Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Main Forum Thread

now i now i am only a drop in the bucket
and unlikly will be forced to moved but this change has the protential t make a huge impact on my sales. from the 1st of March till now i made just over 50k in lindens after teir. I am only one small buisness that is likely to loose with this proposal. add the countless others and thats a fair chunk of change. the lindens can be loosing.

Don't be silly, I'm the MASTER of argumentum ad mentos.

There are two fundamentally different visions for Second Life:

1. Adult/Private - restricted to people 18+, "Your World, Your Imagination"
2. General/Public - open to all age groups, "Disneyfication with Segregation"

Linden Lab has chosen option 2. Disneyfication with Segregation. Personally, I find it sad. Disneyland already exists. We don't need another one.

Things said in latin always sound profund

1. I have to admit I didn't come to SL to rez boxes around a sandbox, my interest in SL was that I could run around naked and do stupid shit. (Time passed and I'm now clothed and more into building, but anyways...)
That was the greatness of SL was you could choose to do anything. You could choose to stay in pg sims, or you could choose to play with the mature people.

It's freedom and anonymity that separated SL from other games on the internet, and its why I remain addicted. Taking away those two things will take away what makes SL unique from other online hangouts, and from irl.


2. Back in the day in SL -If someone made you mad, you would right click and mute them.

I happen to be a very offensive person, on accident of course. Now, when I get offended by someone, or I don't like something, I use that mute button.
Spam= Mute. Noob = Mute. Anticopybot objects = Mute. Ugly people= Mute. and so on.

I have found now that you can report people for the littlest things like intolerance. Have people become so immature that they must tattle instead of using that -mute- button?
Do they pay money to someone per hour to moderate these personal issues?
Seriously?

I don't want to risk fraud or blackmail just because someone else doesn't know how to use the mute button.

---I've enjoyed reading a few other peoples posts, some very good points were brought up I didn't even think of. Its good to know some people aren't afraid to express themselves. Also haven't found too many people who want this to happen.

Oh, yeh, stomp all over my illusions why don't you?

Just for the record. I am UK living in Holland and verified myself when it started and the alts the other day using my UK passport number and an old UK address as it wouldn't accept the fact that i lived in Holland lol but it took an old UK address i had. So yes it does accept Europian Data or it did for me and the wife, she is Dutch with a Dutch passport and of course it accepted our address here for her.

Nah, it's not discrimination, it's incompetence. A lot of people here have trouble registering as well. The whole thing has been broken since it was rolled out 2 years ago. Which is how old that FAQ is, so I wouldn't believe everything it says.

The one is too much as it is.

PS: Brenda, http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/tadpole.asp

Oh snap, you got me before I had my hair washed.

See, I knew you weren't an ad populum man, although I suppose those nice little chewy peppermints do appeal to most people...

Yes, I know Lord - hence my little hint at subjectivity in the rider...

Oh don't be such a wax ferrett. This is the internet. Who cares about factual accuracy?

My opinion is a bit biased, but I would have to agree with you and the comment you quoted.



I apologize for not being around yesterday. Things got pretty busy and I lost track of time. The conversation here isn't over quite yet But yes, we've begun reaching out to a variety of groups in-world including educators, solution providers, adult content creators, estate owners and even some of the forum posters here. We really are quite serious in out attempts to get feedback.

SLACKER!!!!!!!!!!

Prepare to be impressed!

An issue we face and an issue we want to TRY and avoid is creating an arms race for filtering Adult words. It's not easy and it's not going to be 100%. The only thing we can do is try our best.

Good to see you here again Blondin - quite a few posts for you to wade through since your last visit.

Re. the feedback, are you able to say whether LL's focus is purely on getting views on implementation, or whether there is any scope for flexibility in your plans as a result of the the various opinions you receive?

Personally as a guy who enjoys a little change I think the grid merger will be quite entertaining and entertainment is why I keep logging in! well that and building stuff people say Second Life isn't a game because there are no set goals that you have to follow but I think it is a game because my goal is too build something really epic =) I'm thinking that when they finally do merge the two grids and I have it on GOOD word that it has already been decided by linden labs! The lag will get worse the trolling will continue and be raised to new levels of immaturity! I've got some friends on here who sim jump talk and have a good time that's really where Second Life seems to shine as a social networking tool! I mean you can spend a thousand dollars and make the ultimate barbie dream house mansion with working kitchen sink and a beautiful swimming pool outside but if you're alone its not really that much fun! Thank you to all the posting residents I enjoy and find wisdom in what you have to say!
Much love,
~^Jesse^~

LOL i was bad at Latin at school and i wanted to be acrurate as i could as i imagined my Latin Teacher moaning as he always did

Then you are a very selective observer. I know many escorts and dancers who also run highly successful SL businesses, ones not directly releated to sex. The most famous one is, of course, Anshe Chung, who began one of the largest private estates in SL with money she made on her back.

I have some fairly bizarre groups in my profile myself. But they do not "prevent" me from participating in "reputable mainstream organizations". I volunteer a good bit of my time to teach classes to newcomers at a couple of SL schools.

The sex trade isn't looked down on in SL to the same extent that you, and a few others, look down on it in RL. But even there, you are way over on the "squeaky clean prude" side of the spectrum. Did you know that the (highly reputable) school William and Mary hosts an annual "Sex Workers Art Festival"? Erotic art, and even performance art. A few people think this hurts the university's image...but the festival is highly popular and extremely well attended.

I hate sounding like a petulant ferret, but feedback is a two-way street.

OK everybody..get out your tin foil.. got your UFO replicas? I'm going CONSPIRACY THEORY and I'm TAKING you all with me!! WOOO HOO!! Grassy knoll! Grassy knoll!!

Now just to be clear - I'm sure some part of this is flat out wrong - I'm just not sure WHAT part of it.

Lets face it - SL residents are creative. And I'm not just talking, "make a pretty picture for the fridge" creative. I'm talking 'make a fridge that is powered by bouncing cannon balls off of roofs into baskets' creative. So LL might well be forgiven for underestimating the processing power desired by the average resident. Lets face it - they build a better mousetrap ya'll will build a better mouse, complete with radioactive carrots!

So lets pretend, for a moment, that you have come to believe that the underpinnings of SL - the basic structure of its programming - will never be able to catch up to the demands of its user base. That as it currently stands, you'll either have to scrap everything and start over completely, or figure out some way to lighten the load on the processors.

You have to admit that the whole 'business meeting' thing is an awfully darn sexy way to achieve that. Those areas are going to be used.. what.. twice a week maybe? And heck odds are good that many of the people using them will buy their clothes and such on XLStreet (kaching!) and do almost nothing to increase the load on SL while still pumping LL numbers. Score!

But of course to REALLY help things out you want to intersperse the barely-used areas across the grid so that it lightens the load as much as possible. And lets face it - you put Nany down next to a trollop like that Moon person and its even money which one is going to go screaming into the night. And heaven help the marmaset!

So, a little sweeping, a few lumps in the carpet and EVERYBODY'S happy right? And of COURSE Saddam had weapons of mass destruction or he'd have let the inspectors in right? By the way, where are we going and why are we in this handbasket?

My point is that I can see how a LL exec, surrounded by nodding bobble heads, might think this was a good plan on the face of it. And how the same exec might still be unaware of any lumps wiggling under the carpet because this lovely forum into which we vent our fears is ideal for keeping us all corralled and behind the bobble heads.

Maybe its time to start expressing some dissent elsewhere.

OK - ya'll can take off the hats now - I'm done *grin*

I saw that in the Post yesterday. Got me thinking that maybe next year we should see if they want to do something in-world. If the Lindens go through with the partitioning, then maybe some good can come out of it. Since it will create a safe area for adults to do all things dirty, why not make art out of it. Stream of consciousness here, has anyone from LL thought of contacting .. who is it.. Adult Video Press or whoever it is that does the adult entertainment awards to maybe stage a SL version? I wonder what would be more popular and bring in more income to LL... An online version of the detroit auto show.. or an online version of adult film awards? hmmm any guesses?

Patasha