I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it has to be currently on file.
yes thats correct once a card has been put on file then stopped the account remains PIOF

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Lord Sullivan
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03-29-2009 07:07
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it has to be currently on file. yes thats correct once a card has been put on file then stopped the account remains PIOF ![]() _____________________
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Lord Sullivan
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03-29-2009 07:08
Nearly - but not much further forward... ![]() But will it be or you ![]() _____________________
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Valerius Constantine
*I* am adult content!
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03-29-2009 07:09
Unfortunately you are sadly mistaken. It was not struck down as I will yet again point to this, http://www.allbusiness.com/government/3922531-1.html(thanks for the idea of the image tags whoever said it.) Ummm that article was from 2006. they've ruled on that case, I believe. ![]() -V- |
Waterstar Eilde
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03-29-2009 07:10
But will it be or you ![]() I'm magnanimous - let it be you! ![]() |
Lord Sullivan
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03-29-2009 07:11
I'm magnanimous - let it be you! ![]() LOL it was you ![]() _____________________
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Valerius Constantine
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03-29-2009 07:14
...it works best at fullmoon and when I find a fitting neck to sink in my vampire-fangs... *thinking on Nany* (back to stoic mode) Eeewwwww! Man, bet she'd give a vampire's *grandma* a stomach-ache! probably tastes like lint too ![]() -V- |
Ceera Murakami
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Formal Call For Change Of Representative
03-29-2009 07:15
I would like to formally call for a change of representation on the Linden Staff for the person in charge of hearing Resident suggestions and representing Linden Policy.
Blondin Linden has clearly demonstrated that he is NOT listening, even to himself. No matter what is said, Blondin does NOT concede any validity to any point that does not agree with the predetermined goals and methodology. That is not representation or discussion. It is stonewalling. I want to talk to a different representative for the company. Escalate to tier 2 customer support, please. Tier 1 has failed. _____________________
Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
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Waterstar Eilde
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03-29-2009 07:20
I would like to formally call for a change of representation on the Linden Staff for the person in charge of hearing Resident suggestions and representing Linden Policy. Blondin Linden has clearly demonstrated that he is NOT listening, even to himself. No matter what is said, Blondin does NOT concede any validity to any point that does not agree with the predetermined goals and methodology. That is not representation or discussion. It is stonewalling. I want to talk to a different representative for the company. Escalate to tier 2 customer support, please. Tier 1 has failed. Seconded - I'm tired of feeling like we're banging our collective head against a virtual wall, not to mention being insulted by the pretence of seeking feedback when it appears there's no intention of taking any of it on board. |
Ryanna Enfield
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03-29-2009 07:22
I would like to formally call for a change of representation on the Linden Staff for the person in charge of hearing Resident suggestions and representing Linden Policy. Blondin Linden has clearly demonstrated that he is NOT listening, even to himself. No matter what is said, Blondin does NOT concede any validity to any point that does not agree with the predetermined goals and methodology. That is not representation or discussion. It is stonewalling. I want to talk to a different representative for the company. Escalate to tier 2 customer support, please. Tier 1 has failed. I want the Employee or Employees leading this charge within the Labs to step forward and start communicating and answering our questions. I want them reading these forums and acknowledging their Customers, the SL Community. Transparency goes a very long way. _____________________
~*Ryanna Enfield*~
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Kara Spengler
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03-29-2009 07:27
Drat! Missed the 4000th post explaining how idiotic this proposal is!
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Valerius Constantine
*I* am adult content!
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03-29-2009 07:34
"Warning, you are entering Second Life. Second Life is rated R, for: - Strong frequent intense sex scenes - Strong frequent course language - Strong frequent drug use - Adult themes - Horror themes - Extreme frequent gore - Interspecies sex - Strong frequent large flying penis's - Frequent Linden sightings - Strong course LSL scripting - Strong frequent bad spelling - Strong frequent bad grammer - Strong frequent bad punctuation. - Strong frequent bad humor - Strong frequent bad emoting - Strong frequent complaining Nany's - Furries - Humans - Those who refuse to be either - That guy, behind you about 20m's, who's been looking at you all night, and has that big hat on, hiding his face, acting all creepyish.. - More large flying penis's - Strong frequent crashes - Lack of array's in scripting language - Very frequent crashing - More crashing - Frequent teleport failures - Frequent teleport failures followed by crashing - Frequent crashing followed by crashing - NO BLOODY ARRAY'S IN LSL! - Grady Vuckovic - Chickens Do you wish to proceed? [Yes] [No]" Sprays soda all over keyboard "Chickens!? Nooooooo!" -V- |
Spunke Slade
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03-29-2009 07:35
If the card is not on file..regardless of PIU, you are not verified. The card information has to be there.
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Ceera Murakami
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03-29-2009 07:35
Case in point, Residents have repeatedly asked for information on how LL arrived at a figure of only 2% to 4% of content being affected by this change. Blondin insists the numbers are valid, but will not offer one shred of evidence to support that assertion.
At the same time, Blondin includes strip clubs as part of the "overtly sexual" content that would have to be flagged as Adult. If a stripper dancing on a pole and NOT performing a sex act is "Adult" then certainly 100% of the pose balls that depict explicit sex are also adult. Even if you clearly exclude "residential use", the sheer number of sex pose balls on the mainland today that are in publicly accessible locations and not in anything resembling a "residential setting" far exceeds a 2% to 4% figure, unless you only count the pose ball prims, and not the entire content of the parcel they are on! Blondin has also repeatedly stated that ANY "Sexually themed" area is to be tagged as "Adult". There are many such areas that are part of people's residential parcels. If those are also included, it doesn't leave many of the parcels in Mature sims on the mainland untouched. Blondin's continued blindness to these contradictions makes it abundantly clear that they are either unwilling or incapable in regards to actually seeking any sort of acceptable agreement or compromise on this course of action. You can't discuss a plan if you are unwilling from step one to ever say the words "We were wrong on that point". _____________________
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Ryanna Enfield
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03-29-2009 07:40
If the card is not on file..regardless of PIU, you are not verified. The card information has to be there. Which in the context of Age-Verification doesn't make sense. As much as I'd like, I cannot reverse my age. Would love to lose a few years. _____________________
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Kator Bergson
I'm freakin out man!
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03-29-2009 07:43
I would like to formally call for a change of representation on the Linden Staff for the person in charge of hearing Resident suggestions and representing Linden Policy. Blondin Linden has clearly demonstrated that he is NOT listening, even to himself. No matter what is said, Blondin does NOT concede any validity to any point that does not agree with the predetermined goals and methodology. That is not representation or discussion. It is stonewalling. I want to talk to a different representative for the company. Escalate to tier 2 customer support, please. Tier 1 has failed. I'm bored, I'll do it. lol Hey LL, you got a willing victim...err... I mean volunteer! |
Kara Spengler
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03-29-2009 07:47
If the card is not on file..regardless of PIU, you are not verified. The card information has to be there. I wish they would clarify between PIU and PIOF and age verified! Both of my accounts are PIU. One can enter age-verfied plots and the other can not. |
Qie Niangao
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Huh
03-29-2009 07:52
If the card is not on file..regardless of PIU, you are not verified. The card information has to be there. |
Kara Spengler
Pink Cat
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03-29-2009 07:53
BTW, does anyone know how you become PIOF if you are 'just' PIU? I always thought they were synonyms as to become PIU you enter your CC info for them to keep on file.
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Kator Bergson
I'm freakin out man!
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03-29-2009 07:55
well while on the toilet (I do some of my best thinking there) we need to make signs and stuff and stand outside LL's city hall area (wherever the heck it is now... >.<
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Waterstar Eilde
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03-29-2009 08:01
What is the source of this information? I have to admit, there appears to be an element of ambiguity in what we've been told. On 12 March, Blondin said: The idea is that there will be multiple ways to become verified. You will be considered adult verified if you have payment info with Linden, payment info with Xstreet or a verified Paypal account. I believe that the Paypal accounts will satisfy some of the comments by Europeans. If you already have payment info on file with Linden or any of the above, you will be considered adult verified. A little over an hour and a half later, he said: If your credit card is already on file, then you have nothing to worry about. There's an implication here that the credit card info needs to be current, rather than previously used but with the information now deleted. A current credit card is, of course, tied to a current address, just by way of observation - not that I foresee this would help confirm age, but it adds more information to the database (ever the skeptic, I'm afraid). |
Minx Eisenhart
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03-29-2009 08:07
Just don't force me to join the game by using me as a witness You know what i hate: People chating in public and even worse using voice in Public!!!!!!!! (How Dare they Ruin my shoppin experance with there personal dribble!!!!!!!) If the role of submisive and Dom is part or their daily life and consentual while remaining non sexual; you have no right to tell them how to ack, what to say, or say they are forcing you to witness it. its just like any other public chat and as a rational being you have the will to ignore it an move on or act irational and make a scene. _____________________
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Ceera Murakami
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03-29-2009 08:10
RE Payment info: Updating PayPal info or credit card info does not do anything necessarily to change address, so no, the address one has on file is not necessarily current. You may have a chance to change your address or other info when deleting and adding new payment method info, but you don't have to.
I was still "Payment Info Used" on a handful of my accounts even though my credit card info had expired. I had replaced that card with a new one with a different number, from the same bank, and the old one was no longer valid at all. Those accounts were still "Payment Info Used" during the several days while I fought with their system because it refused to accept my verified PayPal info or the first credit card that I tried to use. I finally managed to enter a different card that they would accept, the newest one. Lucky for me I have several to choose from. _____________________
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Waterstar Eilde
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03-29-2009 08:13
RE Payment info: Updating PayPal info or credit card info does not do anything necessarily to change address, so no, the address one has on file is not necessarily current. You may have a chance to change your address or other info when deleting and adding new payment method info, but you don't have to. I was still "Payment Info Used" on a handful of my accounts even though my credit card info had expired. I had replaced that card with a new one with a different number, from the same bank, and the old one was no longer valid at all. Those accounts were still "Payment Info Used" during the several days while I fought with their system because it refused to accept my verified PayPal info or the first credit card that I tried to use. I finally managed to enter a different card that they would accept, the newest one. Lucky for me I have several to choose from. True - I guess I was thinking of the situation of my alt, where I removed the information once the profile showed Payment Info Used. Then the cheeky minx decided to buy land, so I had to put it back again! |
Waterstar Eilde
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03-29-2009 08:16
The fact that we still have so many more questions than answers, though, just illustrates how far we've come to get nowhere
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Agnetha Vuckovic
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Age Verification DOES NOT WORK for Europeans
03-29-2009 08:17
I cannot believe people are even having any of these discussions, when as things stand the crap SL age verification system DOES NOT WORK for anyone outside of the USA.
How many times does this have to be pointed out in this blog ???? This whole situation is a FARCICAL JOKE......as some sites are already switching on age verification in anticipation of changes.....and thus forcing people to try to use a 'Beta' age verification system that doesn't work. Lindens.....GET YOUR ASS IN GEAR !!! Why are you even discussing changes when the mechanisms to implement them don't even work yet ?? |