Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Main Forum Thread

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LIE! Damnable lie I say. I can count on my piercings the number of Lindens I've sighted in 2.5 years.

/me votes that this be printed out in 100pt font taped to a white board sitting on Mitch's desk, then duct tape Mitch to his chair and tape his eyes open until he gets it.

Patasha

"Warning, you are entering Second Life. Second Life is rated R, for:
- Strong frequent intense sex scenes
- Strong frequent course language
- Strong frequent drug use
- Adult themes
- Horror themes
- Extreme frequent gore
- Interspecies sex
- Strong frequent large flying penis's
- Frequent Linden sightings
- Strong course LSL scripting
- Strong frequent bad spelling
- Strong frequent bad grammer
- Strong frequent bad punctuation.
- Strong frequent bad humor
- Strong frequent bad emoting
- Strong frequent complaining Nany's
- Furries
- Humans
- Those who refuse to be either
- That guy, behind you about 20m's, who's been looking at you all night, and has that big hat on, hiding his face, acting all creepyish..
- More large flying penis's
- Strong frequent crashes
- Lack of array's in scripting language
- Very frequent crashing
- More crashing
- Frequent teleport failures
- Frequent teleport failures followed by crashing
- Frequent crashing followed by crashing
- NO BLOODY ARRAY'S IN LSL!
- Grady Vuckovic
- Chickens

Do you wish to proceed? [Yes] [No]"

"Warning, you are entering Second Life. Second Life is rated R, for:
- Strong frequent intense sex scenes
- Strong frequent course language
- Strong frequent drug use
- Adult themes
- Horror themes
- Extreme frequent gore
- Interspecies sex
- Strong frequent large flying penis's
- Frequent Linden sightings
- Strong course LSL scripting
- Strong frequent bad spelling
- Strong frequent bad grammer
- Strong frequent bad punctuation.
- Strong frequent bad humor
- Strong frequent bad emoting
- Strong frequent complaining Nany's
- Furries
- Humans
- Those who refuse to be either
- That guy, behind you about 20m's, who's been looking at you all night, and has that big hat on, hiding his face, acting all creepyish..
- More large flying penis's
- Strong frequent crashes
- Lack of array's in scripting language
- Very frequent crashing
- More crashing
- Frequent teleport failures
- Frequent teleport failures followed by crashing
- Frequent crashing followed by crashing
- NO BLOODY ARRAY'S IN LSL!
- Grady Vuckovic
- Chickens

Do you wish to proceed? [Yes] [No]"

None of this is going to make the slightest difference to the corporate machine which is LL.
you people built SL, now they want it back.
you dont mean a thing to them.
this forum means nothing, this post mean nothing.

i really thought the lindens were a cool bunch of people at one time, with a cool philosophy but i was fooled, you were fooled, we all were.
have a nice day.

I really wish that people would actually inform themselves before getting involved in a debate...
<many concrete examples of what LL *will* do snipped>

The day I find a whole squid coming from someone's crotch....

If you relocate my land, mall and club, will it not be bunched together with the same thing clubs, malls, sex places... Will my competition be able to cam over and invite my people to their place? How can anyone of us survive if we are all clumpted together.

So, the definition would be that kinky uses a tentacle, but perverted uses the whole squid?

-V-

[2009/03/25 15:26] Connecting to in-world Voice Chat...
[2009/03/25 15:26] Connected
[2009/03/25 15:27] Blondin Linden:
[2009/03/25 15:27] Gavin Hird: Hi Blondin, all
[2009/03/25 15:27] Katheryne Helendale waves
[2009/03/25 15:27] Jumpman Lane: er hi
[2009/03/25 15:27] Minx Eisenhart: Halllooooo
[2009/03/25 15:27] Herne Diker: hi blondin
[2009/03/25 15:27] Blondin Linden: Just a heads up / my SL has been wonky today so if I crash, I'll be back
[2009/03/25 15:27] Katheryne Helendale hopes Blondin has bears : )
[2009/03/25 15:27] Katheryne Helendale: EVERYONE's SL has been wonky today
[2009/03/25 15:28] Spunke Slade: oo bears
[2009/03/25 15:28] Catriana Ninetails: Can I start with a topical question, Blondin?
[2009/03/25 15:28] Kyle Steig waves to Blondin. "happy to provide any necessary demonstrations of overt with Minx and Civ as lab assistants. More if you want to see it in full effect." ; )
[2009/03/25 15:28] Herne Diker: I saw whole sims drop into the sea today
[2009/03/25 15:28] Blondin Linden: Blondin does have a bear
[2009/03/25 15:28] Blondin Linden gave you Blondin Bear 08.
[2009/03/25 15:28] Minx Eisenhart: if ou crash will you be putting in for over time?
[2009/03/25 15:28] Katheryne Helendale: *mews*
[2009/03/25 15:28] Blondin Linden: We'll see
[2009/03/25 15:28] Katheryne Helendale: ty : )
[2009/03/25 15:28] Bloody Shinn needs linden
[2009/03/25 15:28] Catriana Ninetails: Does the Lab have "adult Content" in mind that they are working from as a starting point?
[2009/03/25 15:28] Civlet Moody: you still haven't paid my drycleaning bill from the last demonstration, kyle
[2009/03/25 15:29] Katheryne Helendale: o.O
[2009/03/25 15:29] Jumpman Lane: lol
[2009/03/25 15:29] Blondin Linden: Well, I thought today we talk about how to denfine Adult, what you all think in terms of a difference between Mature and Adult
[2009/03/25 15:29] Minx Eisenhart: well lets get the party started
[2009/03/25 15:29] Kyle Steig: Civlet, I told you, just wear the clothes stained. It sends a message to future would be playmates.
[2009/03/25 15:29] Jumpman Lane: i think there is no diff
[2009/03/25 15:29] Spunke Slade: ..there is no diff
[2009/03/25 15:29] Jumpman Lane: in what dictionary is there one
[2009/03/25 15:30] Minx Eisenhart: so what do you think Blondin would the name and content of my store be overt?
[2009/03/25 15:30] Velaici Yifu: o gee
[2009/03/25 15:30] Catriana Ninetails: Does the Lab have "adult Content" in mind that they are working from as a starting point?
[2009/03/25 15:30] Minx Eisenhart: its a clothing store none animations or sex poses or anything
[2009/03/25 15:30] Civlet Moody: why not just use the ESRB ratings? http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp
[2009/03/25 15:31] Katheryne Helendale: Is ESRB internationally recognized?
[2009/03/25 15:31] Herne Diker: has the definition expanded past blatent sexual things
[2009/03/25 15:31] Blondin Linden: [15:30] Catriana We have a broad definition in mind
[2009/03/25 15:31] Blondin Linden: but no Hern
[2009/03/25 15:31] Minx Eisenhart: from what i gathered Overt is labeld adult
[2009/03/25 15:31] Blondin Linden: Yeah I can hear it
[2009/03/25 15:31] Blondin Linden: but its getting lsot
[2009/03/25 15:32] Katheryne Helendale: I think the biggest problem with trying to define what adult is, is that even things normally not considered adult can be in certain situations, and vice versa
[2009/03/25 15:32] Blondin Linden: Yes Minx, thats sort of the direction we're heading
[2009/03/25 15:32] Catriana Ninetails: Question.... Is nudity in and of itself overtly sexual in the Labs opinions?
[2009/03/25 15:32] Jumpman Lane: i dont understand the distinction between adult and mature, why not a rating systme like movies x r pg-13
[2009/03/25 15:32] Blondin Linden: Overtly Sexual, violent
[2009/03/25 15:32] Blondin Linden: No, nudity itself would not be Adult
[2009/03/25 15:32] Minx Eisenhart: overtly sexual is mature
[2009/03/25 15:32] Jumpman Lane: that's half the grid
[2009/03/25 15:32] Spunke Slade: i do
[2009/03/25 15:32] Catriana Ninetails: What about nudist clubs?
[2009/03/25 15:32] Herne Diker: adult or blatent, your not talking of moving all adult things now are you
[2009/03/25 15:32] Jumpman Lane: mature doesnt suffice?
[2009/03/25 15:32] Blondin Linden: but it really depends on what the person is doing
[2009/03/25 15:33] Jumpman Lane: what is mature then
[2009/03/25 15:33] Kyle Steig: Most of what I have said since I have arrived has been positively slathered in double entendre.
[2009/03/25 15:33] Civlet Moody: overtly sexual and vioent behavior can and does occur rather spontaneously even in PG/welcome ares
[2009/03/25 15:33] Minx Eisenhart: Illciti would be adult
[2009/03/25 15:33] Katheryne Helendale: Would clubs where dancers such as I get naked for tips be considered adult?
[2009/03/25 15:33] Spunke Slade: /352/1.html
[2009/03/25 15:33] Kyle Steig: My profile talks about slaves I own.
[2009/03/25 15:33] Catriana Ninetails: no sex balls, no balls of any sort...just nude dancing
[2009/03/25 15:33] Catriana Ninetails: nude haging out
[2009/03/25 15:33] Spunke Slade: hell my name can be considered "adult"
[2009/03/25 15:33] Jumpman Lane: hi marianne : p
[2009/03/25 15:33] Marianne McCann smiles
[2009/03/25 15:33] Blondin Linden: Clubs with dancers would not really be adult. CLubs were dancers get naked would be adult in my views. THoughts?
[2009/03/25 15:34] Herne Diker: hi miss mccann
[2009/03/25 15:34] Jumpman Lane: what is mature then
[2009/03/25 15:34] Marianne McCann: Hiya
[2009/03/25 15:34] Ciaran Laval: Strippers should not be sent off to the adult continent no
[2009/03/25 15:34] Catriana Ninetails: how is a naked dancer more adult than a picture of a skin you can buy?
[2009/03/25 15:34] Blondin Linden: Mature is the majority here in SL.
[2009/03/25 15:34] Gavin Hird: Hi Mari
[2009/03/25 15:34] Spunke Slade: i couldnt have my name
[2009/03/25 15:34] Toy LaFollette: nakie I suspect in a club woiuld remain M but not rooms where a dancer could take part in more
[2009/03/25 15:34] Blondin Linden: The skin is just an object
[2009/03/25 15:34] Civlet Moody: not wearing a burqua or hijab is overtly sexual to some
[2009/03/25 15:34] Herne Diker: I'm curious too naked dancing is not overt in my eyes
[2009/03/25 15:34] Jumpman Lane: im rEALLY lost
[2009/03/25 15:34] Katheryne Helendale: What about landing naked in a PG infohub? ; )
[2009/03/25 15:35] Jumpman Lane: u take away violence and sex what its left that is mature
[2009/03/25 15:35] Kyle Steig: Blondin, please consider the possibility that trying to define WHAT you consider adult is a an unnecessary distraction from how you plan to implement the filtering. I know a guy who was SL banned for 24 hours for a black and white sillhouette SL snap of him in profile with an erect penis. It's a recipe for disaster if you don't simply define the sanitized area as G-rated and *EVERYTHING* else as adult.
[2009/03/25 15:35] Spunke Slade: i wear a collar
[2009/03/25 15:35] Spunke Slade: my sub wears one in real life
[2009/03/25 15:35] Jumpman Lane: that makes sense
[2009/03/25 15:35] Civlet Moody: sorry. turning off voice. it will not make the transcript. and i find giggling counterproductive
[2009/03/25 15:36] Ciaran Laval: You've got this whole plan arse about backwards, setup a PG continent. Then everything starts getting easier to define
[2009/03/25 15:36] Blondin Linden: Jump, we're not taking sex and violence out of mature. But the overly sexual and extremely violent
[2009/03/25 15:36] Herne Diker: inside a building where personal choice brings you inside
[2009/03/25 15:36] Catriana Ninetails: so is overtly meaning ACTIONS? in you opinion, Bl;ondin?
[2009/03/25 15:36] Spunke Slade: but you cannot define overly and extreme
[2009/03/25 15:36] Veronica2vixen Devoix: he is the one that say our new kind of AO is bad??
[2009/03/25 15:36] Katheryne Helendale: Me walking down the street sucking on a banana could be construed as extremely sexual
[2009/03/25 15:36] Jumpman Lane: i think we shop at the ska\me places : p
[2009/03/25 15:36] Civlet Moody: Korea 1-4 is a more hideously violent and overtly sexual place than most of the stripper/bdsm clubs
[2009/03/25 15:36] Blondin Linden: Yes, I suppose Overtly would mean actions
[2009/03/25 15:37] MystressAnna Lovenkraft: would mean actions in public
[2009/03/25 15:37] Jumpman Lane: wil the whole grid fit on the new continent ?
[2009/03/25 15:37] Blondin Linden: overtly would be an area that is based around and advertises on the theme of sex
[2009/03/25 15:37] Jumpman Lane: that's the name
[2009/03/25 15:37] Jumpman Lane: overtly
[2009/03/25 15:37] Jumpman Lane: ur kiddin
[2009/03/25 15:37] MystressAnna Lovenkraft: so Gor BDSM and RP
[2009/03/25 15:37] Kyle Steig raises his hand asking for a number to ask two brief questions and remians otherwise silent.
[2009/03/25 15:38] Civlet Moody: what if its a discrete sex club though... one that doesn't advertise but isn't members only with ban lines etc
[2009/03/25 15:38] Ciaran Laval: If it's actions and you're exempting private homes the whole thing has no credibility, you can't define this Blondin so it's best to stop wasting timke trying to do so and instead deal with making the adult continent attractive to those who voluntarily want to move there
[2009/03/25 15:38] Catriana Ninetails: OK...well here is a question Blondin... many BDSM practitioners DO NOT feel that BDSM is "sex"
[2009/03/25 15:38] Spunke Slade: BDSM itself is not sex
[2009/03/25 15:38] Katheryne Helendale: BDSM itself isn't sex....
[2009/03/25 15:38] Katheryne Helendale: It has strong sexual overtones, but is not itself sex
[2009/03/25 15:39] Spunke Slade nods
[2009/03/25 15:39] Blondin Linden: a discrete sex club would still be a club based in and around the trade of sex. If found, they would have to move
[2009/03/25 15:39] Catriana Ninetails: So BDSM clubs, being not "sexual" would be exempt if no penetrative poseballs were present?
[2009/03/25 15:39] Jumpman Lane: wht is the definition of a clb
[2009/03/25 15:39] Civlet Moody: the disconnect is in trying to define a more mature than mature threshhold. it just cant be done. at some point you have to accept that if you can buy your own insurance and enter into contracts, you're going to get an eyefull of something you didn't want
[2009/03/25 15:39] Ciaran Laval: Which is just silyl Blondin, you cannot define this, stop trying to do the impossible.
[2009/03/25 15:39] Jumpman Lane: i mean what about a personal dungeon
[2009/03/25 15:39] Spunke Slade: ok, so by that statement, it would be easier for LL to make a PG land, not adult land
[2009/03/25 15:39] Jumpman Lane: on the mainland
[2009/03/25 15:39] Blondin Linden: there may not be actual sex in BDSM but from my understanding its still sexual isn't it?
[2009/03/25 15:39] GreenKnight Kaul: so what you are essentially saying clean up or move, whether thats to the new continent or out of SL completely
[2009/03/25 15:39] Jumpman Lane: would that be adult or an offshoot of a home
[2009/03/25 15:40] Herne Diker: I hope this is not step one to trying to integrate the teen grid here
[2009/03/25 15:40] Minx Eisenhart: why not allow overtly sexual and movie ilicit matiral to the adult sim
[2009/03/25 15:40] Jumpman Lane: its se
[2009/03/25 15:40] Katheryne Helendale: Leading slaves around is not a sexual act
[2009/03/25 15:40] Catriana Ninetails: not necessarily, Blondin
[2009/03/25 15:40] Spunke Slade: it can be sexual, but not always
[2009/03/25 15:40] Jumpman Lane: sex
[2009/03/25 15:40] Ciaran Laval: Of course it's easier for LL to make PG land, it's the most sensible solution but this seems to be more about PR than common sense
[2009/03/25 15:40] Minx Eisenhart: just my clothing right now is by all means overtly sexual
[2009/03/25 15:40] Catriana Ninetails: there CAN BE sex in BDSM, but it is more about control and power exchange
[2009/03/25 15:40] Spunke Slade: but that would be better PR for them to make a PG sim
[2009/03/25 15:40] Blondin Linden: more mature Minx
[2009/03/25 15:40] Minx Eisenhart: Take Go-go clubs with Cages and Dance poles
[2009/03/25 15:40] Spunke Slade: an area they KNOW has nothing "bad" on it
[2009/03/25 15:41] Blondin Linden: Yes, I jsut saw that post MInx on the forum and I responded to it
[2009/03/25 15:41] Minx Eisenhart: there not strip clubs those dance apperatiuses just ad the the invorment
[2009/03/25 15:41] Ciaran Laval: It's not good to those outside SL Spunke, they'd still be told it's full of sex and violence
[2009/03/25 15:41] Blondin Linden: I wouldn't classify that as a strip club. Someone dancing in a cage at a club is different than a room full of people watching someone take their clothes off.
[2009/03/25 15:41] Jumpman Lane: that makes more sense a pg land
[2009/03/25 15:41] Jumpman Lane: a pg mainland
[2009/03/25 15:41] Civlet Moody: this is why i get back to the ESRB. they define adult as anything that you need to be over 18 to play... ie.... all of Second Life
[2009/03/25 15:42] Minx Eisenhart: so where where the line be drawn?
[2009/03/25 15:42] Spunke Slade: i think a petition should go out to do the pg land insted of uprooting all of sl and moving them
[2009/03/25 15:42] Catriana Ninetails: Strippers are SUGGESTIVE, not overtly sexual
[2009/03/25 15:42] Katheryne Helendale mumbles... As a strip-dancer, I so often feel like I'm part of the scenery and not the focal point of the event....lol
[2009/03/25 15:42] Minx Eisenhart: say the go go club is slow and theres a girl on the pole and two guys watching
[2009/03/25 15:42] Jumpman Lane: oh yeah
[2009/03/25 15:42] Spunke Slade: well based on TOS you agreed you were 18
[2009/03/25 15:42] Minx Eisenhart: the club gets ARed and moved
[2009/03/25 15:42] Blondin Linden: Strippers suggest sex
[2009/03/25 15:42] Minx Eisenhart: when its not a strip club
[2009/03/25 15:42] Jumpman Lane: esrb WOULD classify ALL of sl as adult
[2009/03/25 15:42] Herne Diker: stripper suggest sex
[2009/03/25 15:42] Catriana Ninetails: but suggestive is NOT overt
[2009/03/25 15:42] Spunke Slade: yes
[2009/03/25 15:42] Katheryne Helendale: exactly
[2009/03/25 15:42] Veronica2vixen Devoix: hey so my profile i cant sugest that>>
[2009/03/25 15:43] Catriana Ninetails: a SEX SHOW is overt
[2009/03/25 15:43] MystressAnna Lovenkraft: a Mini skirt als osuggest Sex
[2009/03/25 15:43] Kyle Steig: All of SL *is* Adult. That's why there's a teen grid and an over 18 rule here.
[2009/03/25 15:43] Katheryne Helendale: I will never have sex with my audience, ever!
[2009/03/25 15:43] GreenKnight Kaul: two naked men kissing, overt?
[2009/03/25 15:43] Veronica2vixen Devoix: how about booty shorts
[2009/03/25 15:43] Jumpman Lane: i have a question blondin
[2009/03/25 15:43] Indigo Mertel: Hi
[2009/03/25 15:43] Veronica2vixen Devoix: that over there has a tatoo
[2009/03/25 15:43] Jumpman Lane: why the moving of sex off the mainland anyways
[2009/03/25 15:43] Minx Eisenhart: but what happens when the Go-go club is near empty cept for one dancer and two guys who happen to be watching?
[2009/03/25 15:43] Jumpman Lane: i mean what is the purpose
[2009/03/25 15:43] Jumpman Lane: the point
[2009/03/25 15:43] Jumpman Lane: violence too
[2009/03/25 15:43] Veronica2vixen Devoix: on her behind and has a booty short so im sopos a tatoo on the lower back sugest sex also?
[2009/03/25 15:44] Jumpman Lane: who goes to the mainland by chice ANYWAYS
[2009/03/25 15:44] Minx Eisenhart: does the owner of the club have to remove the poles and cages when its not a full house?
[2009/03/25 15:44] Blondin Linden: What about the idea of Intent in terms of the definitions? Shouldn't we take the intent of the content creator in
[2009/03/25 15:44] Herne Diker: strippers suggest sex means what that you consider that overt? thats plum loco in SL
[2009/03/25 15:44] Jumpman Lane: explorers?
[2009/03/25 15:44] Catriana Ninetails: Why doesn't linden labs give us a list of proposed "adult Content" to go through and agree or not agree to?
[2009/03/25 15:44] Katheryne Helendale: amen
[2009/03/25 15:44] Jumpman Lane: there is no disticntion betwee adult and mature really
[2009/03/25 15:44] Ciaran Laval: No there's not Jumpman and trying to make the distinction is bordering on the absurd.
[2009/03/25 15:44] Spunke Slade: there is no distinction betweent the two because they are one and the same
[2009/03/25 15:45] Catriana Ninetails: the woman who created my dance poles did not likely intend that they be considered overtly sexual, Blondin
[2009/03/25 15:45] Jumpman Lane: pickin uselsse nits ciaran
[2009/03/25 15:45] Blondin Linden: what would the list look like cat?
[2009/03/25 15:45] Jumpman Lane: definitly is
[2009/03/25 15:45] Spunke Slade: If Congress cant seperate, what makes LL think they can
[2009/03/25 15:45] Katheryne Helendale: It would look like what LL already considers adult, and then we could pick at it line by line from there
[2009/03/25 15:45] Civlet Moody: mainland has a lot of utter crap but it IS a wonderfully social as well as serene place to explore. try driving the linden roads or sailing the waters around nautilus for hours. the windlight team should get a medal for how beautiful the world is. so beautiful, that it oft causes spontaneous sex in public. but hey we're all adults right?
[2009/03/25 15:46] Catriana Ninetails: Nudity... Yes/No Penetrative vaginal sex Yes/No Penetrative Anal; Sex Yes/No...like that Blondin
[2009/03/25 15:46] GreenKnight Kaul: how about a list of what LL's already, and i'm sure LL's has already compiled of offensive business let us see for ourselves what crosses the line.
[2009/03/25 15:46] Blondin Linden: that would be quite a list
[2009/03/25 15:46] Catriana Ninetails: Linden puts EVERYTT+HING they can think of on it
[2009/03/25 15:46] Catriana Ninetails: and we vote
[2009/03/25 15:46] Spunke Slade: see, thats our point
[2009/03/25 15:46] Jumpman Lane: a definittion would be better
[2009/03/25 15:47] Ciaran Laval: Did you see the original list they had Greenknight? In the FAQ they pulled, it would have basically made existing mainland PG
[2009/03/25 15:47] Spunke Slade: do the pg land and be done with it
[2009/03/25 15:47] Blondin Linden: and waht would happen if vaginal sex got 100% No and Anal got a 100% Yes.
[2009/03/25 15:47] GreenKnight Kaul: yes i read that
[2009/03/25 15:47] Jumpman Lane: openended to cover all that was that is or will be created in sl
[2009/03/25 15:47] Civlet Moody: slap an adults only label on it and warn people that some things may be offensive. then chastise the sensitive people that cannot read or go out of their way to be outraged.
[2009/03/25 15:47] GreenKnight Kaul: and i know it originally said any display of genetalia
[2009/03/25 15:47] Jumpman Lane: definition by essentials of ehat is to be banned
[2009/03/25 15:47] Jumpman Lane: not an exastive list
[2009/03/25 15:47] Catriana Ninetails: then we go with that. Democracy works like that...its not always fair or right, but thats how it is
[2009/03/25 15:47] Minx Eisenhart: ok to quoate teh exersist
[2009/03/25 15:47] Minx Eisenhart: ☠*.¸¸•☠•¸¸.*• Stick your **** up her ass, you mother******* worthless ****sucker •*.¸¸•☠•¸¸.*☠
[2009/03/25 15:47] Minx Eisenhart: ★ '||' ||''|| '||' ★
[2009/03/25 15:47] Minx Eisenhart: ★ .II..I II..II .II..I ★
[2009/03/25 15:47] Minx Eisenhart: what about gestures like that
[2009/03/25 15:48] Minx Eisenhart: Gesterbating is also a big thing in alot of clubs?
[2009/03/25 15:48] Blondin Linden: oh I didnt even see it
[2009/03/25 15:48] Katheryne Helendale: Well, display of genitalia, in most societies, is considered taboo, unless in designated places.....
[2009/03/25 15:48] Blondin Linden: but I can imagine
[2009/03/25 15:48] GreenKnight Kaul: it also said that it was to implented in 6 weeks, what is the projected timeline now?
[2009/03/25 15:48] Jumpman Lane: will overtly grow
[2009/03/25 15:48] Jumpman Lane: will it get updated servers as time goes by
[2009/03/25 15:48] Spunke Slade: my name is offoncive in parts of europe, will i be only allowed on adult sims
[2009/03/25 15:48] Herne Diker: its not democracy, LL is a business but it sounds like they are deciding that their supposed 2-4% overt is actually more like 40-50% of what exists
[2009/03/25 15:48] Jumpman Lane: or will it be a ghhetoo
[2009/03/25 15:49] GreenKnight Kaul: i believe the wording was real, or photorealistic
[2009/03/25 15:49] Veronica2vixen Devoix: that is true minx
[2009/03/25 15:49] Catriana Ninetails: voice is a whole different issue, guys...voice doesn't COUNT in Sl
[2009/03/25 15:49] Ciaran Laval: Anyone from Scunthorpe is likely to be buggered trying to be found in the new search
[2009/03/25 15:49] MystressAnna Lovenkraft: it was
[2009/03/25 15:49] Catriana Ninetails: it is unregulateable
[2009/03/25 15:49] Blondin Linden: Its not going to be a ghetto
[2009/03/25 15:49] Veronica2vixen Devoix: it missing
[2009/03/25 15:49] Katheryne Helendale: That's the biggest problem with having voice in SL
[2009/03/25 15:49] Blondin Linden: and will continue to be upgraded as well
[2009/03/25 15:49] GreenKnight Kaul: it will be what the tenants make of it.
[2009/03/25 15:49] Kyle Steig: Does anybody but me think this an absurd waste of Blondin's time? Clearly Goerge Carlin's 7 dirty words fall under any definition of Adult that meets the Linden's business goal of cleaning up SL for those made uncomfortable by 'adult' content. I think a much better use of the time would be discussing implementation suggestions rather than definition suggestions.
[2009/03/25 15:49] Jumpman Lane: we'll g\keep it hood there no problemo blondi
[2009/03/25 15:49] Catriana Ninetails: It feels like a ghetto to those who feel they are being porgamed out into a "Special" place, Blondin
[2009/03/25 15:49] Civlet Moody: mainland now is a ghetto without content restrictions.
[2009/03/25 15:50] GreenKnight Kaul: but when was the last time you were at xcite. Impossible to move around horrible lag
[2009/03/25 15:50] Spunke Slade: i do, and i feel bad he is the only one that will talk to us so he takes the brunt of the anger
[2009/03/25 15:50] Ciaran Laval: Kyle trying to define it is a complete waste of time, it can't be done.
[2009/03/25 15:50] Catriana Ninetails: Well, Spunke...thats because the other members of the team have no office hours.
[2009/03/25 15:50] Jumpman Lane: i dont mean like the hood hehehehehehe i mean like the nazi place the "special" place mentioned as well
[2009/03/25 15:51] Herne Diker: If you sterilize SL so all are comfortable it will be a boreing game rather than a virtual world
[2009/03/25 15:51] Spunke Slade: even in the forum
[2009/03/25 15:51] Catriana Ninetails: thank you Jumpman

[2009/03/25 15:51] Jumpman Lane: what will he nam of the violce place be?
[2009/03/25 15:51] Blondin Linden: Its not a waste of time, not for me anyway
[2009/03/25 15:51] Jumpman Lane: the violence continet
[2009/03/25 15:51] Spunke Slade: I know of a place that paid $150000 USD to do a build but because of this they are loosing money
[2009/03/25 15:51] Catriana Ninetails: Why ARE you the only one taking the brunt of this, Blondin?
[2009/03/25 15:51] Ciaran Laval: You can't define it Blondin
[2009/03/25 15:52] Blondin Linden: We're not taking Adult content OUT Herne. It's still there
[2009/03/25 15:52] Jumpman Lane: i know places that sunk at least 50kusd
[2009/03/25 15:52] Spunke Slade: Blondin, get the others to come
[2009/03/25 15:52] Herne Diker: the new guy used as cannon fodder or the tru believer?
[2009/03/25 15:52] Minx Eisenhart: Veronica please fix your mic
[2009/03/25 15:52] Jumpman Lane: what will the violence continent be named
[2009/03/25 15:52] Ciaran Laval: Who got the brown bag lunch today?
[2009/03/25 15:52] Blondin Linden: Others are engaged and reading along as well
[2009/03/25 15:52] Catriana Ninetails: But they have stopped responding in any way
[2009/03/25 15:52] Jumpman Lane: will a guy like lil carducci who makes guns have to move if he were on the mainland
[2009/03/25 15:52] Katheryne Helendale: True, Blondin - but you're segregating it to a small part of the world, and making it difficult for legitimate users to get access to it
[2009/03/25 15:52] Gavin Hird thinks everyone will save ourselves a lot of trouble by creating a PG continent - it is easiert to define PG in an international setting then the other way around.
[2009/03/25 15:53] Jumpman Lane: amen gird
[2009/03/25 15:53] Spunke Slade: yes
[2009/03/25 15:53] Katheryne Helendale: agreed
[2009/03/25 15:53] Jumpman Lane: hird
[2009/03/25 15:53] Catriana Ninetails: I agree Gavin
[2009/03/25 15:53] Minx Eisenhart: im sorry i have mute you veronica
[2009/03/25 15:53] Civlet Moody: agreed
[2009/03/25 15:53] Ciaran Laval: Absolutely Gavin
[2009/03/25 15:53] Kyle Steig: Defining leads to inevitable political and social debate. Can we please re-direct the discussion to more pragmatic needs we would like to express to Blondin for his comment?
[2009/03/25 15:53] Minx Eisenhart: your echoing like crazy
[2009/03/25 15:53] Herne Diker: yes wall off a PG continent. Its possible, ie the teen grid
[2009/03/25 15:53] Blondin Linden: Everyone here and int he forum wants a PG continent
[2009/03/25 15:53] Minx Eisenhart: and massive feedback
[2009/03/25 15:53] Jumpman Lane: because its not just sex but vilence too right
[2009/03/25 15:53] Spunke Slade: yes PG content
[2009/03/25 15:53] Jumpman Lane: violence is being moved off the mainland
[2009/03/25 15:53] Katheryne Helendale: dear lord!
[2009/03/25 15:53] Spunke Slade: *continent
[2009/03/25 15:53] FreeSpirit Serenity: blondin read what voltaire had to say about censorship
[2009/03/25 15:53] Ciaran Laval: It's easier to define Blondin
[2009/03/25 15:53] Spunke Slade: oh you know what i mean
[2009/03/25 15:54] Spunke Slade: all newbie landing points in pg
[2009/03/25 15:54] Kyle Steig: Blondin, what? EVERYONE here wants a PG continent? You think I do?
[2009/03/25 15:54] Civlet Moody: obscenity, overtly sexual, etc. these things are like art (at least when done properly) and impossible to define adequately to all parties
[2009/03/25 15:54] Jumpman Lane: yup u wont be spending days ty\rying to "make up definitions for adult and mature
[2009/03/25 15:54] Blondin Linden: do you not Kyle?
[2009/03/25 15:54] Catriana Ninetails: Why can't the new continent be a holding ground for the new player and the non-verified or whatever? Simply because that wasn't the plan?
[2009/03/25 15:54] Jumpman Lane: i dont want a pg continent
[2009/03/25 15:54] Herne Diker: overt is usually in a building, entered by choice
[2009/03/25 15:54] Jumpman Lane: i mean i want to do w/e where ever i pay tier at
[2009/03/25 15:54] Civlet Moody: if the ESRB couldn't do it and just punted at "18+ = adult" i doubt you can too
[2009/03/25 15:55] Kyle Steig: Blondin, what I want is not gonna happen so my issues are what I can get to cope with what LL has decided it needs to do.
[2009/03/25 15:55] Jumpman Lane: i dotn get the point
[2009/03/25 15:55] Blondin Linden: what are going to be your pain points kyle?
[2009/03/25 15:55] Bloody Shinn: how are you going to verify age?
[2009/03/25 15:55] Spunke Slade: good question
[2009/03/25 15:55] Jumpman Lane: what is the point of segregstion sex and violence
[2009/03/25 15:55] Catriana Ninetails: Blondin...when asking about the overtly sexual, it would really help if in the blogs or wherever, people had an idea of where YOU and your team stand to work from.
[2009/03/25 15:55] Minx Eisenhart: ok blonde im sorry but this is a point i want to drive home
[2009/03/25 15:56] Jumpman Lane: who is left as a customer a client an enjoyerof w/e is left
[2009/03/25 15:56] Kyle Steig: 1) That Verification is unworkable but Double-Opt-In is more than enough and helps LL stay a Common Carrier.
[2009/03/25 15:56] Blondin Linden: age will be verified with CC, Paypal or through Xstreet
[2009/03/25 15:56] Catriana Ninetails: (Sorry...had to turn off voice...it was really bad)
[2009/03/25 15:56] Minx Eisenhart: what about that Go-Go bar when its empty and you have two or three guys watching a girl dance?
[2009/03/25 15:56] Jumpman Lane: im v\banned on xstreet lmao
[2009/03/25 15:56] Kyle Steig: 2) That AV's are content and, as such, we should be able to tag ourselves so we are invisible to those who need their SL PG.
[2009/03/25 15:56] Katheryne Helendale: Veronica, sometimes avatars get stuck in animations
[2009/03/25 15:56] Blondin Linden: how does double opt in verify an age?
[2009/03/25 15:56] Kyle Steig: 3) That no matter which group you move, LL needs to 'keep us whole
[2009/03/25 15:56] Jumpman Lane: a lot of peoiple are
[2009/03/25 15:56] Civlet Moody: you want to protect them from us. who is protecting us from THEM?
[2009/03/25 15:56] Kyle Steig: in the move.
[2009/03/25 15:57] Shar Pienaar: mostly just hear wind and background noise on Veronica, sorry
[2009/03/25 15:57] Minx Eisenhart: im sorry veronica i had to mute you no offence hun
[2009/03/25 15:57] Herne Diker: dancing is not overt sex
[2009/03/25 15:57] GreenKnight Kaul: and if my business is 95% mature and 5% adult does my whole business get moved, because when i bought i bought for the freedom to set up shop in a mature, what was presummd adult world. and if i don't meet the standards now what do i have to do to meet them?
[2009/03/25 15:57] Veronica2vixen Devoix: ok
[2009/03/25 15:57] Spunke Slade: blondin, my alt has payment info used but cant acces parcles that have "verified checked, the system doesnt work that way
[2009/03/25 15:57] Blondin Linden: I don't know if Number 2 is possible
[2009/03/25 15:57] Kyle Steig: Blondin, it doesn't verify age. It verifies one has *committed* to claiming an age. Verification doesn't verify age either.
[2009/03/25 15:58] Spunke Slade: i wont give out my social
[2009/03/25 15:58] Spunke Slade: ever
[2009/03/25 15:58] Jumpman Lane: i sent in all that crap
[2009/03/25 15:58] Jumpman Lane: im identity verified with the lab lmao
[2009/03/25 15:58] Kyle Steig: Blondin, how can it not be possible? It's a presumed mute.
[2009/03/25 15:58] Catriana Ninetails: So payment info on file DOES count as verification, Blondin?
[2009/03/25 15:58] Jumpman Lane: bank statements the worx
[2009/03/25 15:58] StarCat Munster: Canadian law forbids giving out Passport number and SIN
[2009/03/25 15:58] Spunke Slade: i signed the TOS that states I am 18+
[2009/03/25 15:58] Civlet Moody: oh dear me. we're so deflected from the topic of how do you define adult
[2009/03/25 15:59] Kyle Steig: If you, Blondin, have not opted into adult content, I don't wanyt you to see me call Cat a nasty bitch.
[2009/03/25 15:59] Jumpman Lane: caws u cant
[2009/03/25 15:59] Veronica2vixen Devoix: i had to verfy to get land or pay pal
[2009/03/25 15:59] Katheryne Helendale: Defining adult is like nailing jello to the wall.
[2009/03/25 15:59] Civlet Moody: hear hear
[2009/03/25 15:59] Spunke Slade: best quote ever
[2009/03/25 15:59] Veronica2vixen Devoix: lol
[2009/03/25 15:59] Katheryne Helendale: : )
[2009/03/25 15:59] Kyle Steig: While Cat who has opted in can grin ear to ear and say "Yes Kyle, you dickless bastard, I am." and we can relax and be ourselves.
[2009/03/25 15:59] Civlet Moody: you already did define it on sign up. you must be 18 to play
[2009/03/25 15:59] Blondin Linden: just gotta use more than one nail
[2009/03/25 15:59] FreeSpirit Serenity: blondin when one has ideas or plans they must have logical answers to said subject matters
[2009/03/25 15:59] Catriana Ninetails: Blondin...was that a direct response? Because I have been trying to get one about verification for 2 weeks.
[2009/03/25 16:00] Civlet Moody: meaning i expected, and eagerly sought out the f'd up adult content
[2009/03/25 16:00] Jumpman Lane: what is the purpose of all these new regs
[2009/03/25 16:00] Blondin Linden: what cat?
[2009/03/25 16:00] Herne Diker: adult definition is cultural, AlQuieda would see this meeting as overt. If we try to please everyones definition the resulting pap will be a boring place.
[2009/03/25 16:00] Jumpman Lane: i mean some noob tresspassin on pvt property on the mainland desrves top see wtf is there
[2009/03/25 16:00] Catriana Ninetails: Is payment info on file the same as age verification
[2009/03/25 16:00] Jumpman Lane: h e shoulda stayed at home
[2009/03/25 16:00] Veronica2vixen Devoix: so i cant call my kitty that i have in rl oreo my pussy cat?????
[2009/03/25 16:01] Minx Eisenhart: but Blondin do you understand where i am coming from concerning Overtly Sexual towards ilicitly sexual?
[2009/03/25 16:01] Blondin Linden: yes but Noobs dont know that they are tresspassing
[2009/03/25 16:01] Katheryne Helendale: true
[2009/03/25 16:01] Jumpman Lane: some edutard triapsin across the grid between virtual classes is prob LOOKIN for sex and violence
[2009/03/25 16:01] Civlet Moody: BS. if you're incompetant to enter a contract, your guardian is responsible for your trespasses
[2009/03/25 16:01] Jumpman Lane: some business noob woll leave sl sooner than later
[2009/03/25 16:01] Katheryne Helendale: damn annoying things when they keep trying though
[2009/03/25 16:01] Civlet Moody: that covers the maroons. that covers the children. it doesn't cover, and shouldnt have to cover the prudes that SEEK to be outraged
[2009/03/25 16:02] FreeSpirit Serenity: blondin the law said the subject is intent.
[2009/03/25 16:02] Jumpman Lane: noobslearn when they tresspass on my land
[2009/03/25 16:02] Jumpman Lane: at my dumps
[2009/03/25 16:02] Jumpman Lane: and they learn quick
[2009/03/25 16:02] Gavin Hird: why don't you put a statement on the blog saying PIFO and age verification (beta) = age verified? then we can get past that discussion.
[2009/03/25 16:02] Ciaran Laval: They'll continue to seek offence until they get their way and all mainland is PG
[2009/03/25 16:02] Jumpman Lane: first a notecard
[2009/03/25 16:02] Katheryne Helendale: Children! What about child AVs who have to adult-verify just to be able to go to their homes on sims that have been classed as adult?
[2009/03/25 16:02] Jumpman Lane: then the dogs
[2009/03/25 16:02] Spunke Slade: but PIU should be verified as well
[2009/03/25 16:03] Katheryne Helendale: Good question
[2009/03/25 16:03] Catriana Ninetails: Are we permanently off topic now?
[2009/03/25 16:03] Blondin Linden: it seems so
[2009/03/25 16:03] Katheryne Helendale: My sim will be classed adult because there's a stip club on the island
[2009/03/25 16:03] Blondin Linden: Back to definitions
[2009/03/25 16:03] Jumpman Lane: why should your established paying customer base be inconvenieced SACRIFIECED for TOUI|RISTS?
[2009/03/25 16:03] Minx Eisenhart: speaking of child Avi's
[2009/03/25 16:03] Spunke Slade: definitions are irrelevant
[2009/03/25 16:03] Jumpman Lane: u cant define that
[2009/03/25 16:03] Spunke Slade: you cant seperate mature and adult
[2009/03/25 16:03] Jumpman Lane: its pr
[2009/03/25 16:03] Catriana Ninetails shouts: HEY! GUYS! Does any one have any suggestions as to what is NOT Adult Content????
[2009/03/25 16:03] Spunke Slade: it is one and the same
[2009/03/25 16:03] Minx Eisenhart: the search dont even allow bondage playground becouse of bondAGE PLAYground
[2009/03/25 16:03] Jumpman Lane: a change to say we are doing something
[2009/03/25 16:04] Blondin Linden: Thats a good questiond CAt
[2009/03/25 16:04] Minx Eisenhart: these are thing you need to get fixed
[2009/03/25 16:04] Blondin Linden: Thank you
[2009/03/25 16:04] Jumpman Lane: ithink there are plusses to a mature mainland and a pg mainland
[2009/03/25 16:04] Herne Diker: These sort of discussions are pr, LL will do as LL has decided already
[2009/03/25 16:04] Veronica2vixen Devoix: hahahahaah
[2009/03/25 16:04] MystressAnna Lovenkraft: someone walk there Dog is Not "Adult"
[2009/03/25 16:04] Jumpman Lane: i thinke that even a google like search
[2009/03/25 16:04] Katheryne Helendale: tc Bloody
[2009/03/25 16:04] Jumpman Lane: u know safe mode
[2009/03/25 16:04] Catriana Ninetails: I say nudity, public or private is not overtly sexual.
[2009/03/25 16:04] Jumpman Lane: and safe off would be useful
[2009/03/25 16:04] Blondin Linden: I agrree with you Cat
[2009/03/25 16:04] Jumpman Lane: but forcing age verification is a waste
[2009/03/25 16:04] Bloody Shinn: now buhbye LL can stfu
[2009/03/25 16:04] Blondin Linden: Nudity is not adult
[2009/03/25 16:04] Herne Diker: nudity is definatly not overt sex
[2009/03/25 16:05] Veronica2vixen Devoix: some form nudity is Art
[2009/03/25 16:05] Blondin Linden: I agree Veronica
[2009/03/25 16:05] Katheryne Helendale: agreed
[2009/03/25 16:05] Ciaran Laval: Then why can't people buy a nudie mag before they're 18?
[2009/03/25 16:05] Spunke Slade: actually some states 16 is legal to purchase adult materal
[2009/03/25 16:05] Blondin Linden: B/c Nudity is considred Mature
[2009/03/25 16:05] MystressAnna Lovenkraft: public Art is Not "Adult" even if it have sexual overtones
[2009/03/25 16:05] Katheryne Helendale: Okay, what's the difference between nudes as art, and nudes in a magazine?
[2009/03/25 16:05] Catriana Ninetails: But you can look at the "David" at any age.
[2009/03/25 16:05] Minx Eisenhart: no but they can buy National Geographic Ciaran
[2009/03/25 16:05] Civlet Moody: page 3 in the UK is lots o breasts. this is a regular non adult newspaper
[2009/03/25 16:06] Herne Diker: spread leg nudity for titilation is overt, but behind walls is your decision
[2009/03/25 16:06] Jumpman Lane: that is another thing
[2009/03/25 16:06] Shar Pienaar: Nudity is considered mature in the US.....not in many places in EU for example though
[2009/03/25 16:06] Ciaran Laval: Yeah but it's only ever topless
[2009/03/25 16:06] Blondin Linden: Ok Herne, I can see that
[2009/03/25 16:06] Jumpman Lane: diff countries have diff ideas about what is adult
[2009/03/25 16:06] Blondin Linden: Agree Shar
[2009/03/25 16:06] Blondin Linden: Agree Jump
[2009/03/25 16:06] Jumpman Lane: the supreme court cant even define the obscene nationwide
[2009/03/25 16:06] Kyle Steig: Blondin, Absent the bility to flag oneself as Adult Content we are all just so much canon-fodder for those who seek to be outraged. Those who make value judgements about art, lifestyle, sexual orientation, humor. Absent an ability to force them not to see us, we have to rely on them to 'change the channel' and they won't. They will AR anyone who simply passes through with a collar, a 4 letter word or the wrong exposed body part. They will cam into my home and AR me for the 9 way group sex I have RP with friends and family. They will just LOOK for an excuse. I come to SL to be *away* from people who can't handle an ascerbic wit, rybald humor and politically incorrect views of sex, drugs, rock and roll and violence. The current model makes this fine here.
[2009/03/25 16:06] Catriana Ninetails: OK...so in general...Nudity is not adult...
[2009/03/25 16:06] Shar Pienaar: Exactly my point Jumpman
[2009/03/25 16:06] Catriana Ninetails: in what PLACES does nudity BECOME adult?
[2009/03/25 16:06] MystressAnna Lovenkraft: AVies in Pose "Nude" not doing anything Sexual is not "Adult"
[2009/03/25 16:07] Blondin Linden: Nudity isnt adult
[2009/03/25 16:07] Blondin Linden: AN Info Hub for one
[2009/03/25 16:07] Civlet Moody: i'm really curious why we're doing backflips trying to define what is adult, more adult, less adult when we're all.... adults? any kids here please bring your parents to the keys so they may be rebuked kaitnx
[2009/03/25 16:07] Katheryne Helendale: Except when on a pole?
[2009/03/25 16:07] Minx Eisenhart: but a dance pole is even of shes fully clothed?
[2009/03/25 16:07] Herne Diker: so you don't want ads that are overt or windows but inside a discreet club exterior nothing would be overt, sort of like brothels are handled in many countries
[2009/03/25 16:07] Jumpman Lane: the mainland exists and im not against a specifically adult /mature SECOND mainland
[2009/03/25 16:08] Spunke Slade: i honestly dont see whay LL is trying to redefine terms that have been inplace for ever
[2009/03/25 16:08] Jumpman Lane: but not a mini perve island
[2009/03/25 16:08] Blondin Linden: Dancing at a bar isn't adult. Taking clothes off while people watch, is adult
[2009/03/25 16:08] Kyle Steig looks up at the parcel name flag and starts taking off his clothes because the fire is too hot
[2009/03/25 16:08] Jumpman Lane: there can be pluses to it if it grows at the same pace
[2009/03/25 16:08] Ciaran Laval: but nudity isn't adult
[2009/03/25 16:08] Jumpman Lane: by demand
[2009/03/25 16:08] Jumpman Lane: a n adult continent
[2009/03/25 16:08] MystressAnna Lovenkraft: I dont think that a stripper is "Adult" if there is no promise for sex or place for sex there
[2009/03/25 16:08] Jumpman Lane: orcontinentS plural
[2009/03/25 16:08] Catriana Ninetails: I agree Anna
[2009/03/25 16:08] Jumpman Lane: i wouldnt be at all opposed to that
[2009/03/25 16:08] Minx Eisenhart: ok Nude beaches arnt adult right?
[2009/03/25 16:08] Herne Diker: adult or overt. I thought the original definition thing was for the 2-4% overt
[2009/03/25 16:08] Katheryne Helendale: On the other hand, my emotes while I'm dancing are inarguably adult ; )
[2009/03/25 16:08] Blondin Linden: Nude beaches would not be adult
[2009/03/25 16:08] Jumpman Lane: call it sl rezoning
[2009/03/25 16:08] GreenKnight Kaul: people watch movies where a woman gets into a bath. ummmm
[2009/03/25 16:08] Catriana Ninetails: What if you are a dance club that wants to have a naked dance contest, Blondin?
[2009/03/25 16:08] Minx Eisenhart: so does that mean theres no more dancing allowed at nude beaches?
[2009/03/25 16:09] Kyle Steig looks down at Mina "Can I help you with your shirt?"
[2009/03/25 16:09] Blondin Linden: a nude beach where people are opening having sex - that would be adult
[2009/03/25 16:09] Katheryne Helendale: and fun : )
[2009/03/25 16:09] Spunke Slade: no that would be mature
[2009/03/25 16:09] Minx Eisenhart: you said dancing and taing yoru clothes off while people watch is adult
[2009/03/25 16:09] Katheryne Helendale: Sorry, couldn't help it ; )
[2009/03/25 16:09] Minx Eisenhart: so you cant dance at a nude beach?
[2009/03/25 16:09] Blondin Linden: and itchy
[2009/03/25 16:09] Herne Diker: overt or adult? do not smear the two together
[2009/03/25 16:09] Civlet Moody: we're trying to define adult so that we may sequester it to protect those that don't want to see it? isn't that what those violent welcome areas are already (PG) for?
[2009/03/25 16:09] Katheryne Helendale: rofl!
[2009/03/25 16:09] Civlet Moody: if you stray into a mature area, you should expect to be hit with mature concepts
[2009/03/25 16:10] Kyle Steig chuckles "OK, he has a sense of humor. There's hope."
[2009/03/25 16:10] Jumpman Lane: the adult /mature thing is pr window dressing
[2009/03/25 16:10] Katheryne Helendale grins
[2009/03/25 16:10] Minx Eisenhart: these are things people will file AR's against
[2009/03/25 16:10] Shar Pienaar: That is why the concern over who or what will be the judging body Kyle, because one person would be offended by your usual tag that you wear, report you, and possibly have you banned, then you get the fun that can happen if someone is mad at you, or has a competting business, how easy is this new system to abuse......if it is treated like many other things, then the rule of "better safe than sorry" will apply and anyone AR'ed would be on the losing side, or have to prove their innocence
[2009/03/25 16:10] Jumpman Lane: in the end the mainland will be the pg land
[2009/03/25 16:10] Catriana Ninetails: I agree, Civ, that the idea which makes the MOST sense is enforcement of the controls already in place, but that seems to be beside the issue here.
[2009/03/25 16:10] Minx Eisenhart: these are things people will file AR's against
[2009/03/25 16:10] Jumpman Lane: and the new continent(s) for sex mature
[2009/03/25 16:10] Blondin Linden: Ok, lets talk about who is going to be judging this
[2009/03/25 16:10] Civlet Moody: that's what you've really set out to do isnt it. make mainland PG without coming right out and saying PG
[2009/03/25 16:10] Jumpman Lane: the g team i hope
[2009/03/25 16:10] Spunke Slade: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mature
[2009/03/25 16:10] Minx Eisenhart: and if you dont have a strict set of rules this is allowd and this isnt
[2009/03/25 16:11] Jumpman Lane: ive got pals on the g team : p
[2009/03/25 16:11] Catriana Ninetails: Good question, Blondin...Who WILL be?
[2009/03/25 16:11] Blondin Linden: I would assume the G Team and the resi team would be making the call
[2009/03/25 16:11] Spunke Slade: composed of adults, considered as being less susceptible than minors to explicit sexual content, violence, or obscene language, as of a film or stage performance: for mature audiences only.
[2009/03/25 16:11] Minx Eisenhart: teh Lindens that act on these AR's will have differant opinions
[2009/03/25 16:11] Katheryne Helendale: I'm not really against the idea of having a separate adult continent, mainly because it would protect us from the Nany's walking around the grid looking for people to AR
[2009/03/25 16:11] Ciaran Laval: Absolutely Minx as they do on gambling devices
[2009/03/25 16:11] Catriana Ninetails: OMG do not bring her up.
[2009/03/25 16:11] Blondin Linden: based on ARs that come in, they are the ones who would have to investigate
[2009/03/25 16:11] Kyle Steig: Blondin, whoever's judging now isn't being remotely fair under the CURRENT rules and this is from a guy who's never neen AR'd despite RPing being a despicable bastard.
[2009/03/25 16:11] Katheryne Helendale: sowwy
[2009/03/25 16:11] Spunke Slade: that was the deff of mature

[2009/03/25 16:12] Catriana Ninetails reminds herself to AR Kyle just for fun
[2009/03/25 16:12] Minx Eisenhart: and unless its only one person investigating theres going to be differant opinons unless its writen in stone!
[2009/03/25 16:12] Jumpman Lane: ilsands arent affected so who cares
[2009/03/25 16:12] Ciaran Laval: Islands are very much affected
[2009/03/25 16:12] Spunke Slade: islands are arrected
[2009/03/25 16:12] Catriana Ninetails: who told you that jumpman?
[2009/03/25 16:12] Blondin Linden: would people feel more comfotable if there were two people or more on the team making the jdgement?
[2009/03/25 16:12] Catriana Ninetails: Yes they are
[2009/03/25 16:12] Katheryne Helendale: Islands are affected worse than mainland by this
[2009/03/25 16:12] Spunke Slade: gah typos
[2009/03/25 16:12] Jumpman Lane: a n adult continent that grows with demand wouldnt be a bad theing the current mainland would be the defacto pg grid
[2009/03/25 16:12] Jumpman Lane: im not opposed to that
[2009/03/25 16:13] Jumpman Lane: i read it spunk
[2009/03/25 16:13] Spunke Slade: i am, why should i have to move
[2009/03/25 16:13] Catriana Ninetails: I think that AT LEAST two people per AR report should be mandatory
[2009/03/25 16:13] Jumpman Lane: u just tag it adult
[2009/03/25 16:13] Minx Eisenhart: theres shoudl be 3
[2009/03/25 16:13] Jumpman Lane: u dotn have to move
[2009/03/25 16:13] Herne Diker: Islands are private by definition how would this apply to them
[2009/03/25 16:13] MystressAnna Lovenkraft: YEs to more than one on a "Team"
[2009/03/25 16:13] Spunke Slade: i paid for mature land
[2009/03/25 16:13] Kyle Steig goes back to Dark Bliss and returns Cat's build one prim at a time so she has a good reason to AR me.
[2009/03/25 16:13] Minx Eisenhart: majority wins
[2009/03/25 16:13] Blondin Linden: Maybe the Gteam could have buddies - like a resident buddy or two Lindens, one international
[2009/03/25 16:13] Civlet Moody: i'm not against a separate mature continent. i'm not against a separate pg continent. i'm not even against ageORpayment verification for mature content. i am brutally against not being grandfathered in to mainland i've enjoyed legally
[2009/03/25 16:13] Spunke Slade: i stated i was adult when i signed tos and used my cc
[2009/03/25 16:13] GreenKnight Kaul: Blondin did say this moring individual regions in estates can be flagged.
[2009/03/25 16:13] MystressAnna Lovenkraft: Good Idea Blondin
[2009/03/25 16:14] Spunke Slade: but if i take my cc info off im not verified anymore...
[2009/03/25 16:14] GreenKnight Kaul: and only that region locked down i assume
[2009/03/25 16:14] Catriana Ninetails: I PERSONALLY think the G team should have at least one PLAYER on it, as well...
[2009/03/25 16:14] Minx Eisenhart: but then what happens if 2 or 3 differnt team mebers each looked at differant AR's but of the same sistuation
[2009/03/25 16:14] Ciaran Laval: Let the adult continent grow voluntarily and for heaven's sake build a PG continent for those who accidentally stumble across places like Hard Alley, like that is possible, but just to protect them further
[2009/03/25 16:14] Minx Eisenhart: one person gets warned
[2009/03/25 16:14] Katheryne Helendale: What about individual parcels in a region, for single-island estates?
[2009/03/25 16:14] MystressAnna Lovenkraft: maybe you could link a purde and Dommie together for those
[2009/03/25 16:14] Minx Eisenhart: the other doesnt
[2009/03/25 16:14] Minx Eisenhart: thats why these things need to be writen in stone
[2009/03/25 16:14] Jumpman Lane: we dont need RESIDENT MONITERS lmao
[2009/03/25 16:14] Kyle Steig: Bluntly, I bought land on a mature continent so I could assrape a rhino while watching snuff films. THAT is the level of freedom I think I should have in matrure land I own and what it used to mean to buy Mature land in an 18+ hosting environment like SL.
[2009/03/25 16:14] Blondin Linden: thats good point Jump
[2009/03/25 16:15] Jumpman Lane: u always choose that tard strife from the forums
[2009/03/25 16:15] Spunke Slade: i still say make the new place PG and be done with it
[2009/03/25 16:15] GreenKnight Kaul: good point Katheryne
[2009/03/25 16:15] Civlet Moody: **mental note*** buy rhino avatar
[2009/03/25 16:15] Catriana Ninetails: Yeah we DO...people who PLAY the game have a different perspective than people who MAKE the game, 9 times out of 10
[2009/03/25 16:15] Katheryne Helendale spews her soda all over her monitor after reading what Kyle just wrote
[2009/03/25 16:15] Jumpman Lane: i know hard rust
[2009/03/25 16:15] Jumpman Lane: that aint mainland im SURE lmao
[2009/03/25 16:15] Kyle Steig: Blondin, why isn't that an option actually? Why not have a 'tansition area' that is rated G and let people *choose*?
[2009/03/25 16:16] Jumpman Lane: well LL built nost of the early mainland
[2009/03/25 16:16] Minx Eisenhart: unless its writen in stone there will be times its unfair to users
[2009/03/25 16:16] Jumpman Lane: that continent is theirs to ZONE as they wish
[2009/03/25 16:16] Minx Eisenhart: thats why overtly sexual is a bad idea
[2009/03/25 16:16] Shar Pienaar: I agree Civlet, and going along with that is the whole (off topic but relevant) issue of adding a whole ton of land to an already overloaded market.......How are people that are on the current ML going to be able to get any value from their land that is here where even more land would be on the market,.....also the land on this new ML.....how much will it cost once the landbarons cut it up and decide to sell it at premium prices since it has the label of "adult grid approved"?
[2009/03/25 16:16] Herne Diker: good idea a super welcome center, the size of a continent
[2009/03/25 16:16] Minx Eisenhart: u cant write that in sotne
[2009/03/25 16:16] Jumpman Lane: im decidely NOT against another continet that is UNRATED
[2009/03/25 16:16] Minx Eisenhart: u can write up Ilicit in stone how ever
[2009/03/25 16:16] Jumpman Lane: that night be better than adult /mature
[2009/03/25 16:16] Spunke Slade: and pg sims could move to this new area if they wanted to
[2009/03/25 16:16] Blondin Linden: how would u define illicit?
[2009/03/25 16:16] Minx Eisenhart: Sex!
[2009/03/25 16:17] Minx Eisenhart: War!
[2009/03/25 16:17] Minx Eisenhart: Dismemberment
[2009/03/25 16:17] Jumpman Lane: if the supreme court cant define obscene
[2009/03/25 16:17] Spunke Slade: then LL cant
[2009/03/25 16:17] Jumpman Lane: why bother defining illicit
[2009/03/25 16:17] Minx Eisenhart: Graphic images
[2009/03/25 16:17] Jumpman Lane: make it pg and unrated
[2009/03/25 16:17] Jumpman Lane: or pg mature
[2009/03/25 16:17] Katheryne Helendale: You know, that may well be the best way to achieve the zoning SL needs -- Set up an adult continent, set up a G-continent, and let the existing mainland residents vet it out themselves
[2009/03/25 16:17] Jumpman Lane: define pg and let everything else go to the new continent
[2009/03/25 16:17] Jumpman Lane: u should really be aiming for simplicity
[2009/03/25 16:17] Catriana Ninetails: I still say a list of propsed "concrete adults activities" that can be commented on would work better than this
[2009/03/25 16:18] Catriana Ninetails: no matter WHAT direction the exodus takes
[2009/03/25 16:18] Spunke Slade: no, let everything stay where it is and make the new one g/pg only
[2009/03/25 16:18] Jumpman Lane: that wold be simpler spunke
[2009/03/25 16:18] GreenKnight Kaul: definitions of illicit can range depending on taste and culture, ask a dom master and he may say omg how vanilla and non sexy.
[2009/03/25 16:18] Minx Eisenhart: thats are 4 things that pretty much covers ilicit
[2009/03/25 16:18] Jumpman Lane: no moves
[2009/03/25 16:18] Spunke Slade: that honestly be easier thant the other way
[2009/03/25 16:18] Minx Eisenhart: and the things you want away from pg sims
[2009/03/25 16:18] Ciaran Laval: Cartriana when they're saying strippers are adult but fisting in a private home isn't it's a bit tricky to define it
[2009/03/25 16:18] Minx Eisenhart: wouldnt you agree?
[2009/03/25 16:18] FreeSpirit Serenity: blondin never take the positions or plans or logic yhat you have before a judge, jury, or independeny review it will fail.
[2009/03/25 16:18] Civlet Moody: back to the ESRB... TEEN
Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.
[2009/03/25 16:19] Shar Pienaar: Yes, Catriana, without any standards set it comes down to opinion, which can be swayed for or against individual gain
[2009/03/25 16:19] Jumpman Lane: if there is a deadline
[2009/03/25 16:19] Herne Diker: dont mix adult and overt/illicit. we are all adult though most of us don't participate in overt activities or the definition will soon include everything
[2009/03/25 16:19] Blondin Linden: Happy Birthday FreeSPirt and welcome to SL
[2009/03/25 16:19] Jumpman Lane: keep it sdimple
[2009/03/25 16:19] Katheryne Helendale: Speaking of which, how exactly is a priveate residence defined?
[2009/03/25 16:19] Jumpman Lane: is free spirit a noob lmao
[2009/03/25 16:19] Blondin Linden: Freespirt is just 4 days old
[2009/03/25 16:19] Kyle Steig: Blondin, *I* am adult content. This is the sort of IM I get. [16:17] Pretty Girl: need a slut to bother and abuse today Sir?
[16:18] Kyle Steig: Badly but I am in a meeting with a linden
[16:18] Kyle Steig: so now might not be the best time. ; )
[2009/03/25 16:19] Katheryne Helendale hopes everyone can read typonese : )
[2009/03/25 16:19] Jumpman Lane: oh a noob
[2009/03/25 16:19] Spunke Slade: lol
[2009/03/25 16:19] Jumpman Lane: well we at slut mag hate noobs
[2009/03/25 16:20] Jumpman Lane: im er kiddin lmao
[2009/03/25 16:20] GreenKnight Kaul: friend from rl that wanted to come here, i was tellling them it wasnt a good time but they wanted to see it before it was sanitized.;
[2009/03/25 16:20] Gavin Hird: make a PG continent and then let the rest be unrated where communities themselves can agree on norms
[2009/03/25 16:20] GreenKnight Kaul: Free is
[2009/03/25 16:20] Kyle Steig: and that's what I mean about needing for people to filter themselves out of view.
[2009/03/25 16:20] Spunke Slade: hahah sanitised
[2009/03/25 16:20] Civlet Moody: this is a mature sim but not marked mature content. i'm totally worried we're going to get ARd for talking
[2009/03/25 16:20] Catriana Ninetails: Welcome to SL Freespirit
[2009/03/25 16:20] Spunke Slade: dang my typos are bad today
[2009/03/25 16:20] Katheryne Helendale: Kyle, you missed an opportunity to sacrifice a virgin at this fire? For shame! llol
[2009/03/25 16:20] Kyle Steig: Katheryne., I defy you to find me a virgin.
[2009/03/25 16:21] Katheryne Helendale: Touche
[2009/03/25 16:21] Jumpman Lane: if freespirti wandered into your mainland sim how would u greet freespirit?
[2009/03/25 16:21] Jumpman Lane: i'd freeze em set em on fire and sic my dogs on them
[2009/03/25 16:21] Minx Eisenhart: and along with sending off Ilicit matieral do some new zoneing laws saying adult matiral can not be outside of a building
[2009/03/25 16:21] Jumpman Lane: so i get the idea that there should be sep continents
[2009/03/25 16:21] Jumpman Lane: and even approve
[2009/03/25 16:21] Catriana Ninetails: The fact of the matter, Blondin, is we ARE all adults here...that is what SL is for... and the minority of individuals and groups that want safe, clean SL should be given that.
[2009/03/25 16:21] Minx Eisenhart: on the mainland
[2009/03/25 16:21] Ciaran Laval: Who are all these concerned residents complaining about adult content and why does nobody else but Linden lab hear from them in large numbers?
[2009/03/25 16:21] Katheryne Helendale: Agreed, Cat
[2009/03/25 16:22] Minx Eisenhart: so get rid of the no mainland covenat
[2009/03/25 16:22] Catriana Ninetails: But the rest should not be required to change how we play and the way we work and have invested
[2009/03/25 16:22] Jumpman Lane: that is what ive asked here a coupke if times and was ignored
[2009/03/25 16:22] Jumpman Lane: in the forums toio
[2009/03/25 16:22] Minx Eisenhart: and set up so ozooning laws fofr mainland
[2009/03/25 16:22] Jumpman Lane: who are these people
[2009/03/25 16:22] Spunke Slade: Blondin, i think the point we all have made, here and in the forums is that you cannot define a diferance in mature and adult because they are one in the same, and we are suggesting what we all, thoses here and those in the forums have been saying could work to ease this without uprooting half of sl and causing more people to leave
[2009/03/25 16:22] Jumpman Lane: what part of the customer basse
[2009/03/25 16:22] Katheryne Helendale: I could name one, but I shall never again utter her name here
[2009/03/25 16:22] Jumpman Lane: surely NOT people like freespirit who prob wont even log on in a month
[2009/03/25 16:22] Catriana Ninetails: TY Kat
[2009/03/25 16:22] Jumpman Lane: NOT the new user
[2009/03/25 16:22] Katheryne Helendale: : )
[2009/03/25 16:22] Jumpman Lane: for sure
[2009/03/25 16:22] FreeSpirit Serenity: blobdin dont placate answer tge peoples concerns rember what harry t said the buck stops here
[2009/03/25 16:22] Jumpman Lane: lol
[2009/03/25 16:23] Minx Eisenhart: the buck stops here (_!_)
[2009/03/25 16:23] Minx Eisenhart: ~~~~~~~~ OOOOOOOOOOPS ~~~~~~~~
[2009/03/25 16:23] Minx Eisenhart: would that be overt?
[2009/03/25 16:23] Herne Diker: a new linden alt?
[2009/03/25 16:23] Spunke Slade: simply put i think all are in agreeance of a new area, but make it pg/g and leave the rest alone
[2009/03/25 16:23] Katheryne Helendale: agreed
[2009/03/25 16:23] Herne Diker: correct grow into the pg areas as SL expands
[2009/03/25 16:23] Jumpman Lane: im glad u updated ur avi to o blondin u looked likea half dozen of my alts with that freebie skin : p
[2009/03/25 16:23] Jumpman Lane: u had
[2009/03/25 16:24] Spunke Slade: its less hassel for you at LL and less hassel for us customers of your business
[2009/03/25 16:24] Catriana Ninetails: If that is NOT POSSIBLE, Blondin...I feel like someone should SAY...thats NOT how its gonna be, so we can all move on.
[2009/03/25 16:24] Katheryne Helendale: I am also for the idea of a zoned red-light district.... But moving there should be voluntary
[2009/03/25 16:24] Blondin Linden: i saw your post about it Jump
[2009/03/25 16:24] Ciaran Laval: I wouldn't object to mainland communities asking LL to make their sms a no sex store/strip club zone via covenant, but that's done with agreement of current owners
[2009/03/25 16:24] Jumpman Lane: hehehehehe
[2009/03/25 16:24] Jumpman Lane: well u did good
[2009/03/25 16:24] Jumpman Lane: great taste
[2009/03/25 16:24] Blondin Linden: ANd I like your shirt
[2009/03/25 16:25] Jumpman Lane: heheh i reall do likeurs
[2009/03/25 16:25] Kyle Steig: Honestly, I don't want my content or land or investment accessible to anyone who doesn't use the word fuck as a part of speach. My investment here is to play with the Cat, Civlets, Anna and Shar's of the world.... to let my hair down and not-self sensor. It's why I stay in mature sims and why I tend to go only to places called "Suck Slaves Hall" "Dark Bliss BDSM CLub", "Hard Alley" "The Breeding Room" etc.
[2009/03/25 16:25] Herne Diker: it would be attractive to the overt businesses to be in a centralized area . People would know where to go
[2009/03/25 16:25] Katheryne Helendale: Which Linden can I hound for the incessant avatar-cloud problem? ^.^ LOL ^.^
[2009/03/25 16:25] Shar Pienaar: Spunke, that agreement holds no power, that issue is already decided, this is a discussion, not a decision making group.
[2009/03/25 16:25] Minx Eisenhart: and this is a fantisy world
[2009/03/25 16:25] Blondin Linden: hey guys and girls, I only have 5 minutes left
[2009/03/25 16:25] Spunke Slade: ahh thats where ive seen your nameKyle ;p
[2009/03/25 16:26] FreeSpirit Serenity: spunke slade in logic you nvver use all yhat makes yuur logic irrevlant
[2009/03/25 16:26] Minx Eisenhart: what if i wanted to walk around in a latex corest and panties cus i cant do that in rl do i have to go do it in Ben Dover Lane name
[2009/03/25 16:26] Minx Eisenhart: now?
[2009/03/25 16:26] Minx Eisenhart: and get my pixels molested?
[2009/03/25 16:26] Spunke Slade: i ment what the residents are actually agreeing on that would be feasible, not what ll is doing
[2009/03/25 16:26] Blondin Linden: probablly i Mature
[2009/03/25 16:26] Blondin Linden: in mature
[2009/03/25 16:26] GreenKnight Kaul: ok Blondin when do you suspect a new deffiniton will be made available?
[2009/03/25 16:26] Blondin Linden: Hopefully soon Green
[2009/03/25 16:26] Blondin Linden: in two or three weeks
[2009/03/25 16:26] GreenKnight Kaul: yes hopefully
[2009/03/25 16:27] Blondin Linden: HOPEFULLY
[2009/03/25 16:27] Spunke Slade: thats ont soon...
[2009/03/25 16:27] Minx Eisenhart: i can live with this change if it was Overtly was fine for mature and ilicit get sent to adult
[2009/03/25 16:27] Catriana Ninetails: Will there be MORE Linden involvement on the blogs Blondin?
[2009/03/25 16:27] Blondin Linden: trust me, thats soon for us
[2009/03/25 16:27] Blondin Linden:
[2009/03/25 16:27] Minx Eisenhart: anything else is to be a gray area
[2009/03/25 16:27] Katheryne Helendale: This isn't something to be rushed, Spunk
[2009/03/25 16:27] Spunke Slade: o.O
[2009/03/25 16:27] Ciaran Laval: Two or three weeks is a damn long time to come up with a definition, you've had eighteen months
[2009/03/25 16:27] Herne Diker: Blondin I dissapointed that the original 2-4% has obviously grown in LL to include so much more. Overt I can see segregating but not adult
[2009/03/25 16:27] Minx Eisenhart: and will cry for abuse
[2009/03/25 16:27] Kyle Steig: It HAS to be safe to IM somenbody.
[2009/03/25 16:27] Blondin Linden: JP , Cyn and I will probablly be the ones most visable
[2009/03/25 16:27] Minx Eisenhart: and nailing people to the verbila cross
[2009/03/25 16:27] Civlet Moody: yes. i sold off 47k sq meters of land because, as a concierge level land holder, i didn't feel the lindens were communicating adequately enough
[2009/03/25 16:27] Spunke Slade: that i know, but something, anything would be better than what we have gotten so far
[2009/03/25 16:27] Civlet Moody: its not fair if you're the only one answering
[2009/03/25 16:27] Ciaran Laval: May 2007 you first tried to introduce these rules
[2009/03/25 16:27] Katheryne Helendale: true
[2009/03/25 16:28] Catriana Ninetails: So you , JP, and Cyn ARE the team?
[2009/03/25 16:28] Blondin Linden: no
[2009/03/25 16:28] Gavin Hird: you dont want to drag this out too long as people will stop maiking buying and business decisions
[2009/03/25 16:28] Blondin Linden: But JP, Cyn and I are the ones talking about it.
[2009/03/25 16:28] GreenKnight Kaul: i have already stopped building
[2009/03/25 16:28] Civlet Moody: exactly gavin. or liquidating in a panic due to uncertainty
[2009/03/25 16:28] Gavin Hird: yah
[2009/03/25 16:28] Spunke Slade: as have i green
[2009/03/25 16:28] Katheryne Helendale: good point
[2009/03/25 16:28] Minx Eisenhart: ok just last night
[2009/03/25 16:28] GreenKnight Kaul: and my movie budget is wearing thin
[2009/03/25 16:29] Gavin Hird: you rish throwing the baby out with the bath water
[2009/03/25 16:29] Gavin Hird: risk*
[2009/03/25 16:29] Minx Eisenhart: i had a model bot ARed cus my sim went down and she got sent to a pg region
[2009/03/25 16:29] Ciaran Laval: PG continent, there's the answer to a lot of your problems
[2009/03/25 16:29] Herne Diker: gavins right
[2009/03/25 16:29] Blondin Linden: We're going some brown bags this week and next and reaching out to people
[2009/03/25 16:29] Catriana Ninetails: How will you decide what people?
[2009/03/25 16:29] Katheryne Helendale: Thank you, Minx! That happens quite a lot!
[2009/03/25 16:29] MystressAnna Lovenkraft: but which poeple?
[2009/03/25 16:29] Spunke Slade: feel free to reach to me
[2009/03/25 16:29] Catriana Ninetails: What people you are reaching out to, I mean?
[2009/03/25 16:29] Ciaran Laval: They've already started them Katheryne
[2009/03/25 16:29] Minx Eisenhart: with out a tos writen in stone there is going to be soo many faulsly filled ars
[2009/03/25 16:29] Spunke Slade: that sounded bad...
[2009/03/25 16:29] Ciaran Laval: They had one yesterday for sure
[2009/03/25 16:30] Blondin Linden: OK all, I have to go
[2009/03/25 16:30] Civlet Moody: you can hide a lot of alcohol in a brown bag... i'd be well on my way to alcoholism if i had your job blondin...
[2009/03/25 16:30] Katheryne Helendale: That happened to my child-av daugter as she was in the process of trying on new clothes
[2009/03/25 16:30] Blondin Linden: Sorry if this wasnt productive for you
[2009/03/25 16:30] Blondin Linden:
[2009/03/25 16:30] FreeSpirit Serenity: blondin my college professors including dr. p.h/f. would not approve
[2009/03/25 16:30] Catriana Ninetails: Thank You Blondin
[2009/03/25 16:30] Minx Eisenhart: Thank you for listening to us rant and rave at you
[2009/03/25 16:30] Ciaran Laval: A PG continent would be very productive blondin, thanks for your time
[2009/03/25 16:30] GreenKnight Kaul: Thank you Blondin for your time
[2009/03/25 16:30] Blondin Linden: I'll be back next week and will be on the forums tomorrow AM
[2009/03/25 16:30] Shar Pienaar: Thank you Blondin
[2009/03/25 16:30] raebedahs Rhiadra: Have a nice evening Blondin
[2009/03/25 16:30] Gavin Hird: ok, thanks Blondin
[2009/03/25 16:30] Spunke Slade: Thank you for this : )
[2009/03/25 16:30] Blondin Linden: EST if you are really that interested
[2009/03/25 16:30] Katheryne Helendale: Yay!
[2009/03/25 16:30] Minx Eisenhart: oh ill be here next week
[2009/03/25 16:30] Kyle Steig: Blondin, thanks for at least trying.
[2009/03/25 16:30] Minx Eisenhart: and the week after
[2009/03/25 16:31] Minx Eisenhart: and so forth
[2009/03/25 16:31] Minx Eisenhart: till this is settled
[2009/03/25 16:31] Spunke Slade: EST nice
[2009/03/25 16:31] Catriana Ninetails: I'm just moving in, lol
[2009/03/25 16:31] Kyle Steig: Do please try and think one level up from the 'what is and what isn't and move to the 'how to let those who don't want to see, simply not see" it's safer for them and for us.
[2009/03/25 16:31] Catriana Ninetails: Protest party tonight
[2009/03/25 16:31] Spunke Slade: lol
[2009/03/25 16:31] Minx Eisenhart: I can't believe I gave my panties to a Geek
[2009/03/25 16:31] Katheryne Helendale: I'm not wearing any panties!
[2009/03/25 16:31] Gavin Hird: bye all
[2009/03/25 16:32] Jumpman Lane: cya blondin
[2009/03/25 16:32] Blondin Linden: YOu can have your protest party here tonight - but keep it PG!
[2009/03/25 16:32] Blondin Linden:
[2009/03/25 16:32] Minx Eisenhart: me niethe ri gave em to blondin (king Geek)
[2009/03/25 16:32] Catriana Ninetails: lol
[2009/03/25 16:32] Blondin Linden: ttyl

/me sends a flying penis randomly through the conversation

*"shoosh!" sound effect*

as the old saying goes, Kinky is using a feather to tickle a girls butt, Perverted is using the whole darn chicken.

(edited for content)

I just wanted to throw something out there to consider...

What Linden Labs is proposing with this idea, and what most of us see coming as a result, is NOTHING like the atrocities carried out by the Third Reich and his regime. I, too, feel that comparing the two is inappropriate. One is evil incarnate, the other is corporate stupidity.

However, we all need to recognize that, although one is not equal or even similar to the other, the same dangerous slippery slope is being employed. The only difference here is that, at the end of *this* slippery slope, nobody dies or suffers torment. We all just get disgusted and go home, and SL fades into obscurity.

Ok can I make a plea here, can someone from LL please post a sticky confirming that PIOF age verifies people.

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This discussion has made me curious about whether people are actually doing the same stuff in public in other countries that they do in SL.

Do they really not have any difference between public and private overseas? They just do it in the open like the animals in the zoo? In the shops and the offices and government buildings and the schools?