICTABLE" EXPERIENCE FOR THOSE WHO COME TO THAT LAND!
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Yes, people will be turned down. The reason is that the majority of people will not need to move. Many others would simply need to remove a word or two from their land info or search tags and they would be fine on Mature.

From one tech fad to another: virtual world Second Life is putting into effect some new measures to keep, ahem, adult content away from users who would prefer to dodge all the smut and instead just get on with doing whatever it is they do in the virtual world. Flying around in the guise of a fire-breathing dragon, for example, or watching list-compiling comedian Jimmy Carr at work.

Later this year Linden Lab, the parent company of Second Life, will create a standalone "continent" for adult content.

Any members (fnar!) who don't purchase private "land" will be asked to migrate to the new continent if they wish to partake in adult-related activities, presumably involving virtual bits of their virtual bodies.

So many rules: isn't this why people left the real world in the first place?

A Linden Lab spokesperson explained in a fine display of sentence structure: "The people that are on our mainland and in our estate, if they are going to engage with adult content, are being asked to do that in the adult content area."

So what does all this additional red tape mean for the denizens of Second Life?

Well, the idea is that it'll help make it a friendlier environment for some of the new "residents" Linden Lab hopes to woo, like businesses and academic institutions.

This could have two effects: firstly, Second Life could be increasingly used by companies, educational institutions and even governments; secondly, the place should be a bit more peaceful for all the fire-breathing dragons and Jimmy Carr acolytes.

Peaceful, that is apart from one island with pumping music and flashing red lights. A massively over-populated place with one thing on its mind.

Let's get it on...

I own BDSM Bondage Bukkake Fetish. It's an extremely adult content and I work hard to make it that way and that's been the success of my place. I cater only to those with fetishes beyond the normal poseball jumpers.

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And now they are telling me where I can be, how I can decorate, ....This is a sad day for myself and LL...I think I'm out of here.

It's been a good two years everyone...Enjoy what you have left.

DigitalJoe Saintlouis

There's a build of the 1.23 viewer at the Open Source Portal:

http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Open_Source_Portal

Since it is a very early version, and the search filter obviously isn't complete, I'm sure things will change, a lot. It's an interesting look at what's on the way though.

FWIW, I can't teleport to the Arapaima Safe Hub at all with it.

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And before you start having a rant at me, I am pretty openminded, have even visited your club several times and find it fascinating, have met some interesting people there.
But I did initially find it by accident while bot-hunting so it was a wee bit of a shock to find real life photographs of cum-shots and the like when I wasn't expecting it. (Should real life imagery be inside a virtual world??? Hmmmm now there's a question - if real life is separate from Second Life perhaps it should not.)

In summary (so far)

SL residents can buy mature things in mature stores and use these items in mature sims as long as these mature things are not advertised (think a private house)

If they choose to advertise, then this content is considered Adult and qualifies for Ursula.

Well, what do you think? Also here's an expanded version of my proposed solution, after a little more thought.

If what LL is doing is going to force someone to move, *for whatever reason*, they ought to be eligible to swap to a patch of Ursula. At least Ideally, that's the way it would work



#1 Announce In-World, via the login screen, that there will be changes to the content ratings in a few months, and that you want suggestions on what they should be. Put up a poll for residents to fill out at login that asks about their preferences. Actually *find out* what the majority prefers, rather than assuming or guessing.
Be prepared to segregate *either* the group which absolutely cannot abide adult content, *OR* the group which consists of "adult content" according to what the *residents* think of as adult content. Have questions in the poll which settle this definition *for* you. "What do you think of as adult content?" Then a list of specific things with ratings of 1-10 to choose from.
- pics of nude skins on vendors all the way to streamed porn movies on billboards.
-Nightclubs with fake alcohol and dance floors all the way to whorehouses that offer a pony ride.
-Cuddle posed couches in private skyboxes to orgies on the beach.
-Watermelon or pig guns all the way to cannibalism and torture
-Role-playing Saturday morning cartoon stuff in private to sexual slavery/sexual "owner and pet" role-play in public
-heavy restrictions on content to "anything goes"

Other categories as needed, but the goal would be to discover where the minority lies, how adult is "adult", How many want a "G" rated experience, and how to define the content rating categories and clearly as possible, and give the residents what they want with the least disruption possible

#2 Find out what changes will affect the *fewest* residents. If the "adult content" folks are actually in the minority, then Ursula becomes "Mature "plus". If those mortally offended by adult content are the minority, Ursula becomes "PG "plus".

#3 Announce, Again via the login screen, the results of the poll. Decide where the line between "PG" and "PG "plus" is, *OR* where the line between "Mature" and "Adult" is; Whichever is necessary for serving the unhappy minimum.

Tell the residents up front what the standards for the new content rules are and what the penalties are for violating them. *EITHER* Add a "PG "plus" rating ("G" *OR* a "Mature "plus" rating (XXX) as needed and whichever will be the least disruptive to residents.

Tell The affected residents that, because it will disrupt the fewest number of people, a "Mature "plus"/"PG "plus" continent is being constructed, and that the content ratings will be enforced with greater rigor across the board.

Announce that People who wish to be moved to the "Mature "plus"/"PG "plus" new land will be able to swap the land they own "*as of the date of the announcement* for land in Ursula if they wish, but if six weeks after reshuffle ends, a resident is found, after a careful review, to be in violation of content ratings, they will be evicted from their land. after three such evictions with the same resident, their account will be canceled.

Announce that estate/sim content flagging is mandatory for all landowners, public and private.

Announce that some sort of account verification will be needed to sign up for *NEW* accounts, and that LL is changing their accounting system for avatars. You can verify a single account and then register a reasonable number of avatars to that account (I'd say 20 as a round number)

Announce that unless an avatar logs in at least once a month, It will receive 60-day countdown to deletion. If after that 60 days expires, the avatar still hasn't logged in, delete it. That's a 3-month shelf life- enough for *anybody* to figure out if they want to keep playing or not. It will reduce load on the inventory servers, and cut down the bots a little.

Do one of the following:

A. if Ursula turns out to be for the "PG "plus" crowd, Announce that residents *must* have a verified account to access it. Period. Redirect the welcome areas to Ursula and and enforce the standards with brutal and draconian efficiency. A "PG "plus" Ursula will provide the "predictable experience" that the corporate world and those of delicate sensibilities crave, and with all new accounts requiring verification, all new residents and media people will see Ursula *first*. Turn it into a showcase with a corporate presence if you like, but never *ever* allow an unverified account or a speck of adult content inside.
Ursula will be your Showroom, your Demo model, and your Advertising campaign.

B If Ursula turns out to be a "Mature "plus" continent, then announce that you need a Verified account to access it, But you must also require a verified account to enter the *Welcome areas*. (No new unverified accounts, remember?). and proceed to shield all the newbies and the people who are comfortable with "mature "plus" content from griefers and bots.

#4 Start signing up people for the move, in two categories. People who own mainland parcels, and people who have parcels on private estates that will be flagging themselves in such a way as to evict them. Give them all a couple weeks for a deadline to make sure it reaches the most people- Again, use the login screen to notify residents to make sure that it reaches the largest number.

#5 Disable all land sales for the duration of the re-shuffle

#5 Move the people on the "move list" In order- The *largest* number of square meters *first* to smallest. Have the smallest parcel be a 512 plot. Anyone who owns a bunch of 16sqm plots will just have to consolidate or clean up. Anyone who is swapping from a private estate must, of course, become a premium member to own land in Ursula, just like everyone else.
Have some extra Sims in reserve, because more people than just those on the list will want to move.

#6 After #5 is *finished*, announce a "last chance" move list with a deadline of one week. At the end of that week, move the people on *that* list, biggest to smallest again.

#7 Announce the end of the shuffle, re-open the land office and let land sales re-commence. be ready for a *flood* of AR's regarding content from people who don't understand the ratings, or who simply want to ruin someone's day.
Announce on the login screen that LL is instructing the G-team to make no snap judgments, and to Nuke any jokers who are wasting their time with false reports.

#8 Sit back and see what happens.


My guess is that unverified accounts will eventually become a rarity, held by hardcore libertarians and "traditionalist" SL'ers. However, even these will get scarce when someone gets the idea that having a disposable alt would be useful, and offers to *buy* the unverified avatar at a bonus. Expect some pretty spectacular pranks and violations by suspiciously schizophrenic long-term unverifieds


How does that sound? It does everything that LL states as a goal, eventually, and a couple of things that LL *doesn't* state, but obviously wants. The unverified accounts are slowly phased out, it uses carrots rather than sticks, and is a more resident-driven process.

And it's *FAIR*.

-V-

Dear Blondin Linden,

I have asked 2 questions several times and even sent a notecard back when you asked for notecards with landmarks. To date you have not even acknowledged my questions. Is there a fee to get an answer and if so what is the fee?

Regards..

AO

And before you start having a rant at me, I am pretty openminded, have even visited your club several times and find it fascinating, have met some interesting people there.
But I did initially find it by accident while bot-hunting so it was a wee bit of a shock to find real life photographs of cum-shots and the like when I wasn't expecting it. (Should real life imagery be inside a virtual world??? Hmmmm now there's a question - if real life is separate from Second Life perhaps it should not.)

So, if all the more specialised stuff gets shipped off to Ursula at least the majority of the users will be able to explore without fear of coming face to face with fetish stuff, and lets be right on this one, surely the fetishists would prefer to not have to hide themselves away in skyboxes as though they are just low life scum.

I am sure you won't be leaving any time soon DigitalJoe, as your adult self or your other guises, any time soon. You're as addicted as everybody else.

Dear Blondin Linden,

I have asked 2 questions several times and even sent a notecard back when you asked for notecards with landmarks. To date you have not even acknowledged my questions. Is there a fee to get an answer and if so what is the fee?

Regards..

AO

Shockwave, where on earth do you get the idea that these items are banned from SL? Heck they're not even banned from Mature mainland.

I can't stand this nonsense anymore! People sell adult items and you tell them they are fine as long as they dont advertise them as adult? Are you really serious? How about you advertise SL without using keywords related to 3D worlds.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paisley Dawes
A partner and I are in the process of building a private region, and on that sim, in a skybox, we would like to have an area of a more adult nature. This space would not be advertised in any way, and would be for the sole use of our residents and close friends. A place to go, hang out and...whatever.

What rating would that fall under???




the purpose is that he pays US$300 per month for his private region! So it's his own business what he keeps there! And the nature of his content is NOT OF YOUR BUSINESS!
People! Stand up against this nonsense! What?!? You gonna ask how many sex balls he has?!? WTF is that!

Leave us ALONE!

BUt they *are* on the list for the new "PG" standards.

-V-