Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Main Forum Thread

Why yes, I teleport to work every day, and use a couple of telephone books to sit on my chair because I'm a meter tall ferret-critter, and do EVERYTHING in SL just like I do in RL. And there's no kids under 18 ANYWHERE I go in RL, because RL is an over-18 environment. Just like SL.
The only person making that claim is you.

As a bit of a movie buff I submit the following (slightly edited to fit the situation)
You see, according to Linden Lab's plan (and the puritans) I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think; I like to have sex. I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kind of guy likes to sit in a hardcore RP sim and wonder - "Gee, should I chase down that one hot looking avvie, back her into a corner and strip her naked then have my way with her?" I WANT sexual overtones. I wanna be able to sit at my computer screen and make my very own spanktra-vison playing SL, OK? I want to be able to see someone with prim-boobs the size of cincinatti (covered mind you) in your usual mature club. I want to run through the streets of SL naked with green Jell-o all over my body reading Playsim magazine . Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to, OK, pal? I've SEEN the future of SL with this new ruleset. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiener" while listening to christan rock.

((guess where I got that from and you get a cookie))


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As a bit of a movie buff I submit the following (slightly edited to fit the situation)
You see, according to Linden Lab's plan (and the puritans) I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think; I like to have sex. I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kind of guy likes to sit in a hardcore RP sim and wonder - "Gee, should I chase down that one hot looking avvie, back her into a corner and strip her naked then have my way with her?" I WANT sexual overtones. I wanna be able to sit at my computer screen and make my very own spanktra-vison playing SL, OK? I want to be able to see someone with prim-boobs the size of cincinatti (covered mind you) in your usual mature club. I want to run through the streets of SL naked with green Jell-o all over my body reading Playsim magazine . Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to, OK, pal? I've SEEN the future of SL with this new ruleset. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiener" while listening to christan rock.

((guess where I got that from and you get a cookie))


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Assumptions:

1. Search is broken.
2. Some people do not care to see anything involving an adult theme.
3. Underage people are gaining access to and using facilities on the main grid.
4. SL as conceived and implemented is an adult's only service.

Solutions:

1. Fix search. Enforce the ToS already in place so that "Mature" terms being used in non-mature searches are punished.

2. Make the new continent PG. Enact a voluntary move for all residents choosing to go there. Initiate a 1:1 land swap for their current land holdings with no tier incurred on either land during the move.

2a. Separate remaining PG parcels/sims attached to mainland and move them en masse and intact to be part of the new PG continent. Replace relocated sims with Linden protected land with a phased in auction over the next 6 months.

2c. Move all welcome area sims to the PG continent and strictly enforce the rules for PG areas. Require age/payment info verification in order to leave the PG continent for all new accounts.

3. Immediately end free/unverified accounts for the SL main grid.

3a. Conceive/enact a new age verification scheme that not only works, but also isn't invasive of data/information that most people are reluctant to provide online let alone a third party, and that also isn't illegal in some countries. Once such a system is in place, begin a phased in requirement that all accounts, not all ready verified, be verified within a given time period or leave SL. Anyone not verified within such a time frame will be suspended and ultimately deleted if failure to comply persists.

3b. Initiate a program allowing anyone with more than one account IE "Alt's" to register them to their primary account at no cost. Allow age/payment verification for the main account to propagate to all "Alt" accounts registered to that main account.

4. Institute an active and ruthless campaign to identify anyone who is underage on the main grid. Immediately delete the account of said individuals and anyone purposefully harboring them. (I personally have reported 2 sets of such individuals and yet the accounts are still active.)

Declaration:
The forced segregation of any segment or part thereof of any population within SL that has not been determined to have broken any rule is unacceptable. SL is an adult community and as such should be treated as such. People should take responsibility for their own actions and LL should take full responsibility for enforcing any and all rules laid out by them that have until this point been largely ignored.

The distinction between Mature and Adult content is nonsensical and not acceptable as by definition there is no such thing.

I personally vow to not agree, not assent and not comply with any rule or guideline that forces one group of individuals to curtail there business, life or experience or to suborn any of their rights to satisfy another when no law, rule or guideline has been broken. I hereby refuse to assist in defining what is or is not adult as it assumes that something is broken with the types of content that needs to be fixed.

Ultimately SL is a make believe community made of multiple parts and multiple personalities. It is not reality, To begin to treat is as such is ludicrous in and of its self. No violence, sex, death or other component to which one may or may not object, portrayed by Avatars can be remotely considered real.

While Linden Labs maintain that they do not wish to merge the main grid with the Teen grid, should such a desire become reality at any future date, implementing the PG continent now as outlined above would create a ready made environment with minimal further work needed to accomplish the goal.

Finally, with the exception of Linden owned land and Linden protected land, there is no such thing as "in public" in SL as all other land is owned by an individual regardless of the use that they may put it to or authorize it to be used for. As such no one has any right whatsoever to complain about anything seen on anyone's land or anything the owner may be doing with or on that land, provided that no rule, no law, and/or no guideline as iterated by LL has been broken.

If "cleaning up" the grid is what is sought as stated, then this is the only sensible way to do it in my opinion. Allowing the ADULT community to police and segregate its self as it see's fit is the only way to not create a bureaucratic and enforcement nightmare for the employees of Linden Labs.

*ahem*.... ummmm... marry me? LOL
With your permission I would like to include this on my next post (if I ever get around to it) at http://ex0dus.nia-inc.net

Have you read his books?
theres more sex in one suppermarket romance novel then 5 books from his gorean sieries combined!!!!!
As for the slavery in his books its a sub theme you can and would find more of a slavery theme in fiction novel about ancent Rome.

I'm not getting it, what part of the word "FICTION" you guys don't understand and find inappropriate, on Gorean or any other kind of role play. Really.

Of course, I don't like Gorean role play either, its just my personal quirk. The deal is, the gorean master wannabe can't force you to take part on his pseudo role play that he is doing on a public shop, now can he?

That's the thing, no one forces you, you come across someone mentally poor who disrespects you at that point, well, click over his profile, hit the mute button and walk away. It's simple as that, you'll not have to deal with the person ever again!

Generalizing the whole Roleplay/BDSM/Clubs/Cultures/Whatsoever to say they are all the same and try to exile them away from the rest of SL. Okay, thats the right thing to do then?

(about a PG continent)

Oh please do not tell me you are that naive!

I said I found it inappropriate for *me*, not generally. I don't want it banned. I want it to not invade my space at inappropriate times and places.

Happily, I did so for another on this forum not so long ago actually. If you like, I can answer the questions here for everyone to hear?... although probably too offtopic.. might make a thread for it, for anyone who has questions about it. Since that's what the forum is for anyway (right?). But yes, would love to meet up with ya. You can let me know if you reached the bathroom intime. (Hope yes? If not, what was your solution?)

I said I found it inappropriate for *me*, not generally. I don't want it banned. I want it to not invade my space at inappropriate times and places. Does a Gorean master think that he has the right to roleplay *his* thing without me having the right to roleplay *mine*?

Valerius Constantine is an Elizabethan Courtier- He thinks of women as magnificent works of art- quite literally, god's gift to mankind. He would sooner die than suffer one to be mistreated in his presence and frankly, they're lucky he doesn't send them off with a good caning to reinforce the lesson in manners!

Now, Why, if I'm faced with someone who feels no compunction about snaring me in *their* story, should I feel any compunction about snaring them in *mine*?

Am I less important than they? Less creative? Less dedicated to my "lifestyle"?

No. Never.

Am I *more* important? Better than the scoundrel?

Possibly, but that isn't my decision to make. All I can do is allow Valerius to defend the Honor of a lady. To do less would be unthinkable.

Does that explain it?

-V-

What is so wrong about nudity? Go to any nude beach in Europe, and you will find all those grandma and grandpa senior citizens laying naked on the beach. Does it make you want to have sex?

It is bizarre to think nudity equals sex or perversion.

Who is the abnormal? Who is the warped one?

What's happened to Blondin by the way, have the "I am Adult content" group kidnapped him and held him for ransom?

10. Thou shalt not attack any Linden else we bring the wrath of the grid up your ass.

This just made me realize where the scale may be. I am a relatively normal girl who enjoys pole-dancing for the visual entertainment of my audience; if they tip well, I reward them with more to see. I have never, nor ever will, get down and do the nasty with them. I have never worked as an escort before, and am not about to start now.

Yet despite this, I am being placed in the same category with people who decapitate people and pleasure themselves in the newly-created openings, or roast naked women on a spit over a roaring flame.

On a scale of 0 to 100, with the puritans at zero and the decapitating necrophiliacs and vorarephiliacs at 100, I don't think I rate much higher than 20 on the kink-meter. This means, to me, that the bar is being placed awfully low, where the upper 80th percentile of kinkiness is getting banished to Pornadelphia.

I see it as a new set of rules that will allow for better enforcement of abuse reports.

LL is in charge. This is their policy. I am only supporting it.

I'm not clicking any of these links, btw.