Jack - Why allow child avatars on Zindra?

Generally the other half is an adult avatar, so should we call for a ban on adult avatrs? You're the person trying to undermine the platform Lias. I completely agree with the sexual ageplay ban but setting up false sceanrios to try and highlight said situation is lower than low.

As is purposely wearing a child avatar and 'exploring' Zindra where the chances are that one would encounter adult sexual content.

Who did that? Name names, Senator, or yield the floor.

There are chances one could encounter adult sexual content anywhere on the grid.

The chances are far less in the newly added, unclaimed regions of Zindra.

Millia
-700 requests for Zindra Adult content land in one day (and more coming in)
-Looking at the requests filled by Linden Lab - all explicit content so far
-Linden Lab's latest blog post that they had to create more Zindra land to accommodate all of the legitimate adult content moves.

We have to look ahead to the end of July when most of these requests are met. At that point most of the mainland adult sexual content will be transferred to Zindra - as it is going - over 2,000 business by the end of July. If wandering around one continent puts you in a position for encountering over 2,000 sexually explicit business' - why would you do so in a child avatar?(No answer forthcoming) Linden Lab needs to make it clear to these child avatar people that it inappropriate to explore the Adult continent as a child.

What about after the transfers? (^_^)

During this transfer event, we're seeing the people that MUST be in Zindra. For argument's sake, they're the ones with the most extreme content. But once they're done the place will be open to everyone to buy land there. (^_^)

That said. The real land buyers will probably even things out as a result of paranoid residential parcel owners...

Clothing and furniture stores that want to be sure they're getting traffic from serious customers and maybe offer a sex pose or two or a naughty-top T-shirt.

People who will buy land and use it for PG purposes under the idea that they don't want to ever be harassed for a little mature/adult slip-up.

People who will establish their PG/Mature locations there because they see an escape from disposable-account griefings since you need to be verified to be on the continent.

... And many of the other purposes that Adult land can, may, and will serve.

See... It's as many people have said before. Adult isn't sex and Zindra isn't Adult ONLY. Really... I don't see what you have to lose here by allowing people to spend time on safe land. It's been this way on Mature land for 6 years now. In addition, they're already adding sims to the east and are still keeping parcels spaced out. So, this isn't packing in the porn so tightly that it's completely unavoidable. (^_^)

Since a lot of these places are clubs, imagine the terror if they actually did pack them in, side-by-side, with a limit of 40 avatars. You know personally what happens when that limit is hit by one popular location while another is trying to host an event. Do you seriously think LL is repeating that history? (=_=)

Sorry to say this, but Lias, it's not failing as you had hoped. The sky is not falling. And, it's turning in to plain old fugly mainland already. You're not getting the disaster you wanted to see. (^_^)

.... Actually... It may be worse than we thought....



Mismatched land textures... And...



Grainy, low resolution terrain maps! YYYYEEEEEWWWWW!!!! (>_<

If that happens, then I guess you won't see many kid toons wandering around Zindra. Not that you're likely to see many kid toons *wandering around* Zindra, anyway. They're more likely to be going straight to non-sexual areas that happen to be in Zindra.

You're getting yourself all worked up around something that isn't going to happen. Why, I won't speculate, but it's really counterproductive.

So, but your statement, all adults are actually pedophiles.. there is one community.. you can identify them because they are wearing ADULT AVATARS. If you don't want to be painted by the same brush, then you should do something else in SL.. like perhaps staying in PG land and being a church lady.

Why would someone need to go buy these things wearing a child avatar?
And none of these PG/Mature purposes include anything that involves someone rping as a child. Guns, sex beds, latex cut-out suits, sex devices - no child would need. Why would you?
No the sky is not falling - you and your ilk are just set on repeating the same 'mistakes' you made in the past because you have not learned your lesson. So we will, once again, pay the price for your kink.

Because their character in Second Life happens to be a kid toon.

That's like asking why I couldn't switch to a human avatar to go to a Gorean sim. Argent Stonecutter is not a human.

If a kid has to fight off zombies, would you suggest doing it with something other than a gun? A dolly, perhaps, or a kid-safe lightweight plastic baseball bat?

Maybe they went to buy a gift card for me?

Guns are okay for child avatars, btw.

Thank you for the honest answer Argent. But you have to be kidding. If one is roleplaying as a child - you have no need for these items at all.
If your so attached to your avatar and refuse to switch it - then do not make any attempt to enter places that it is NOT ACCEPTABLE. Or go to areas that there is over a 50% chance of encountering Adult content. That was LL's motivation for moving the adult content to one area - so people do not 'accidentally' encounter it. If you age verify and teleport to Zindra - then your asking for it. To do so while RPing as a child is inappropriate.

Well for you perhaps Millia. I am not endorsing child soldiers as a fun RP. From what I have read it is quite a despicable practice. And I know your going to say there is no TOS against it so its open season for RPing as children with guns (we will not bring up common decency since it is not a factor). And yet there is still no reason for anyone to put on a child avatars to go to Zindra to get a gun (we have xstreet for direct delivery shopping - and you do not even have to verify your account to get it)

There is nothing that anybody truly needs in SL at all. Doesn't matter what their avie looks like. All of SL from PG all the way to the shores of Zindra is a matter of marketing to keep people coming back.

If a furry were attempting to enter a Gorean sim as a furry, the landowner is within their rights to say "No Furries". That is no different than the rights of all individual parcel owners on Zindra to specify who is allowed there.

Why are the rights of individuals difficult to grasp?

No, I'm not kidding, and don't call me Shirley.
What items? Sexual items, yes, but now you're assuming that there's only sexual items for sale in Zindra.
Indeed, I don't go to Gorean sims. Because *Argent Stonecutter* can't go to those sims. But if I had a character that was a kid, say "Peter Rabbit", and was visiting my friend "Tommy Brock" who happened to own half a sim in Zindra, there's no reason I shouldn't. If Peter Rabbit needs to buy a gun to protect himself in Farmer McGregor's garden, he needs to go to Zindra to buy it.

If course not. Peter Rabbit would only go to places in Zindra that don't contain any sexual content.
If Zindra turns out to be so sexualized that even visiting Tommy Brock's Badger Den will lead to Peter Rabbit being depicted in the presence of secual content or behaviour, why then, Peter Rabbit wouldn't go. But if that's not he case, there's no reason for him not to visit there.

Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc.

Not just child soldiers. It could be drug gangs, like in Robocop 2.

It does matter. That is why there are Linden Lab sanctions against child avatars.
Why is common decency hard to grasp for you? Why depict a child in an adult content parcel? Because it is your right to do so?
Linden Lab took away everyone's right to create a concentration camp in SL and fill it will dying prisoners. Rally for that cause if your only concern are rights of avatars.

What is all this talk about rabbits? The convo is about human child avatar people purposely wearing those avatars into Zindra where it is shaping up to be a mostly adult content.
You have already established that there will be no way of telling what content is on what parcel. So how would you know? Why temp fate by wearing child avatars in areas that more-than-likely contain adult content? Is it a chance your willing to take? Or is that you want to wear a child avatar and encounter adult content as part of some RP kink? If so m then that is highly inappropriate - and needs t be sanctioned so you all know that it is not acceptable.

The parcel description, and if you're already familiar with the content of the parcel before it moved to Zindra.

If something is not sexual in origin why does it matter what avatar you are using to go to the store in? Should I have to change when I decide to go buy a funny gesture?

For some things it helps even to be wearing the avatar you want to use it with. For example, if I am buying a chair I probably want to make sure the sit pose works with my avatar's height.

What rabbits? Rabbit's just a name. I didn't say he was a rabbit, you're jumping to conclusions. Now back to the point: if I had a character that was a kid, say "Peter Rabbit", and was visiting my friend "Tommy Brock" who happened to own half a sim in Zindra, there's no reason I shouldn't. If Peter Rabbit needs to buy a gun to protect himself in Farmer McGregor's garden, he needs to go to Zindra to buy it.
Quit making stuff up. I said no such thing. Peter Rabbit know that there's no sexual content in Tommy Brock's area, because his friend Tommy Brock wouldn't lie to him. Peter Rabbit is going to a parcel that he knows, I know, Tommy Brock knows, and YOU know because I just told you, that there's no sexual content in it. Why shouldn't he go there? Because four kilometers away from Tommy's den there's a replica of Taipei Airport?

Well... If guns are bad, how's about a hand cannon? (^_^)

I think I need one of those.

If the chair has sex poses in it why would you go buy it as a child avatar? And no one is going to be selling children's furniture in a furniture store in Zindra. Because if they had a furniture store in Zindra it was probably because they have some furniture with sex balls in it - then a child avatar does not need to be in that store anyway. Why not just go to the regular mainland and buy furniture (you all are sounding like the people that buy hustler for the articles).