Feedback on Ad Farm post

Your dreaming or just lying, I never touched the ground. You can have it b4 a licensed advertiser gets it though. $L4999 for you.

Somehow, I don't think licensed advertisers are going to be needing adplots in the middle of people's builds. But, then you would know that, since that's not why you're doing what you are doing anyway.

I'd give you the "Artful Dodger" title, but there's really nothing "Artful" about you.

lol see what i mean?
Dytska Vieria are you seriously suggesting that your self- interest is more important than any other persons?
You may not like Robo's business methods but he works with the system provided to make money... its called Capitalism and Freedom.
If beautifying the landscape was the main aim of all this..then there is many newbie and amateur buildings that would be banned
And i'm not surprised he adopts such tactics when people offer such abuse as Esthers and yours.

PS i'm not waiting for deadlines and i'm up to sims starting with F (clearing my ads off) If you have one of my plots nearby you wish to grab please IM me (without abuse please). Else please be patient its taking days of work.

Borrowing someone else's posts, or forgot to change out of an alt?

At any rate, ya, the SL of today *isn't* the same one that it was in 2003 -- or even 2006 when I joined. Many things once allowed are now disallowed. This is but one of them. Lfe will go on without ad farms and land extortion, just as it's gone on without casinos, banks, and sexual ageplayers.

Mari

Actually, my interests in this matter lay with the majority of people who do not like ad farmers/extortionists and their polution. Who wants to see a XXX advert in the middle of a forest? I don't care about anybody's business models, but I do care about happiness in others. My land and builds are open for anybody to explore and I think it is a disappointment to see things that simply do not belong there.

To me, making SL a beautiful place of excitement and imagination and pleasure is more important than anything else.

Thank you for taking the initiative to clear your ads off your parcels in advance. That is very nice of you.

P.S. YES! I am a tree hugger and I like nature. It is wonderful that for some people who may never be able to see nature in the Real World at least have an avenue in the Virtual World to experience it.

What total BS. Second Life's entrepreneurial class is busy creating, building, and selling. They are making clothing, scripting devices, building houses, developing island and mainland communities. They are building this world we choose to spend much of our time in. They are genuine free market entrepreneurs. You and your fellow adfarmers are the virtual world equivalent of protection rackets shaking down the real wealth creators. You are not building anything.

Exactly, this particular parcel is in the middle of a lot of trees, a garden with a gazebo, pond, etc. Nobody comes around here that I know of that is looking for advertisements.

Anyway, this will be a graveyard on October 1st.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3163/2842168246_19e1fd6e99.jpg

An epitaph is forthcoming. For now, the grave has been dug, just hanging around for the funeral.

basically the presence of an add should result of an agreement with all the concerned neighbours (who have the add in sight from their land). Only exception, the entrance of a shop, should be kept reasonable in size and aspect. This means that it must be in the style of the region or neighbouring. For instance no fluo or "modern" add in a nature setting.

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I think your concern doesnt bother anyone mr extortioner, for me it seems like whining anyway, the sooner llc bans people like you the better. For every clown like you at least 100 new creative paying residents !

btw ... relative of that other extortioner "Ausprim Wallyard (supplier of overpriced microplots) " ? Looks like the two of you were born in the same cave.

I encourage every resident to avoid buying from these extortioning clowns and spread on the word to all others. Let them bleed on the tier

I am not an ad-farmer, my revolutionary friend. Just mind your own metrosexual business and you will be able to manage your emotions much better, believe me.

The fact that you use abusive expressions such as extortioner or a clown is clear evidence how you personally understand community standart in communication. Double standards - one for you and one for others - how typical for all virtual communists who are sticking up their big noses into someone elses business.

This thread went Jerry Springer eons ago. Surely it's time to collect the opinions and mercifully shoot it.

Mr. Termagant, thou dost protest too much, methinks.

I also think it is just time to stop feeding the troll.

I have right to my opinion and decission to stop feeding the troll is purely up to me, not up to revolutionaire Kathy Morellet.

You may think so but I would beg to differ on that particular point, The residents who sit on 512 or 1024sqm outway by far the number of "advertisers and other business" they are the main source of all inworld business revenues.

They pay far more to LL in tier per sqm than larger plot owners and without them the commercial attraction of SL would be non existant.

You and your sort have driven to many of them away, is my guess and that is probably the reason LL is about to stop your actions!

Not because a few people in a forum see you for what you are , but because you are a nuisance in the big scheme of things.

That's bullshit, like everything you've posted before. Residents "sitting on their 512 or 1024" create revenues by paying their tier. Many of them create revenues with their shops. They buy furniture, houses, plants etc. creating revenues.

It's obvious that the only revenues that concern you are YOUR revenues. I'm sure LL wouldn't take action if they didn't expect any positive effect - on "public park lovers" as well as on the market.

Hmm well I dont want to share anymore thoughts.
Just one more..
Ad farmers are residents as well, they have the SAME rights as us.
if they buy a piece of mainland, they can do whatever they want.
Ofcourse, placing these stupid ads is a bad decission, but they paid for the land.
Either you leave when its blocking the vieuw or you ask the adfarmer to change a few things.

With this new policy LL is excluding ANOTHER group of residents.
We had the gambling group a few months ago...

So maybe its wise to find another solution?
remember that SecondLife needs Ads, to keep our l$ running.

Personally if I had a club or service I would not place those big ads, but again if one paid for the land, one can place ads on it.

I will shut my mouth now, since not all point of vieuws are being accepted here.

Yes, they are residents as well, and they have the same PRIVILEGES as the rest of us (no one has any "rights" in SL, except LL), but they ALSO have the same RESPONSIBILITIES as the rest of us to operate within the rules. That's the difference. Adfarmers are NOT operating within the rules, and are thus shirking their responsibilities. Yeah, they paid for the land. So did we. According to the ToS, we have the privilege to live our Second Life free from scams and harassment (no, really! that's what it says). Leave when someone harasses me? What a novel concept. Many people HAVE left already; no longer paying tier or even bothering to log in. As for asking an adfarmer to "change a few things", that little ditty has been nothing more than a silent refrain.



Don't forget the pyramid scheme con artists, and the Ponzi scheme operators *cough* "banks". Yes, I hope they continue on this trend; excluding people who are solely here to grief, rip off, scam, extort, rob, harass, et cetera ad nauseum, is PERFECTLY OK by me, and likely, everyone else, too. Well, except for those who get busted for the crimes.



Why? When the ones being implemented are effective? Yeah, sure, SL needs ads. You have Classifieds and Search. If you want more, make or join an affiliate network. Put up signs over your store. Advertise on SLX. Still plenty of legit advertising available, not to mention that ALL of those individually work an order of magnitude better than ALL adfarmer ad networks combined.



That's called "irony". You wouldn't use it. Who would? Why not?

Paying for the land doesn't give one the privilege of harassing, extorting, and spamming the neighbors.



All views ARE accepted here; I don't see anyone censoring posts. However, so is discussion and debate on the merits and fallacies of said views.

The fact that you use abusive expressions such as extortioner or a clown is clear evidence how you personally understand community standart in communication. Double standards - one for you and one for others - how typical for all virtual communists who are sticking up their big noses into someone elses business.

I am sure LL will be delighted to see you telling everyone that they are complicit in harassment and extortion of their customer base.

Yes, I am sure it will go on. More regulated, more sterile, more suitable for virtual communists. More suitable for you.

The 'responsibilities' you are talking about is just an empty phrase. Common one. Responsibility is the only the one which is clearly defined by Lindens, otherwise it is voluntary act of free individual.

The unpleasant truth is, that Linden Lab completely failed in punishing those who did not followed the rules (how many AR reports have you personally filled out without any response from Lindens?) and know Linden Lab tries to cover its failure and populisticaly punishes ALL advertising businesses and causes complete chaos in the industry. They did it to the banks, casinos, they did it to all of us with VAT and they are going to do it again. What I say is, that NO business can feel safe in Second Life anymore.