Feedback on Ad Farm post

/me shrugs

I'm not a communist, but very much a capitalist. Have fun.

You do not really have to explain to me what is real-socialism and communist ideology. I have lived more than half of my life in the one of the Soviets satelites in Eastern Europe. And because I am tolerant, I do not blame your people for devastation of my country because I realise the difference between ideology and ordinary people. You are from Russia so you know well what was total lack of respect to private ownership and civil liberties. My point is that regulations reducing freedom of expression and ownership rights will always turn out against all people.

In our case - once people start forcing others what to do with their land, what object they can place on it, how much they can sell it for, they act as a virtual communists.

Are you? Good! Then support my crusade of free capital alocation!

I am the owner of MyADCOM.

Since the very beginning when I only had 25 advertising locations I followed many of the rules that the community is asking for now.

I do not do, or do not use:
-spinning ads (not so bad but not my preference)
-glowing prims (eyesore)
-particles (unless grieved so I can find my parcel again)
-any audio (annoying for neighbors)
-LM or NC spammers (Nasty things)
-rotating multiple ads per billboard (I agree, yuk)
-encroach upon a neighbor (tho it seems many will provide me with this ToS & CS breach)
-land sales
-land cutting (I have spent 2 years gathering 1 parcel here, 1 parcel there)
-data mining (impressions do this type of invasive act)
-purchase land from (known) land cutters, extortionists or any other unsavories)

I “DO” have floating cubes, which are coming down at the time of this writing. MyADCOM will fully comply with Linden Labs and any Licensing Agreement that my signature is placed upon.

A certain man from Greater Hong Kong started this whole business with putting an excess of 500 micro parcels for sale for just shy of 10K. It was an SL event and I saw this coming 2 years ago because of that single act.

Businesses needs advertising, especially startups. 100K L$+ to even get seen in classifieds is hurtful to smaller very talented residents who own shops.

I have purchased numerous micro parcels, rejoined them and either turn them into parks or sold them to neighbors for a reasonable price.

I have also done charity work for the likes of the “Intellectual Property Rights” campaign, the “Save Bear Sim” campaign and offered free advertising to a number of startup businesses in SL when a cube was not rented.

There are some very real advertisers that have been lumped in with land cutters, extortionists or worse and do not deserve it. I for one feel quite angry that I am wholly committed to my advertising network and have to do a physical inspection at least once a month to every parcel to keep those actually breaking the ToS and CS in check and are always harassed and have to defend myself and educate residents about the differences between “Advertisers” and those others.

Pro-Communist measures will not correct this problem. Extremists are the best spoken in many of these pages. Most of the residents that keep complaining without separating the good real advertisers from the rest of the bad are of the SL social class that quite simply cannot turn a profit for whatever reason it is that compels their adequateness.

With the advent of licensing I am hoping that all advertisers receive as much care and respect as they do give to neighbors. I am talking about the true advertisers. Blocking adverts will simply be unacceptable. That 4 prim cube home of yours with bad free textures isn't a Picasso either!

Should I insert discalaimer here for any individual acts of futilism on my part by what is no doubt the trolls in SL and are now gathering in this forum?

Thank you Jack Linden for all your hard work. This is an immense undertaking that will no doubt have its fair share of tweaking. Looking forward to applying for the MyADCOM advertisers license.

Regards,
Tani

Thats what most of these people like Talarus don't get Tanika... they actually think banning network advertisers will clean up the land. They are too busy rubbing their hands and grinning...
They don't understand that with Linden endorsement the ads will still be there - but they will have to act faster to remove local land-owners blocker's and enclosers. So no more ability to block them from your view.
And it won't stop the extortion practices - they will adjust. It will just enable some licenced advertisers to grow stronger and give them monopoly rights..so they can charge more..and the little guys will have even less chance to promote against bigger creators.

I visit a whole lot of sims..literally hundreds... i have seen many places where Lindens could buy out ads with their own imaginary money and simply put a covenant in place...many sims are mainly residential already. Or they could offer swaps of land and small reimbursement. Or simply put a new feature in the viewer to visually mute (admittedly i know nothing of the tech involved, maybe it can't be done). There are many things they could have done to stop land extortion but chose to start with banning network advertising? I personally suspect another motive is the reason behind it.
But i play within the rules they provide and am grateful for the chance to earn my living in such a great and free way.

Of course, this also applies if I want to construct a wall on my land, with taunting (but TOS-compliant) messages, around the adfarm plot in the middle of my parcel. It's my land, they can move or ask me to change it if they don't like it. More generally, how about if I want to build a giant pile of Cosby cubes on my parcel in the middle of a sim? Or a 50 meter penis (in a mature-rated sim, obviously)? I think most people here know how all these scenarios would end.

I fully understand what you are getting at and I think it'd be great to have unlimited freedom but just as with RL, SL is not always fair and freedom has some limits.That's the reality here. I had to learn to deal with the limitations imposed on what I want to do, so will the advertisers.

Another expert. People owning 512sqm do pay premium membership, my clear-thinking, counter-revolutionary friend.

Whatever you think about me and whether I call people names or not, it is nice to see you are entering into the spirit of this proposal and stating to take away some of your blocks.

I would have hoped as you mentioned earlier that you create your own stuff in world you would have seen the upset that destroying the mainland would cause people and made your own decisions to change your advert style earlier.

The only self interest here is on the part of people who wish to carry on doing the same things they are, with complete disregard for everyother user.

The difference between a newbie build and yours, robo's etc. is the newbie built it for their own enjoyment and the build will evolve over time into something beautiful as their skills progress.
Huge coloured adblocks are built by people, who at best are inconsiderate and could do a better job if they wanted to or at worst have made deliberate efforts to apply pressure to their neighbors.

You seem like a reasonable person, attempting to create a nice business, if only other advertisers had the same ideas of how to act, then none of this would be necessary.

I also hope that reasonably sized single sided adverts will be placed only against roadsides and infohubs or linden builds, which should benifit advertisers as no one would be able to block them.
Hopefully these areas would be of higher traffic as well which should help in the case of advertising

I would like to state that this man has a pillar on the roadside near me, it is very large in comparison to the sizes I feel are necessary, however at least he has made an effort with the design.

I notice people stating about the past, how he used to charge huge prices when he was allowed, but that was then and now he seems to making an effort.
Which is far more than can be said of other advertisers who instead have stated they will continue business as normal right up to the deadline of October 1st.

Which suggests he is trying to create a genuine advertising business, and concerned about lossing it, not profiteering from extortion.

Everyone has the chance to change and act responsibly, even Mr Marx some just cannot bring themselves to do it though.

No. Get your ugly 100m high building out of MY pixels!

You are absolutelly right. SL is not a real life. Rational and balanced opinion. Liberty first!

Because we choose to care... You sound like Hillary Clinton. No you have not choose to care, you have choose to opress liberty of others. Objects on someone elses parcel is not your business. Talking aboutpublic good does not make you a better carer, my friend. Consistency!

I asure you that It will not be a real market, but a distorted market. Just like now. But more distortions thanks to this silly advertising ban.

The reasons to regulate advertising are completely different than the reasons to stop banking and gambling. Banking and gambling are legal issues. Ads are a matter of customer satisfaction. People (Linden Lab's customers) don't like certain types of ads so LL is trying to make the majority of it's customers happier so they stick around longer.

I personally have nothing against small plots and can think of many uses for them, as long as they aren't used for harrassment or extortion.
I also have no problem with market prices--even bought a Bay City lot. It's just a matter of whether they are being used to harrass the neighbors into paying obscene amounts of money to buy them. Some cost more than a Bay City lot, even at the crazy prices BC lots are set at now.

Linden Lab does exist because of commercial activities, but if there's no one around to buy or sell things because they're sick of living next to a giant, ugly, spinning, lag-inducing, view-blocking, piece of trash, then Linden Lab doesn't make money.

And to change gears ...
An ad is still an ad even if it is about religion. A RL city isn't going to change its policy on the location, content, and size of signs just because it's religious, and the same should apply to LL. Anything to the contrary WOULD be discrimination.

Lastly, just because you have been harrassed in RL or SL by someone being pushy or have heard someone say something discriminatory about another religion doesn't mean that all people of their religion are the same. You just don't notice the people who aren't acting that way BECAUSE they are not acting that way.

Okay, clarification for you: an adult roleplaying a non-sexual child avatar. Which is ok under the TOS, the Lindens have even said so time and again.

Suddenly people painting ad farmers as such pillars of SL. Obviously because they are now angling to get a license to continue destroying SL for the rest of us. Fact is ad farmers have done a lot of damage to Secondlife and have earned the most severe form of punishment.

Ad farms need to go. Networked, non networked, all of them. Only a business owner on a mainland 512 minimum parcel with that business being located there should be allowed an advertisement sign on their property. And it needs to be in good taste. The rest of the ads need to be deleted along with the accounts that own them. Anyone that wants to have lots of spammy ad signs needs to buy an island and put up all the ugly ads they like on their sim where nobody will go because it looks stupid.

Now the people that have worked hard to ruin Secondlife, such as putting up the black faces with the blatant anti Semitic Star of David in punched eye configuration? These people need to be deleted from Secondlife period. Let them eat open sim. Why Linden Lab allows such obvious aryan nation types to remain in SL is beyond comprehension.

I think most of us would much rather live in a virtual world created by Mari than one by land extortionists.

Not really, there's an open source patch for the viewer side already, it's just a matter of adding a new per-parcel table to the sim's local database and a packet to pass a fairly small chunk of data [a bitmap per parcel] to the client when you enter the sim.

Because you can't *just* kick the griefer's asses.

"Good morning, is this the Planning Commissioner's office? Where is the Marxist philosophy reading section? "

After watching your behavior here, I can't imagine any Linden who'd reading this will have any compunction at all about reverting all your properties to Governor Linden come the 1st of October. Are you *trying* to get shut down?

So if second life isnt real life, then why cant they just say what content they dont want? Lucky Luke, can you make up your mind please? Is it real life so you want freedom of markets and capitalism or is it not real life where you have to live by whatever rules the owners of the platform decide?

I'm confused. Let me get it right and correct me if I'm wrong. Second Life doesnt need to conform to the conventions and laws of real life but it also cant be completely fantasy because that doesnt agree with you either. I dont get it.

As an aside, I vote against anyone who displays incitement to hatred adverts like these even being allowed a sniff of a license.

You (and others you speak for) prefer sterile, regulated virtual environment, I prefer liberty. Freedom of choice for everyone. Even for virtual communists.

Robo just needs a dying gasp Argent. He knows he is on the Most Wanted list already and nothing can change that in 3 weeks, so is having what fun he can before that time.

Jeez! Another expert!