Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Main Forum Thread

You or they CAN'T prohibit to stop shop selling bed with sex balls.
or skin showing nudity...
etc...

Too much information Nany. Shhhh... you're grossing me out.

The search engine is obviously broken when it's returning hits from Mature parcels in a non-mature search.

Until it is fixed, no adult policy will make any difference. It's a programming issue, not a content policy issue.

Several people here have argued that you cannot see explicitly sexual material unless you go looking for it. But you can. I have proven that, and now have re-proven it.

LOL!!!

That is hilarious.

Although I too wish a certain person would stop bashing us all over the head with posts of search terms, there is a good point to be found here:

If LL would enforce their current policies (making people mark mature content on mature parcels as mature, so it doesn't come up in vanilla searches!) instead of spending their time dreaming up new stuff, we wouldn't be having some of the problems we're having now with people inadvertently seeing things they find offensive.

Is it any wonder that some people get the impression that SL is all about sex when it's the first thing to come up when you search for most key terms, even when you actively try NOT to see mature listings? LL could have nipped that in the bud a loooong time ago!

I don't think anyone wants to stop the sale of sexually explicit objects and services. The plan is to restrict the advertising and sale of those things to only those people who want to see them.

where did you did that ? give links to a newbie, please
BTW, a passeport in france is almost 100 €, and to have to buy a passport in RL to be registred in SL is quite curious for me
I don't care about sending my personal ID copy to Linden, but it protect from nothing, as credit card protect for nothing, and anyway, they don't go in that system.

I can provide a sound file , attesting i'm over 18, for records .
But they don't seem to go that way.
So, in june, i will look for others sims, hopping that all my friends will do the same

So, if i understand you, a skin is explicit, because it's nude and can offend people ?
or is it just the sex bed ?

I deeply agree...
for me , it's just a way to force people to use their credit card, to give more money to the diying world

Adult grid new land new sims new markets now thats a idea lol

I'm not sure what the problem was, but I just age verified and found it to be a very simple and fast process. Enter real, name, real address, my choice of verification method with correct info, agree to terms, submit...Presto! verified in less than 5 seconds...and on a basic account.

1 minute later I was logged in and standing in the lot of a drive in theatre I knew had gone age verified.

As far as your opening statement, while I do whole-heartedly agree that the appeal of SL (at least to me) is that you can be anything/do anything, I just as whole-heartedly disagree that it should be 'anything goes' as you say, meaning people don't have the right to go around imposing their vulgar behavior on other people in any zone they happen to land in, PG, Mature or otherwise. Some stuff is just offensive no matter where you are.

You're own land? Fine, have at it, but keep in mind there is still an issue of CONSENT even among adults choosing to be involved in an alternate 3-D world. Some peoples idea of adult is a stripper on a pole in a thong who may lose her top. For others, it's graphic gore mixed with very violent sexual behavior.

Yea, sorry man. I gotta say there needs to be a way to know which you are walking into and a way to be reasonably protected from unwanted exposure to the later if that happens to be beyond what you can stomach seeing on your pc screen.

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The list goes on and on and on and on and on with poorly defined areas that should DEFINATELY be listed as mature. yet another reason why LL is doing this and these people are part of the problem instead of the solution.

It's not.

The problem is that LL is not ENFORCING the policy that mature parcels need to be tagged mature.

It's not.

The problem is that LL is not ENFORCING the policy that mature parcels need to be tagged mature.
Many people have said that. Nany didn't bring up that point, in fact Nany is determined to avoid recognizing it.

No, no-one has argued that you will not see explicit sexual material in search. Quite the opposite: people have pointed out that you will see such things in search even if you uncheck the mature flag which is a clear violation of the current rules. What people have argued is that enforcing the current rules about tagging mature content as mature is sufficient for cleaning up search.

What people *have* argued is that if you wander at random on the mainland, there is very little visible sexual material to accidently stumble upon. None of your posts have demonstrated that this is not the case.

Matthew

Well i hope eventually LL comes up with some answers to all these questions and a viable way for people to verify themselves as I hold that everyone should verify on the grid to be held more accountable than they are now.

I don't know what the big deal is about as it used to always be like that till 2006. I will never understand why they did away with payment info required when you join up and a fee. Maybe after the big capital injection LL got they were told now get more people on the grid so they did away with verification and now it has grown, its come back to bite them on the arse lol

Heck i think they should go back to charging a one off fee per alt for all i would pay it for each of our accounts if i had to but now SL for some is just seen as a freebie society where its everyones god given right that LL supplies them with an account and free access to the game.

Well lets just hope LL gives us some definitive answers these coming weeks

Actually, someone did argue that you will not see explicit sexual material in search without checking the Include Mature content option. Several people did. The argument is that no one will be confronted with explicitly sexual material in Second Life unless they ask for it, and that is simply not true.

The thing about wandering the mainland is true also. I may prove it later on.

I am worried Second Life will become "kiddy life" a place for children to learn and grow.

Why don't LL used three ratings G, R and X. It would be more in line with mainstream?

What will happen if the demand for "mature" land goes away? Will people get stuck with land that is unusable? How will Linden Labs "help" move "adult" business? Their possibly large investments will not be worth what they use to be and be unusable to them.

The more I listen to the "brown bag" meeting the more it seems that the new "adult" areas will be concentrated pervert areas.

The problem lies in the display size of the 'Zip/Post Code' field....which on first entering the web page is set to a default of 5 characters. Not large enough for a UK post code which is at least 7 characters.

However.....if you simply refresh the page....miraculously the 'Zip/Post Code' field changes to 20 characters !

LOL...how like SL coding that is. Must be the same coders.

BDSM, SEX, Gorean, Penis, Pussy, Clit, Cock, and ass will not require you to be varified to see those words in search. the sale of 99.9999999% pf all Adult in nature products will stay under mature. It is the act of using these items in public Linden is trying too curtail. Not the sale of them

Cite please. Alts of "Nany Kuyo" and people pointing out that you ALREADY can't see them unless the landowner is violating the ToS, a policy LL is not enforcing, don't count as cites.

Why did i just picture to hairy overweight Sailors going at it?

I've already posted a short list of offending parcels and places about the mature flag and have actually made it my mission for today to visit each place with overtly sexual themes and inform them that they should tick that little checkbox right below show in search that says MATURE CONTENT. so they don't show up in the PG search.

Yes, not only that, if LL is trying to "protect" the innocent "adults" (the non-children if there is such a word) who don't want to subject themselves to these so called "perverted behavior" or "suggestions", according to LL's logic, let's put them in a concentration camp and exterminate them so they don't get out of hand.

This means, according to LL's logic, if you are age-verified, then you will be flagged as a "pervert" because only perverts are allowed in the adult grids, right? In your profile, there should be a "pervert" flag check mark on it to identify these dangerous people in the society to keep those non-children safe.

The main goal of LL is to protect the non-perverts, like Nany, from any societal harm, so again, for the well-being of the community, these non-age-verified non-children would also be flagged as "non-pervert" in their profile, so the "perverts" should know better, and be warned that they need to keep their hands off of these age-unverifiable non-perverts.

So, the logic is:
* age-verifed = perverts (therefore allowed in the Adult areas)
* age-unverifiable = non-perverts (therefore not allowed in the Adult areas)

The assumption is:
* age-verified = unsafe, dangerous people that will do great harm to the society
* age-unverifiable = safe, harmless people like Nany who you can trust to leave your children to these individuals unsupervised by any parents

The goal is to protect these safe, harmless, age-unverified avatars in the main grid from the most dangerous predictors who are age-verified!

As an exercise for the readers, please finish the logic for me...

What was the point of age-verifying the avatars? To keep the age-unverifiable avatars safe from age-verified predators in the main grid?

If this makes any sense to you, then SL is an insane asylum.