You guys still going on about this?
/me is not, though I'm still watching.
Kinda tired of feeling jerked around.
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Sindy Tsure
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03-29-2009 21:01
You guys still going on about this? /me is not, though I'm still watching. Kinda tired of feeling jerked around. |
Kator Bergson
I'm freakin out man!
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03-29-2009 21:02
Hm. Even the User-Manual of my washing machine isn't that complex than these two *huge* documents you've introduced. It seems one has to be an administration-pro, to manage such a BDSM relation. I thought often, to try that BDSM thing. But all the paper work...-all the complex remote control functions to make the toy working properly... and ever the obligation to have the contract-paragraphs in mind... hmmm, hmmm, hmmm This to read made me happy, that I've chosen to play the vampire role occassionally. Just sneaking slowly and silent behind ones back, focus on neck of the object, and: done. And when in hurry: the good old trichlormethan method (chloroform), then grabbing the droopy victim and flying away. And the best thing in vampire mode is: we can lie, being corrupt and making intriques all day long, wich is a big part of a vampires social life. (wich is also a common behavior of a specific company, wich we all know very well, too - *waves to the lab*) This BDSM thingy is way too serious and honest, from my view seen ![]() It could be used as a fair constitution for whole nations, so much serious it looks. But for me it looks like garlic and a cross and a silver bullet. To precise that: it looks like a Linden TOS. hehehehe ![]() This stuff is only if your Dead set to try the real thing instead of the casual approach most people take to it that don't understand the actual underlying truths to it all. |
Wynochee LeShelle
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I know
03-29-2009 21:14
This stuff is only if your Dead set to try the real thing instead of the casual approach most people take to it that don't understand the actual underlying truths to it all. I twinkert a bit ![]() Serious seen it's a good way to prevent misunderstandings between the 2 protagonists and even to have an insurance that it is a consensual relation, in case Nanys and KGB- agents watching with popped-up AR formulars on screen. |
Kator Bergson
I'm freakin out man!
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03-29-2009 21:29
I twinkert a bit ![]() Serious seen it's a good way to prevent misunderstandings between the 2 protagonists and even to have an insurance that it is a consensual relation, in case Nanys and KGB- agents watching with popped-up AR formulars on screen. ell-oh-ell.... hahahahaha. KGB... Now its called Soviet Military Intelligence... >.< |
Nany Kayo
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03-29-2009 21:57
You guys still going on about this? Do you not realize the coding has been done already for what LL is implementing? The coding was in progress for some time before they announced this? Seems to me this is quite a waste of time really. Linden Lab is going to do whatever it is they had in mind all along. But by all means enjoy your ad hominen festival rofl. : ) It passes the time. |
Nany Kayo
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03-29-2009 22:08
With all of the sin, violence, evil and sadness in the real world, I have to wonder at the motives, agenda and possibly, the sanity of anyone who wants to clean up a virtual world? The only people who are there want to be there, one has to consciously choose to be there, just as one consciously chooses whether or not to rent a porn movie, or go to Intelligent Design meetings. When one is in-world, one has the option of ignoring anything not relevant to their personal beliefs, philosophy, sexuality etc. and staying far away from anything that may possibly offend them, just like in real life. I can't wait until the day a Wahabbi Muslim logs into the all new sanitized PG SL for the first time, and is absolutely outraged by the virtual "fresh meat" walking around sans hijabs and birkhas. You see, it's all relative. As LL is so very fond of noting, the content of this world was created by its residents, non-conformists all, who saw SL as a platform for many different levels of experimentation, sex included. The result was a vibrant world filled with creativity and little or no constraints. Unfortunately, corporate progress these days seems to be measured by how much has to be given up. Consider why the vast majority of the population of the world isn't constantly trying to mold it into their own image, and keep a low profile for the most part: unlike the missionaries and Do-Gooders. they understand that the world works best on a laissez-faire system of the Golden Rule, and nobody likes self-righteous busybodies. Oscar Wilde was quoted as saying: "Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live." I think he nailed it. yer stupid, and I hope unemployed and homeless. or at least yer whole frakking useless waste of oxygen family |
Nany Kayo
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03-29-2009 22:16
With all of the sin, violence, evil and sadness in the real world, I have to wonder at the motives, agenda and possibly, the sanity of anyone who wants to clean up a virtual world? The only people who are there want to be there, one has to consciously choose to be there, just as one consciously chooses whether or not to rent a porn movie, or go to Intelligent Design meetings. When one is in-world, one has the option of ignoring anything not relevant to their personal beliefs, philosophy, sexuality etc. and staying far away from anything that may possibly offend them, just like in real life. I can't wait until the day a Wahabbi Muslim logs into the all new sanitized PG SL for the first time, and is absolutely outraged by the virtual "fresh meat" walking around sans hijabs and birkhas. You see, it's all relative. As LL is so very fond of noting, the content of this world was created by its residents, non-conformists all, who saw SL as a platform for many different levels of experimentation, sex included. The result was a vibrant world filled with creativity and little or no constraints. Unfortunately, corporate progress these days seems to be measured by how much has to be given up. Consider why the vast majority of the population of the world isn't constantly trying to mold it into their own image, and keep a low profile for the most part: unlike the missionaries and Do-Gooders. they understand that the world works best on a laissez-faire system of the Golden Rule, and nobody likes self-righteous busybodies. Oscar Wilde was quoted as saying: "Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live." I think he nailed it. That was then. This is now. Now, we are slipping into a world wide economic depression. Please get yer head out of yer ass. or at least get the hell out of the way. |
Waterstar Eilde
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03-29-2009 22:26
That was then. This is now. Now, we are slipping into a world wide economic depression. Please get yer head out of yer ass. or at least get the hell out of the way. Wow, I wish I'd been quicker and archived the original response, with its 'yer a frakkin idiot' comment and wishing that Tweed's family was dead or at least homeless. I wonder who was leaning over whose shoulder and telling them to edit that post quick smart? Patasha, can this REALLY be the person you heard presenting at the VW-BPE panel discussion? I wonder what she'd think if she knew how disgracefully her avatar was being used in these forums? |
Grady Vuckovic
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03-29-2009 22:31
*Someone's comments on the current thread subject, opinions, followed by sexual pun and offtopic remark.* *Grady Vuckovic counters comments, and puts forth arguments against opinions stated, and retorts sexual pun with another even more overtly sexual pun, and another offtopic remark.* :emoticon: ((I couldn't actually think of something to say which hasn't been said hundreds of times already, so just fill in that post with your own imagination)) OFF-TOPIC NOTE: Wooo! 4200! ... 5000? _____________________
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23rdDjin Negulesco
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03-29-2009 22:34
Wow, I wish I'd been quicker and archived the original response, with its 'yer a frakkin idiot comment' and wishing that Tweed's family was dead or at least homeless. I wonder who was leaning over whose shoulder and telling them to edit that post quick smart? Patasha, can this REALLY be the person you heard presenting at the VW-BPE panel discussion? I wonder what she'd think if she knew how disgracefully her avatar was being used in these forums? must be one of those new innovations in education. it's no wonder people are getting more and more insufferably unintelligent if this is the type that's responsible for education. |
Katheryne Helendale
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03-29-2009 22:38
the problem lies in the use of panadol. it might be best to switch to dammitall. ![]() http://kazantsevat.com/index.htm/ _____________________
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03-29-2009 22:45
5 REM "Name the programming language and get a virtual cookie" 10 START "off topic rant"; 20 PRINT " For the people talking about BDSM... Take it from somebody who knows the rules and read on... The following is a PROPER D/s contract which offers much insight on how we act and behave and why. And the Best way to understand your submissive is to give them one of these (caution there are some strong sexual terms in this) With these two documents there is ZERO mis-understanding between the Dom and thier submissive. As well as a better bond is formed between the two with this knowledge. If you notice from the contract itself (read it CAREFULLY... it IS a contract after all...) is that it is meant to be a learning experience and not purely sexual but also spiritual. 30 PRINT "Do you finally understand?":;INPUT A$ 40 IF A$ = "Yes" GOTO 60 50 IF A$ = "No" GOTO 10; ELSE GOTO 10 60 END "off topic rant" ?SYNTAX ERROR AT LINE 20 Ahhhhh, I remember my BASIC days, so long ago... _____________________
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23rdDjin Negulesco
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03-29-2009 22:45
i changed the name to avoid the risk of accusations of product placement...
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Milla Janick
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03-29-2009 22:46
Patasha, can this REALLY be the person you heard presenting at the VW-BPE panel discussion? I wonder what she'd think if she knew how disgracefully her avatar was being used in these forums? Yeah, I saw that original reply, too. If it's not her using these forums, she really, really needs to get a handle on her co-workers and let them know their actions here reflect very poorly on her organization. _____________________
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Katheryne Helendale
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03-29-2009 22:51
Not sure, Patasha. I am hoping someone on their team is paying more attention to all the details than I am. My priorities are the same as ever. This policy seems to fit. I want to see a few people, hopefully some Indians, make enough money using this tool to stay alive and keep their families alive. These are hard times. Life is not just a game anymore. Nany: If Native American (I can't believe you of all people would use the term "Indian" ![]() _____________________
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Grady Vuckovic
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The boy who cried 'Offensive'.
03-29-2009 23:09
/me walks in and sits down on a stool with a book, and slowly opens it, placing her 'granny' style reading glasses on.
"Once upon a time, there lived a man, in a small village.. His name was Richard Harris, but everyone just simply called him, Dick. Dick was easily offended though.. One day, the man decided to go out to the shops, to buy a loaf of bread. As Dick stepped outside though, he saw a giant flying penis going just above his head, flying through the town. Dick was offended.. The man decided to go to his city council, and with them, had a new law put in place, saying no one was allowed to construct anything even resembling a flying penis, or something named after a penis. And anything that was, should never be allowed out in public... and this law was to be enforced heavily. Dick felt much better after this, and left, heading towards the shops. Passing sad flying penis makers along the way, who were put out of business. Dick wasn't bothered though, he was happy, he was no longer offended. As Dick reached the store, he was greeted at the front counter by a lady, who introduced herself. "Hello, my name is Mary, I own this bakery. How can I help you?" Dick, smiled and stood proudly, "Hello Mary, I'm Dick, I came to buy some bread". But the woman just shook her head, and replied, "I'm sorry, but I can't serve you". Dick's expression slowly skewed into confusion as he listened, "But, why? Have you no bread?". The woman shook her head once more, and sighed, "I can't, because of a new law. A man was offended early today by a flying penis. After that, they introduced a series of new laws. So now all things that resemble, or are named after, or relate to a penis, are not allowed in any public place. I advise you hurry home, before someone else sees you", with that, the woman closed her counter window. Dick walked home, slowly, upset, and without bread. Now no longer allowed outside his home, and only in private places, since he now had become something that was considered offensive..." ((Don't ask me why, but I thought it might be entertaining for us to have a short story about this. Yea, I'm bored.. moral of the story was meant to be: You complain about things that offend you, eventually it comes back to bite you in the ass)) _____________________
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jack30 Devin
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adult and teen areas
03-29-2009 23:45
where are the teens now?
seems it would be better to migrate the adults to the teens area then to bring wild teens with less scrupples about getting into mischief into an adult area. this is the best chance that LL has right now of fixing mainland issues. 1. create a new continent 2. add infrustructer roads,parks,with street names and addresses.adding lots for buildings and such that are able to be owned and rented out or governed for profit. 3.create zone ordinance residential, buisness, and industry. 4. smallest lot available would be 512m and have accses to at least one side at all times Ie. street alley or pathway. this is the time to do it right LL its not the sims game but a actual model for other areas of mainland to idea upon. Jack30 |
23rdDjin Negulesco
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03-29-2009 23:50
/me walks in... -edit- ((Don't ask me why, but I thought it might be entertaining for us to have a short story about this. Yea, I'm bored.. moral of the story was meant to be: You complain about things that offend you, eventually it comes back to bite you in the ass)) or: "don't be a dick" |
Grady Vuckovic
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03-29-2009 23:52
or: "don't be a dick" That too! ![]() _____________________
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Sredni Eel
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03-30-2009 00:16
*off topic post*
Thanks Nany, for getting me interested in searching for Native American artwork and clothing on Xstreet. I now have a spectacular flexi eagle feather head dress, a nice pair of buckskin beaded pants, some eagle feather leg and arm bands, a breast plate, and and awesome pair of Cherokee sculpty moccasin boots. I believe the costume is a mix of different tribes, but it all comes together so nicely. And damn, I look HOT as a semi-naked Native American Warrior Chief. *on topic post* At this point, I think the Lindens have given up on this forum, as they have all the information they need to proceed with their original plans. We all have some great ideas on how best to make this world work, but I don't see a lot of Linden participation in this thread, or Linden agreement that, yes, turning Ursula into a PG continent would be a better plan. Age verification should be a non issue. If you're a paid member, it can safely be assumed that you're (at least) adult enough to be on the adult grid. Frankly, considering many kids are having sex at 12 years old and younger, I don't see how cartoon sex and violence can corrupt them any further than they already are. It's not up to us to police the kids. It's up to their parents. If the parents don't care that their kids are seeing cartoon sex and violence, why should we? Either those parents are lazy, or they trust their kids to know the difference between fantasy and reality. Take your pick. As far as search coming up with X Rated terms, it would be a non issue if Linden actually took the time to hire people to enforce the mature content rules that have been in place for at least the year and a half I've been inworld. But they don't have the manpower for this, just as they don't have the manpower to enforce their own rules against people using other people's accounts to log into the world and/or forums. The whole "adult content" argument is an extremely slippery slope. You can define and define, but by whose definitions? One person may think nudity is fine. Others believe if you even show your hair that it's an affront to God. Still others think the virtual world should remain the same as it always was: unfettered, populated by adults only, and fantastic in the sense that you can bend any fantasy to become something you've always dreamed of. While I do realize some people are here to make money and do business, yadda yadda, this is, ultimately, a fantasy world. It's the Internet. You can block all the websites you want so your employees actually do their work during the day, but sooner or later, they're going to find loopholes in your Utopian world. I still maintain that if you don't like something in Second Life that you have several options: 1. Mute someone who offends you. 2. AR people who break ToS. 3. TP away from whatever bordello of blood, sex, bondage, what have you, that offends you. 4. Ignore stuff in search you aren't interested in looking at. 5. Turn off the computer for a while, step outside, and enjoy a sunny day. Nobody forces you to TP to those locations you find in search. Don't like seeing the word "Sex"? Sorry, but it's everywhere, even in the real world. Nobody's forcing you to have sex, cyber or otherwise, if you don't like it. Nobody forces you to watch porn. And if sometimes you run into someone roleplaying out loud (which I rarely do, in spite of working at a BDSM club), either mute them, or ask them politely to keep it in IM. Second Life is not that hard, folks. There are tools all over the place to take care of even the most sensitive of the "Vanilla" people out there. It's amazing just how well those tools work. "I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now, what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me." - Grampa Simpson _____________________
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Couldbe Yue
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03-30-2009 00:19
5 REM "Name the programming language and get a virtual cookie" 10 START "off topic rant"; 20 PRINT " For the people talking about BDSM... Take it from somebody who knows the rules and read on... The following is a PROPER D/s contract which offers much insight on how we act and behave and why. And the Best way to understand your submissive is to give them one of these (caution there are some strong sexual terms in this) With these two documents there is ZERO mis-understanding between the Dom and thier submissive. As well as a better bond is formed between the two with this knowledge. If you notice from the contract itself (read it CAREFULLY... it IS a contract after all...) is that it is meant to be a learning experience and not purely sexual but also spiritual. 30 PRINT "Do you finally understand?":;INPUT A$ 40 IF A$ = "Yes" GOTO 60 50 IF A$ = "No" GOTO 10; ELSE GOTO 10 60 END "off topic rant" try the alt.com checklist instead - it's a lot more comprehensive. that list of yours is missing a lot of the basics. People use second life in many different ways. Even when I started in 2006 there were papers floating around on the types of people who use it. The two main ones were the immersives and I can never remember what they were called but basically the emo/facebook crowd who treat the platform as another element of their real life (you see them around still.. these are the ones who do the a/s/l stuff) We all get something different from the platform, no amount of blindsightedness to this fact is going to change it. Sneering at people who don't like or understand what you like and implying that they don't understand what adult is is narrow minded in the extreme. Calling it a fantasy is also demonstrating a wilful misunderstanding. People can and do get hurt in here. Remember, there are still people behind the keyboard. There's a big difference between putting yourself in a position where you witness things and having no choice in what you see is what we are talking about here. On so many different levels. Self regulation - which is what we're pushing for here means understanding the types of people who will be around you in certain situations and adjusting your behaviour accordingly. If your Aunty Mabel came into SL, would you behave in front of her in the same way you would if you with the people you normally hang out with? Unlikely I would think. Mabel has as much right to be here as anyone else. Fantasy or not, we're in a community with many different tastes, ages, cultures and experience ranges. The one thing about it is that we have to rub along with each other, so the attitude of "I'll do what I want, when I want" has to be left at the login screen. If we didn't all believe that we'd have not problem with the trolls and griefers that infest SL. Their attitude is the same. |
Wynochee LeShelle
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Fridge
03-30-2009 00:21
That was then. This is now. Now, we are slipping into a world wide economic depression. Please get yer head out of yer ass. or at least get the hell out of the way. The content of my fridge sends no signals about a depression. Also toilet-paper is still available in supermarkets. As long THAT is the case, is there no depression, nowhere. I, personally, will start to be depressed, when toilet-paper is out here in Austria (no, we have NO kangaroos here - the other thing is called Australia - they have kangaroos, Nany) and the national US - botox-storage, silicon-storage and ladyshave-equipment storage will be rationated. This could then be a sign for a starting depression, when flocati-rugs starting to grow under the shrugs of women like it was common body fashion in the good old 70's, mmmm. *Points on skin-makers: build that!, please!, shaved skins are boring!* Even Linden Lab is actual extreme happy and in festival mood. As long they find time and energy to joke and mess around with their customer base and as long they are able to send us high skilled capacaties like Blondin " I have order to don't know anything - what would you suggest" Linden, is all roger on board. No need to hit the alarm button. My only problem is, that they like to castrate, sterilize and desex us, to give the Nanys of the world the climax of their life. But ok: most genital attachments are modify and copyable. I can stretch the prims up to 10x10 meters, copy them and build quadratic modern lofts and bungalows out of them and from the glans-sculptie I will build cushions for my brandnew PG couch... - that makes possible to live with and in and on open public visible xcite tools in the middle of a PG region without catching troubles from the bible-belt crusaders. Ah, so subversive. I will name that thing then: The Woody House, even while it will look analog to the famous Farnsworth House from the world-famous architect Mies van der Rohe, 1951. This is recycling, huh?! I do invite you for a virtual coffee or a cup of green tea then, hehehe ![]() Ah before I forget: even today again the slogan of the day for the laboratory-management: don't drink water! Fishes had sex in it! Drink sand! |
Kator Bergson
I'm freakin out man!
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03-30-2009 00:22
?SYNTAX ERROR AT LINE 20 Ahhhhh, I remember my BASIC days, so long ago... Cookie for you, and a special brownie for pointing out the error. lol, blame the forums for that one... >.< |
Phoenix Welles
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03-30-2009 00:34
aaaaah... the weekend is over and I can hope for some answers.
![]() 1. for those of us who will have to move... is there a signup sheet ready? if not is there a mailing list to let us know when the signup sheet will be ready?? ![]() 2. I'd love to see the current definitions of adult. thanks 3. since the new viewer was blogged about, do we have any other timeline 3a. is there going to be an update to the firstlook viewer as well since I like the functionality of SLim? thanks ![]() |
Baldtraveller Shan
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The removal of offensive religious content.
03-30-2009 00:41
Please do not take this as a joke.
But I and thousands of others are offended greatly by the religious content found in secondlife and would like to see it join the XXX continent if not its own. I find the constant badgering by those of faith to be more directly intrusive on my daily experience in secondlife than the vampire Bloodline biting annoyance. If it’s offensive content that is being moved then this has to be seriously looked at as part in parcel with the XXX content. |