Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Main Forum Thread

Adult grid new land new sims new markets now thats a idea lol

I think the plan is to prohibit the vendors from advertising at all to anyone who is not verified with permission to show adult content. It won't matter what search words they use. Only certain people will see the ads.

haha! No. Sex was great this morning, thanks.

Why does the thought of Nany trying to procreate turn my stomach so?

Enforcement ... will improve the climate for organizations and businesses outside the sex industry.

I've already posted a short list of offending parcels and places about the mature flag and have actually made it my mission for today to visit each place with overtly sexual themes and inform them that they should tick that little checkbox right below show in search that says MATURE CONTENT. so they don't show up in the PG search.

but it would require TWO to do that...

Separate the IBM corporate grid from the game-playland grid, and keep it that way.

The problem is LL tries to merge the corporate grid with mainland grid to make their corporate partners happy by cleaning up SL is what is driving this change.
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The only hope is that LL will lose money big time when everyone leaves, and it goes bankrupt and let someone else take over and do a re-organization from ground up.

That is the ONLY hope for real change. Period. It will really have to come to that point of bankruptcy to see any substantive change in LL.

Yet another avenue to get your thoughts heard on the LL changes to adult content...

Grim Couture, an up and coming SL mag, catering to the underbelly of the grid, is devoting a large portion of its inaugural issue to the proposed changes in the way AC and M content is treated in SL.

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Assumptions:

1. Search is broken.
2. Some people do not care to see anything involving an adult theme.
3. Underage people are gaining access to and using facilities on the main grid.
4. SL as conceived and implemented is an adult's only service.

Solutions:

1. Fix search. Enforce the ToS already in place so that "Mature" terms being used in non-mature searches are punished.

2. Make the new continent PG. Enact a voluntary move for all residents choosing to go there. Initiate a 1:1 land swap for their current land holdings with no tier incurred on either land during the move.

2a. Separate remaining PG parcels/sims attached to mainland and move them en masse and intact to be part of the new PG continent. Replace relocated sims with Linden protected land with a phased in auction over the next 6 months.

2c. Move all welcome area sims to the PG continent and strictly enforce the rules for PG areas. Require age/payment info verification in order to leave the PG continent for all new accounts.

3. Immediately end free/unverified accounts for the SL main grid.

3a. Conceive/enact a new age verification scheme that not only works, but also isn't invasive of data/information that most people are reluctant to provide online let alone a third party, and that also isn't illegal in some countries. Once such a system is in place, begin a phased in requirement that all accounts, not all ready verified, be verified within a given time period or leave SL. Anyone not verified within such a time frame will be suspended and ultimately deleted if failure to comply persists.

3b. Initiate a program allowing anyone with more than one account IE "Alt's" to register them to their primary account at no cost. Allow age/payment verification for the main account to propagate to all "Alt" accounts registered to that main account.

4. Institute an active and ruthless campaign to identify anyone who is underage on the main grid. Immediately delete the account of said individuals and anyone purposefully harboring them. (I personally have reported 2 sets of such individuals and yet the accounts are still active.)

Declaration:
The forced segregation of any segment or part thereof of any population within SL that has not been determined to have broken any rule is unacceptable. SL is an adult community and as such should be treated as such. People should take responsibility for their own actions and LL should take full responsibility for enforcing any and all rules laid out by them that have until this point been largely ignored.

The distinction between Mature and Adult content is nonsensical and not acceptable as by definition there is no such thing.

I personally vow to not agree, not assent and not comply with any rule or guideline that forces one group of individuals to curtail there business, life or experience or to suborn any of their rights to satisfy another when no law, rule or guideline has been broken. I hereby refuse to assist in defining what is or is not adult as it assumes that something is broken with the types of content that needs to be fixed.

Ultimately SL is a make believe community made of multiple parts and multiple personalities. It is not reality, To begin to treat is as such is ludicrous in and of its self. No violence, sex, death or other component to which one may or may not object, portrayed by Avatars can be remotely considered real.

While Linden Labs maintain that they do not wish to merge the main grid with the Teen grid, should such a desire become reality at any future date, implementing the PG continent now as outlined above would create a ready made environment with minimal further work needed to accomplish the goal.

Finally, with the exception of Linden owned land and Linden protected land, there is no such thing as "in public" in SL as all other land is owned by an individual regardless of the use that they may put it to or authorize it to be used for. As such no one has any right whatsoever to complain about anything seen on anyone's land or anything the owner may be doing with or on that land, provided that no rule, no law, and/or no guideline as iterated by LL has been broken.

If "cleaning up" the grid is what is sought as stated, then this is the only sensible way to do it in my opinion. Allowing the ADULT community to police and segregate its self as it see's fit is the only way to not create a bureaucratic and enforcement nightmare for the employees of Linden Labs.

Dear lady, I *am* a vampire, so I do get a bit... Bitey. Not so much as to make any visits to this Stepford place, however. Strictly a *liquid* diet.

-V-

I sadly agree with your point of view, it's a survival move.
and a quite suicidal move...
someone point out at the beginning of the first thread that it can be only to sold the whole thing ?
But, if they do that to survive, or if they do bankruptie, will it be better for future ? I'm not sure for either solution.
lag, disconnections, unknow creators which put your fps from 50 to 3 (terminated account for clothe's creator, for exemple) all those things throw people away from Sl.
May be it's the whole economical system which is to be redraw from scratch.
as google have done it :
search engine, free
gmail, free
google talk, free
google earth , free
picassa, free
blog, free
etc.. except for some corporate and real professional features.

all is paid by advertising. and with one thing in mind: we are the free one, we should stay the free one and find solution for that .
sorry to be out of topic, but in 3 years, i have seen what i didn't want to see with SL... because, it's a second life, a "real" SL which unfortunately depend on real people, and, as years go by, it seem that i will see the end of it, because they don't remember their basics, but just try to save the furniture...

Why does the thought of Nany trying to procreate turn my stomach so?

Touché.

Sorry, Nany... Fingers don't count.

They already have them, try placing an advert with the word "loli" in it. You already have to select whether or not your advert has mature content in it.

If there is still a Linden reading this thread ...

PLEASE CONSIDER THIS IDEA AND REPLY ...

In the SL Preferences box, please simply put an area of selection where a member can check off whether they want to enter a PG region or a Mature region. If they check PG, they wouldn't be able to teleport into a Mature region, nor cross the border into a Mature region. (Perhaps you would use a simple "Location not allowed" popup.) VOILA! Putting this in Preferences makes it as easy to choose one's SL experience as it does choosing whether to allow audio, video or voice to load or not load.