Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Main Forum Thread

Well, if it makes you feel better, so was I - and it's not exactly my forte now! I suspect Argent could trample all over me

Make sure you look both ways before crossing it.


Oh and BTW, sorry about your cousin. I swerved but it was just too late. I tried. Really.

"Originally Posted by Nany Kayo
I am not convinced that the sex trade userbase is invoved in other business or education. The types of things the majority of people posting on this tread have in their profiles would prevent them from participating in reputable mainstream organizations.... "

Now are you looking at their alt profiles or their "real" ones?

It never seems to amaze me the doctors, lawyers, teachers and even google employees that have some crazy stuff in profile and even on avatar!

A wise man once muttered

YOU NEVER KNOW!

=)

William and Mary were known swingers, even back then.

Tough questions

Right now, our priority is what it has been since we announced the plan - to gather feedback. Once the the feedback has been collected, the priority will be the creation and implementation of a plan that has the least amount of community disturbance. We want to try and make the process as painless as possible.

We always intended Second Life to be a platform that could be used for the widest range of applications as possible. And as Second Life has grown in size, the diversity of its Residents has also grown. As such, we need to support everyone's needs and choices. This is why we have made this decision.

Ive been in sl for nearly 5 years now, Have seen the growth of sl in that time.
What attracted me at all was the fact that i found something that Kids diddent want to do really. A place i could go as an adult for a change. Like real life ppls moral's cant be filtered.
Out of site outta mind will not work! This intended plan will not make anything easyer on LL.
The issues will allways be there no matter how there Moral Ideals are forced on ppl.
I use to take pride in being part of SL because of its broad mindedness.
The metaverse being what it is now, makes it most likely ppl will just go someplace else and w. them will go the money and alot of talented ppl. Making sl less attractive, not more.
Times are bad enough money wise, Sl isant exactly cheap! ITS a really bad bad idea!
Im gonna start packen NOW for OSG, Had enough of this silly stuff after all these years.
I don't need BIGBROTHER looken out after my morals for me.



Master Mirage Zephyr

(sneeches on beaches)

Well at least your talking about it on the forums would be strange one day to walk into my favorite reputable Second Life restaurant and find kids dancing on the tables and swinging from the chandeliers!

Well, I wasn't impressed with the attempts to block sexual ageplay related terms from classifieds which caught too many unrelated terms, so I'll hold my judgement.

Matthew

Forgive my ignorance, but why wouldn't link-take-drop work?

I've had reports that if you don't have a passport or driving license you can choose that from the drop down box, and enter "Not applicable" or "Not owned" and it will (sometimes) still verify you (and technically you have not entered false information either).

It does seem to fail verifications if you fail to enter a postcode however (even though that is not a mandatory field).

Matthew

Since they don't seem to responsive and not answering questions on here, Blondin thanks for making an appearance. Still not comforting. Here are the Linde office hours, perhaps we all should just keep dropping in on them until we get clear cut answers.

http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Office_Hours/MG

Take this morning for example Blondin
i got ARed becouse the sim my store is on restarted in teh middle of the night and one of my model bots in a state of undress got sent to a pg sim. how come LL doesnt see it nessecry to fix problems and properly govern there land and search before implimenting all these changes?

Let me propose a example of fairy lights ^^ all the lights work except maybe two don't come on. Are the fairy lights considered broken ?

Now congratulations - by admitting out of date information you have got around the Verification problems for 1 person. Now please consider not everyone has a passport (UK passports cost a minimum of £72 or $26672l - or a driving license (cost for learning ... ? plus cost of test £56.50 or $20930l during the week and £67.00 or $24820l weekend (providing you can pass the medical) and place yourself in there shoes.

If the build is very large, link take drop would not work (too many prims), and there are known problems with large coellesced objects not rezzing properly (e.g. at one point is a coallesced object contained more than 1024 scripts it would refuse to rez - this may still be the case).

For more complex build, the build may have been completed by multiple residents - and hence no single person can link-take-drop the entire build. In some cases, some of the original builders may no longer be active in SL.

Matthew

Blondin - If you want limited disruption if/when the new continent is brought online how about a user questionnaire on logon asking something like: "A new continent is coming. This continent will either be a anything goes adult area, in which case individuals having adult oriented parcels on mainland now will be forced to either remove all adult material or be relocated to. Or it will be a PG continent in which case all individual who own parcels and which to not be exposed to or posses adult materials will be asked to move. Which would you prefer.. A) Relocate Adult Parcels B) Relocate PG only Parcels." to get a feel for who wants what.

ummm because some of us build with more then a few prims. Because limited linking distances. Because limited amounts linked in same object. Oh yes the coalesced objects rezzing failure that may destroy what you built.

We've come up with a few funny ones at the lab as well.

Just discovered the reason I was getting a 401 error whilst trying to post in this forum, was because I'd used the words "from and "select" in the other order! Are you surprised I've little faith you'll get the adult filtering working?

Matthew

Wynochee LeShelle - i love your large post #2052. I felt quite sad reading it!

Yes there are. But Nany, you are going on your own preconceived notions. You say "many, many" but you don't know HOW many, either in SL or in RL. You have to do your research before you can draw conclusions like "taking the sex out of SL wouldn't hurt the economy". I will expand on this more in my next post.

This is LL's problem, too. They say their "research" indicates that 2-4% of SL's content is Adult, by whatever definition they're using. But they don't say how they did this research, and most of us here think that their figure grossly underestimates the amount of adult content.

They say that "many" people have complained about encountering adult content unexpectedly, and that this is the driving force behind wanting to provide a more "predictable" SL experience. They do not say HOW many. Was it a lot, compared to the number of replies in, for example, these adult content discussion threads?

This is so nuts. LL is proposing to implement a major policy change based on the complaints of some unknown, but IMO a small minority of people and affecting the lives and income and experience of some unknown but IMO very large number of people.

And all of this won't do one thing to improve the "predictability" of the SL experience, because when someone comes "unexpectedly" across adult or violent content, it's not usually because they turned a corner and ran into a sex club. It's because some other resident ran naked across their path, or some griefer attacked them. In short, in SL the unexpected happens when the sex and violence comes to you, not when you go to it.

becouse i highly doubt the numbers are anywhere near close myself. i think its just a empty soapbox for LL

Thank you and i for one hope that we do see a more transparent LL with this issue, are there plans as yet to give a timeline for this even if its a guesstimate.

Also should we start planning our moves for those of us that are definately public adult stuff and how is LL going to sort this out as to who is public adult and who isn't. We have an 800+ group that are asking questions and we cannot even give an answer yet and yes we are encouraging them to verify etc. based on our personal experiences with the system.

When are we likely to have more information about how this move will take place and are LL going to charge those forced to move anything for the new land etc. These are important things and it would maybe help squash some of the rumours now flying about and allay some fears from some posting here. I know you may not be able to give definitive answers at this moment but some ideas would be great.

Thank you for the reply Blondin and good to see you back.

I'm not an expert either Blondin - and certainly have always had other folk help me with builds - but from conversation with others, especially with large, complex builds, I'm aware of issues concerning linking distance and also where a build (e.g. a club) has multiple owners of objects, like interior vendors etc. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm sure there's a good way of doing it, but, I'm just wanting to clarify as a number of folk have places who may not be 'builders'. I know I've been involved in a couple of complex location moves/rebuilds over the last year - and it wasn't pretty.

But your answer 'sounds' like a 'yes, owners will have to move their own stuff without inworld technical support', which I know a number of people needed clarification as it was the issue which would aid them to making a decision about their willingness to move. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Its a bit of both. Its hard to get feedback on implementation when when we haven't really discussed specifics. That's not any one's fault other than our own as we ourselves are still trying to figure stuff out. There are a lot of aspects that we still need help with such as how to define ADULT. So in that respect, things are very flexible. The overall idea however, is something we feel confident about.

That it is - and we haven't really be doing our part have we?