Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Main Forum Thread

No, because that's possible.

Well I am upset now. Greatly upset.


I missed watching the 4000th post happen.. *Sighs*...

As for Nany, I honestly can't believe she's STILL here.

But anywho. Things like roleplaying a slave and master when going out shopping.. how is that any different to seeing a person pretending to be a super hero? Or seeing a person roleplaying being a vampire, furry, etc etc.. It's all just fun, NOT REAL, little games that people do for entertainment. People do them in other games too, in Runescape (long long long time ago I use to play), I would pretend to be a miner when people asked me. IT WAS FUN. I certainly wasn't a real miner, and it certainly didn't bother folks when I did some mining out in the public.

If you have a problem with seeing these things, LEAVE SL. Because everyone in SL is entitled to roleplay out their own fantasies, despite what other people like and don't like.

As for the mature parcels coming up in the PG search. Well as it's been said probably a 1000 times already: THIS POLICY WILL NOT CHANGE THAT AT ALL. LL IS NOT CHANGING HOW THEY WILL MANAGE SUCH THINGS. THAT WILL BE EXACTLY THE SAME AS IT IS NOW. THE PROBLEM IS LACK OF ENFORCEMENT, OF RULES THAT ALREADY EXIST TO PREVENT THAT.

And I'll have you know, that I own a few places, and I recognise most of the things that happen in my sim are mature, so I marked the entire sim as 'Mature'.

And keep in mind folks. Even if these things come up in the search, that's all they are doing! It's displaying a short blob of text that sayes, "Come here to have sex". If that's all it takes to offend you, then clearly your either not an adult, or just too uptight.

BAM. Done. Not saying any more on the issue. Those who have a problem with SL can just deal with it or get out, because the problem isn't with the "Sex industry", it's with LL's poor management of the system they already have in place. Either convince LL to fix how they filter the search results or give up and leave SL!

Honestly I dont care if it says come here to have sex but thats not whats here. You see words like fu*k sh*t Pus*y cu*t and all sorts of non-right-wing terms popping up in the non-mature search and technically these words in and of themselves ARE mature rated. (movies mark strong lanugage as mature and so do video games around the globe) and should NOT be seen outside of a MATURE search.

(I'm all for mature things in sl btw and I am not bashing these people directly but they ARE THE PROBLEM and not part of the SOLUTION by posting themselves up like this just to get some more traffic...)

Just like the henamations ad at the top of SLX on almost everypage... I don't care how good thier animations are as they are just as guilty of being part of the problem and not the solution to this issue of classifying thier content PROPERLY which is one of the reasons why the hammer is coming down so hard on adult themes within SL.

The Lindens are also a part of the problem for not enforcing their own policy. They have allowed this to happen and have now made it.. OUR problem.

Isn't this comment against the SL Terms of Service?

Patasha, Linden Lab specifically cites changes to Search filtering as one of three key motivations for this policy change. Why do you suppose they did that?

I was slightly mistaken on the definition of PIU. An account that is PIU does not necessarily have payment information currently on file. It only marks an account that had payment info on file at one time and used it to purchase something (thanks, Spunke).

How will this affect age-verification through payment information? Is PIU going to require current payment information on file? Or will the PIU status itself be sufficient?

/me lays down in the corner, taking a couple of panadol and sipping water, while rubbing her sore head... x_x;

/me lays down in the corner, taking a couple of panadol and sipping water, while rubbing her sore head... x_x;

Patasha, Linden Lab specifically cites changes to Search filtering as one of three key motivations for this policy change. Why do you suppose they did that?

If there is still a Linden reading this thread ...

PLEASE CONSIDER THIS IDEA AND REPLY ...

In the SL Preferences box, please simply put an area of selection where a member can check off whether they want to enter a PG region or a Mature region. If they check PG, they wouldn't be able to teleport into a Mature region, nor cross the border into a Mature region. (Perhaps you would use a simple "Location not allowed" popup.) VOILA! Putting this in Preferences makes it as easy to choose one's SL experience as it does choosing whether to allow audio, video or voice to load or not load.

Please consider this idea! All in favor? Reply by quoting this post and hopefully we'll get a real Linden answer.

I, Name Witheld, with a free mind and an open heart; do request of Kator Bergson/RL Name Witheld that He accept the submission of my will unto His and to take me into His care and guidance, that W/we may grow together in love, trust and mutual respect. The satisfaction of His wants, desires, and whims are consistent with my desire as a submissive to be found pleasing to Him. To that end, I offer Him use of my time, talents, and abilities. Further, I ask, in sincere humility, that, as my Master, He accept the keeping of my body for the fulfillment and enhancement of O/our sexual, spiritual, emotional, and intellectual needs. To achieve this, He may have unfettered use of my body any time, any place, in front of anyone; to keep or to give away, as He will determine.

I ask that He guide me in any sexual, sensual, or scene-related behavior, both together with, and separate from Him, in such a way as to further my growth as a person.

I request of Kator Bergson/Name Withheld, as my Master, that he use the power vested in His role; to mold and shape me; assisting me to grow in strength, character, confidence, and being, and that He continue to help me to develop my artistic and intellectual abilities.

In return, I agree:

To obey His commands to the best of my ability.

To strive to overcome feelings of guilt or shame, and all inhibitions that interfere with my capability to serve Him and limit my growth as His submissive.

To maintain honest and open communication.

To reveal my thoughts, feelings, and desires without hesitation or embarrassment.

To inform Him of wants and perceived needs, recognizing that He is the sole judge of whether or how these shall be satisfied.

To strive toward maintenance of a positive self-image and development of realistic expectations and goals.

To work with Him to become a happy and self-fulfilled individual.

To work against negative aspects of my ego and my insecurities that would interfere with advancement of these aims.

My surrender as a submissive is done with the knowledge that nothing asked of me will demean me as a person, and will in no way diminish my own responsibilities toward making utmost use of my potential. In recognition of my family obligations, nothing will be required of me that will in any way damage or harm my children, nor interfere with the performance of my duties as mother and as wife.

This I, Name Withheld, do entreat, with lucidity and the realization of what this means, both stated and implied, in the conviction that this offer will be understood in the spirit of faith, caring, esteem and devotion in which it is given.

Should either of U/us find that our aspirations are not being well served by this agreement, find this commitment too burdensome, or for any other reason wish to cancel, E/either may do so by verbal notification to the O/other, in keeping with the consensual nature of this agreement. W/we both understand that cancellation means a cessation of the control stated and implied within this agreement, not a termination of O/our relationship as friends and lovers. Upon cancellation, each of U/us agrees to offer to the other H/his or her reasons and to assess our new needs and situation openly and lovingly.

This agreement shall serve as the basis for an extension of O/our relationship, committed to in the spirit of loving and consensual dominance and submission with the intention of furthering self-awareness and exploration, promoting health and happiness, and improving both O/our lives.

I offer my consent to submission to Kator Bergson/Name Withheld under the terms stated above on this the 1st day of November in the year 2008.

SL Name:
RL Name:
Signature of Submissive

I offer my acceptance of submission by Name Withheld under the terms stated above on this the 1st day of November in the year 2008.

SL Name: Kator Bergson
RL Name:
Signature of Dominant

Submissive BDSM Play Partner Check List


This checklist should be filled out by a Sub and provided to their Dom/Top before playing with them. This will provide a quick "head-start" to identifying limits, negotiating and finding common ground for play.

For each item, you need to provide two answers:

For experience, write YES or NO next to each item to indicate if you have ever DONE that activity. Mark N/A if it does not apply to your gender.
For willingness, indicate for each item how you feel about DOING that activity by rating it on a scale of NO or 0 to 5.
"?" means you don't understand what the item is attempting to describe.
NO means you will NOT do that item under any circumstances (a hard limit).
0 (zero) indicates you have utterly no desire to do that activity and don't like doing it (in fact, may loath it) and would ordinarily object to doing it, but you would permit the Dominant to do it if it they really wanted it. (sometimes called a "soft limit".
1 means you don't want to do or like to do this activity, but wouldn't object if it was asked of you.
2 means you are willing to do this activity, but it has no special appeal for you.
3 means you usually like doing this activity, at least on an irregular/ occasional basis.
4 means you like doing this activity, and would like to experience it on a regular basis.
5 means the activity is a wild turn-on for you, and you would like it as often as possible.
Mark with an asterisk those items which you are willing to do only with your current sex partner(s), but not with casual play-partners.
Note any additional information or nuances which might be important for your Dom to know in the margin to the right. For example under diapers you might wish to distinguish between "wetting" and "soiling".
There is intentionally some overlap between categories. Unless otherwise stated, the Sub is the recipient/target of the activity.

Experience, Willingness Notes & Nuances
yes/no, NO or 0-5

Age play
Anal sex
Anal plugs (small)
Anal plugs (large)
Arm & leg sleeves (armbinders)
Bathroom use control
Beating (soft)
Beating (hard)
Blindfolds
Being serviced (sexual)
Being bitten
Boot worship
Bondage (light)
Bondage (heavy)
Bondage (public, under clothing)
Breast/chest bondage
Breast whipping
Cages (locked inside of)
Cattle prod (electrical toy)
Cells/Closets (locked inside of)
Chains
Chores (domestic service)
Cock rings/straps
Collars (worn in private)
Collars (worn in public)
Cross-dressing
Cuffs (leather)
Dildoes
Double penetration
Erotic dance (for audience)
Exhibitionism (friends)
Exhibitionism (strangers)
Eye contact restrictions
Face slapping
Fantasy abandonment
Fantasy rape
Fantasy gang-rape
Fear (being scared)
Fisting (anal)
Fisting (vaginal)
Following orders
Food play (cucumbers, sorbet...)
Foot worship
Forced dressing
Forced homosexuality
Forced masturbation
Forced nudity (private)
Forced nudity (around others)
Forced servitude
Gags (cloth)
Gags (rubber)
Genital sex
Given away to another Dom (temp)
Given away to another Dom (perm)
Hair pulling
Hand jobs (giving)
Hand jobs (receiving)
Harems (serving w/other subs)
Harnessing (leather)
Harnessing (rope)
Having clothing chosen for you
Head (give fellatio/cunnilingus)
Head (recv fellatio/cunnilingus)
High heel wearing
High heel worship
Hot waxing
Housework (doing)
Human puppy dog
Humiliation (private)
Immobilization
Intricate (Japanese) rope bondage
Interrogations
Kidnaping
Kneeling
Leather clothing
Leather restraints
Lectures for misbehavior
Licking (non-sexual)
Lingerie (wearing)
Manicures (giving)
Massage (giving)
Massage (receiving)
Modeling for erotic photos
Mouth bits
Nipple clamps
Nipple rings (piercings)
Nipple play/"torture"
Nipple weights
Oral/anal play (rimming)
Over-the-knee spanking
Orgasm denial
Orgasm control
Outdoor scenes
Outdoor sex
Pain (mild)
Pain (medium)
Pain (severe)
Persona training (in scene)
Pony slave
Public exposure
Punishment Scene
Pussy/cock whipping
Pussy worship
Riding crops
Restrictive rules on behavior
Rubber/latex clothing
Rope body harness
Saran wrapping
Sensory deprivation
Serving
Serving as furniture
Serving as a maid
Serving as waitress/waiter
Serving orally (sexual)
Serving other doms (supervised)
Serving other doms (unsupervised)
Sexual deprivation (short term)
Sexual deprivation (long term)
Skinny-dipping
Slutty clothing (private)
Slutty clothing (public)
Spandex clothing
Spanking
Speech restrictions (when, what)
Spreader bars
Standing in corner
Stocks
Straight jackets
Strap-on-dildos (sucking on)
Strap-on-dildos (penetrated by)
Strap-on-dildos (wearing)
Strapping (full body beating)
Suspension (upright)
Suspension (inverted)
Suspension (horizontal)
Supplying new partners for Dom
Swallowing semen)
Tattooing
Teasing
Tickling
Triple penetration
Uniforms
Including others
Vaginal dildo
Verbal humiliation
Vibrator on genitals
Voyeurism (watching others)
Voyeurism (your Dom w/others)
Video (watching others)
Video (recordings of you)
Wearing symbolic jewelry
Whipping
Wooden paddles
Wrestling



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Willingness quick-key:
? Don't understand this item.
* I will do with current sex partner only.
NO I WILL NOT DO that item under ANY circumstances (a hard limit).
0 No desire, don't like, will permit if special to Dom (a soft limit).
1 Don't want to do, but will.
2 Willing to do, but has no special appeal.
3 Usually LIKE doing, on an irregular/ occasional basis.
4 LIKE doing, would like it on a regular basis.
5 WILD TURN-ON, would like it as often as possible.


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This is really telling I think of how absolutely cluless LL is abot their product and how it is used by a lot of it's users, and in fact one of it's strongest attractions.

A virtual world where you can be almost anything, do almost anything you can imagine, and the want to make it more predictable???????

BECOME PART OF THE SOLUTION AND STOP ARGUING ABOUT THE PROBLEM. Lets give LL one less reason why this is a good idea to them by checking our own statuses and fixing them.

Very true and they need to police the grid like they used to when Philip was in charge. Know how many lindens I saw if I filed a report about a griefer? I'll be damned if one wasn't on scene in less than 10 minutes to handle the protaginst quickly and efficently.
Now-a-days, when the hell do you see the fabled "G-Team" flying around protecting the peace? Never. its a novel idea with no grounds and no public coverage or appearance.



No it isn't. Because its freedom of speech and freedom of speech doesn't stop where your rigid intolerance of other people begin.

That comment was more a internal observation and had no direct damaging content that was pointed towards you.
I.e. "Nany Sucks" or "Nany having sex? Yeah right probally with a pig"
would be Hateful terminology if not used as purely a example.

and I do mean example as you have seen I have actually tried to get people off your back and as well attempted to get you off other peoples back as I really take no side in the matter however you go a little far saying what you have said about that comment and stretching the ruleset laid down by LL to fit your frame of mind doesn't work that way.

Again, a wise person thinks over thier opinions and thoughts before they put them to paper (or in this instance a forum post. So think before you post, because if you have nothing to contribute you waste cpu cycles processing the post for everybody who reads it. CPU cycles take power and you are wasting power that can be directed elsewhere. Should I say your damaging the enviroment with your posts that are nonsensical and meaningless? Yes I should and yes I shall. STOP DOUBLE/TRIPLE POSTING!)

Because they realized the old one one broken, most people here, even you, have said. The debate is on their 'fix'... What words constitute Mature which constitute adult. Is the word SEX, adult or mature? If adult, then what about something such as an academic paper "Determining Sex within the first forty-eight hours of gestation." Kind of defeats the purpose of creating a space for academic institutions is you block their material from dissemination.

The problem Nany, is the current Search has been gamed, and LL has done nothing to stop it. Now LL states they have a new Search coming, and people want to know, How are they going to keep this one from being gamed, when they didn't enforce standards with the last one?

You continually claim this proposition as a panacea for all manner of ills. But if you would step back and look at what LL is proposing on fixing with this, and their history of enforcement of standards previously, you might have a few questions yourself.

Such as, given the thousands upon thousands of parcels on mainland, and the limited number of Lindens on the 'g-team'.. what is LL going to do if residents basically ignore this? Is this going to take the same form of 'resident informer' as they had with the "Broadly Offensive" campaign, we all remember how well that worked out of LL. If people just ignore tagging their items as mature or adult for search, what is LL going to do to enforce it? Why aren't they doing that now?

Patasha

You got no sense of humor.

You guys still going on about this?

Do you not realize the coding has been done already for what LL is implementing?
The coding was in progress for some time before they announced this?

Seems to me this is quite a waste of time really.

Linden Lab is going to do whatever it is they had in mind all along.

But by all means enjoy your ad hominen festival rofl.

Yea, been saying that for ages, they aren't listening to us, they stopped ages ago. They didn't even care what we thought at the start, why would they now?

We're just bitchin to get this out of our system.

5 REM "Name the programming language and get a virtual cookie"
10 START "off topic rant";
20 PRINT "
For the people talking about BDSM... Take it from somebody who knows the rules and read on...
The following is a PROPER D/s contract which offers much insight on how we act and behave and why.


And the Best way to understand your submissive is to give them one of these (caution there are some strong sexual terms in this)


With these two documents there is ZERO mis-understanding between the Dom and thier submissive. As well as a better bond is formed between the two with this knowledge. If you notice from the contract itself (read it CAREFULLY... it IS a contract after all...)
is that it is meant to be a learning experience and not purely sexual but also spiritual.
30 PRINT "Do you finally understand?":;INPUT A$
40 IF A$ = "Yes" GOTO 60
50 IF A$ = "No" GOTO 10; ELSE GOTO 10
60 END "off topic rant"

You guys still going on about this?

Do you not realize the coding has been done already for what LL is implementing?
The coding was in progress for some time before they announced this?

Seems to me this is quite a waste of time really.

Linden Lab is going to do whatever it is they had in mind all along.

But by all means enjoy your ad hominen festival rofl.