Jack - Why allow child avatars on Zindra?
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Lias Leandros
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07-05-2009 08:47
From: Ciaran Laval Immy is welcome to visit my adult land, she just needs to not shop at my adult mall, half of the sim is residential.
As Immy is over 18, if she accidentally lands in my adult mall I'll trust she will about face and not stay there. Good Luck with that. Since she is so astute with laws and the TOS - I would rather it be in writing so she can memorize it and not show up at all in a child avatar. Problem solved.
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Caitlyn Clawtooth
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07-05-2009 08:48
From: Lias Leandros If you do NOT turn on ADULT in your parcel search - you will not see any land marked adult. In search. Do I see pockets of nothing if I walk by a parcel marked as adult in the parcel search? Maybe you are different than everyone else, but I have never ran a search on something that I found wandering around (maybe because, oh, I already knew where it WAS?). It is not even a valid argument that the option is there. LL has said that in 60 days all of the ads listed as 'adult' would be listed as 'other'.
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Lias Leandros
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07-05-2009 08:49
From: Imnotgoing Sideways No. That was protected land. Dick Cockenstein was violating the CS. Kid avatar or not. (^_^) Adult content (and people) in Zindra should not be in jeopardy because you insist upon RPing as a child in Zindra.
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Caitlyn Clawtooth
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07-05-2009 08:51
From: Lias Leandros That was wonderful. I was going to look up child labor laws in the US and wave the flag some more. But yours was much better. [LOLs that Lias completely did not get it.  ]
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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07-05-2009 08:51
From: Lias Leandros After that wonderful expose in 2007 - I had hoped not to know anything more about child avatars. But here they are again - Child avatars and sex once again. Pushing the envelope, insisting upon entering Zindra while knowing that over 700 requests for extreme adult content will be filled to move there. So after two years, masses of ARs and LL sanctions - child avatars still insist upon rubbing up against Adult content. If I RP as a Unicorn - I do not have to wear my unicorn AV anywhere but in the enchanted forest where my RP takes place. There is no reason these people cannot change avatars before entering Zindra to make sure they do not encounter Adult sexual content while in a child avatar. They just want to exercise their 'right' to do so - no matter if its an inappropriate depiction of children or not - or that may be the goal. 2007 was over sexual ageplayers. They were different people from the general child avatars at large. Still are. Considering, most of them are gone. (=_=)
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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07-05-2009 08:52
From: Lias Leandros Adult content (and people) in Zindra should not be in jeopardy because you insist upon RPing as a child in Zindra. Since when was Zindra in jeopardy? (O.o)
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Lias Leandros
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07-05-2009 08:52
From: Caitlyn Clawtooth In search. but I have never ran a search on something that I found wandering around (maybe because, oh, I already knew where it WAS?). If wandering in ZIndra - you stand the chance of encountering Adult sexual content - obviously. So why wander in Zindra as a small child? From: someone It is not even a valid argument that the option is there. LL has said that in 60 days all of the ads listed as 'adult' would be listed as 'other'. Ads, I assume you mean classifieds. So if Adult becomes OTHER, then why wear a child avatar to a parcel marked OTHER?
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Caitlyn Clawtooth
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07-05-2009 08:54
From: Ciaran Laval "[22:16] L... L.......: to keep the child avatars out we have to have impromptu Sex Hud parades through Zindra ... [22:17] L... L.......: if you run into one of the little bastards get a picture of them next to the parade *.*.*" Of course you realise if we are there the whole reason will be to AR her pretty transparent griefing. 
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Lias Leandros
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07-05-2009 08:54
From: Imnotgoing Sideways 2007 was over sexual ageplayers. They were different people from the general child avatars at large. Still are. Considering, most of them are gone. (=_=) You joke.
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Caitlyn Clawtooth
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07-05-2009 09:01
From: Lias Leandros You joke. No, it is pretty well established that people who are into sexual ageplay are not in the same community as people who roleplay as children. Wait a sec ... Most adults in SL roleplay as someone in their prime. Say in their 30s. People that play SL are in RL a range of ages. So ageplay, right? Then some of them have sex in SL. *gasp* They are sexual ageplayers right? Why not? Either way, does that not taint every adult AV in second life?
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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07-05-2009 09:01
From: Ciaran Laval Immy is welcome to visit my adult land, she just needs to not shop at my adult mall, half of the sim is residential.
As Immy is over 18, if she accidentally lands in my adult mall I'll trust she will about face and not stay there. Truly... The moment Little Immy spots poseballs I immediately run, fly, or TP away and review the LM or seach text to see what the parcel owner is actually running there. Pink/Blue poseballs don't always mean sex, but, it's how I avoid troubles. (^_^) I been in SL for over a year, and rarely if never landed in such a parcel accidentally. Usually the parcel description says enough. At the same time, I shop in stores that cater to my clothing tastes which are often in combination with RP sims, dance clubs, and the like. It takes only a slight bit of logic to see where I shouldn't venture into given my appearance. So, I don't. Really, it's not as difficult and damning as one person is making it sound. (^_^)y
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Argent Stonecutter
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07-05-2009 09:06
From: Lias Leandros Hi Ciaran. This 'exploit' would not have been possible if the person that was wearing the child avatar erred on the side of caution and decided not to wear a child avatar to a place known and Zindra the Adult Continent. He was wearing that cock-suit on protected land whether Mari was there or not.
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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07-05-2009 09:06
From: Lias Leandros You joke. Nope. Totally honest. I've had inroads in both communities. In most cases, they're quite separate and rarely meet eye-to-eye. And, there's still little to nothing left of (sexual)ageplay on the grid over the past year. What little is left involves people with avatars that would NEVER venture out to mainland, PG/Mature/Adult or otherwise. (^_^)y
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Milla Janick
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07-05-2009 09:07
From: Melodie Darwin How would anybody know if there are 'pedo ARs' daily on the grid? The indicent reports on the support page: http://secondlife.com/support/incidentreport.phpActually, it doesn't list all ARs, just the ones that stand up. One could assume there are more ARs files daily, but probably weren't valid.
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07-05-2009 09:10
From: Lias Leandros After that wonderful expose in 2007 - I had hoped not to know anything more about child avatars. So why are you bringing them up again. It's YOUR actions that are bringing them up, YOUR collusion with your boyfriend and Prok to create the illusion of a problem. From: someone There is no reason these people cannot change avatars before entering Zindra to make sure they do not encounter Adult sexual content while in a child avatar. There's no reason these people can't wear their yellow stars before leaving the ghetto to make sure they're not undermining our Christian Reich.
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07-05-2009 09:11
From: Lias Leandros So if Adult becomes OTHER, then why wear a child avatar to a parcel marked OTHER? Other is the default for all parcels.
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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07-05-2009 09:15
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07-05-2009 09:16
Benford's law of controversy: Passion is inversely proportional to the amount of real information available.
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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07-05-2009 09:19
From: Milla Janick The indicent reports on the support page: http://secondlife.com/support/incidentreport.phpActually, it doesn't list all ARs, just the ones that stand up. One could assume there are more ARs files daily, but probably weren't valid. At the moment, it looks like it's listing more adult avatars having a negative impact on PG regions than kid avatars hitting Mature and Adult ones. (^_^) We should ban adult avatars. They're the troublemakers. It worked for IMVU. =^-^=
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Lias Leandros
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07-05-2009 09:19
From: Caitlyn Clawtooth No, it is pretty well established that people who are into sexual ageplay are not in the same community as people who roleplay as children. Of course they are, silly. Ageplayers are with they ageplayers. Some are more sexual than the others - that is the only difference. From: someone Most adults in SL roleplay as someone in their prime. Say in their 30s. People that play SL are in RL a range of ages. So ageplay, right? Let me explain. Ageplay is a BDSM word meaning two adults and one taking on the role of a child - not wearing child avatars. LL took the word ageplay and used it in place of pedophilia and child pornography. Ageplay just sounded better for their PR department.
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07-05-2009 09:41
From: Lias Leandros Of course they are, silly. Ageplayers are with they ageplayers. Some are more sexual than the others - that is the only difference. Let me explain. Ageplay is a BDSM word meaning two adults and one taking on the role of a child - not wearing child avatars. LL took the word ageplay and used it in place of pedophilia and child pornography. Ageplay just sounded better for their PR department. No. They've been split communities with very little to no intermingling. Unless you're actually in the kid community, don't consider yourself to be knowledgeable in any way on the subject. You already assumed that I'm sexually involved with people in my friends list. That's a first indicator of how wrong you are. Same goes with your point of view between two communities. (=_=) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy
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Melodie Darwin
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07-05-2009 09:41
From: Milla Janick The indicent reports on the support page: http://secondlife.com/support/incidentreport.phpActually, it doesn't list all ARs, just the ones that stand up. One could assume there are more ARs files daily, but probably weren't valid. Still does not support the claim made that there are "pedo AR's daily", unless those are the staged ones.
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Lias Leandros
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07-05-2009 09:47
From: Imnotgoing Sideways No. They've been split communities with very little to no intermingling. Unless you're actually in the kid community, don't consider yourself to be knowledgeable in any way on the subject. You already assumed that I'm sexually involved with people in my friends list. That's a first indicator of how wrong you are. Same goes with your point of view between two communities. (=_=) It is one community. You may turn a blind eye to their activities - or excuse it away (because your so good at that) but they walk amongst you. They are easy to pick out because they are wearing CHILD AVATARS. If you do not want to be painted with the same brush then be something else in SL. Or do not post about engaging in 'barely legal kink' - Or enter a continent clearly marked Adult in a child avatar just because you can.
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07-05-2009 09:51
From: Lias Leandros It is one community. You may turn a blind eye to their activities - or excuse it away (because your so good at that) but they walk amongst you. They are easy to pick out because they are wearing CHILD AVATARS. If you do not want to be painted with the same brush then be something else in SL. Or do not post about engaging in 'barely legal kink' - Or enter a continent clearly marked Adult in a child avatar just because you can. Barely legal has nothing to do with child avatars. 18 years old is adult in the U.S. (=_=) I do not turn a blind eye. You're not reading. I repeat. I have had inroads in both communities. They are separate. One or two people will be in both communities, but, not without friction from each. (=_=) Now... Unless you have an alt planted in the kid community and can back up what you say, swallow your invented reality. It's not helping your solo crusade. (=_=)
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07-05-2009 09:53
From: Lias Leandros It is one community. Damn, I'm out of Joe McCarthy pictures. If you can't show us your list of "known communists... er pedophiles... working for the state department... er... you know", you shouldn't expect to be treated as any less of a crank than Tailgunner Joe McCarthy was when he made similar abusive and unprovable claims.
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