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Pserendipity Daniels
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10-05-2009 13:49
From: Rhonda Huntress Yes, but then that takes a level of emotional commitment to do.
I still feel that sex without emotion is still just sex. "Oh, God, Yeah!!!" is better than meh, but is still just sex. If you can form a word at all within the 15 minutes prior to me letting you reach the final 'O', it is not quite "good sex" as I see it. It requires a high level of trust and commitment for me to take someone to sub space. But once you do it the first time ... well, there are no words to describe the feelings. Self-praise is no recommendation. Pep (Hearsay evidence is not admissible.  )
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-05-2009 13:56
From: Rhonda Huntress If you can form a word at all within the 15 minutes prior to me letting you reach the final 'O', it is not quite "good sex" as I see it. LOL! What an interesting test! I'd never have passed that one in SL . . . and maybe not that often even in RL. But hey, I'm chatty. Dana, I certainly agree that the best sex is brain sex, but for me I think there is to much synaesthesia involved for JUST brain sex to take me where RL sex does. Sights, sounds, smells, touch, taste . . . in addition to the imagination and the heart. Or, maybe I just haven't ever had the right partner?
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Lessie Lexington
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10-05-2009 14:05
From: Pserendipity Daniels ... without having to worry about someone looking over your shoulder and asking why you have no clothes on.
I'm don't know whether you are saying this because you have a good memory, but this is a big part of it. Pep, when you are nice and when you are helpful, you make me sorry that I get angry with you. I wish you were like this all the time with *everyone*. Knowing you is like being on a seesaw.
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Dana Hickman
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10-05-2009 14:39
From: Rhonda Huntress Yes, but then that takes a level of emotional commitment to do.
It's more like digital Tantra, and many won't allow themselves to learn how to "get there" without dragging their heart in tow. I only said what's needed, not that everyone can make that happen for themself. From: Scylla Rhiadra Dana, I certainly agree that the best sex is brain sex, but for me I think there is to much synaesthesia involved for JUST brain sex to take me where RL sex does. Sights, sounds, smells, touch, taste . . . in addition to the imagination and the heart.
Or, maybe I just haven't ever had the right partner? Surely it may not take you to where RL sex does (doesn't for me either), but in lack of a physical presence it can be pretty close. The woman I learned a lot from could almost literally make you smell, feel, or taste something by her sheer descriptive, poetic genius. No, it can never be a replacement for the RL thing, but it's possible to have it be a beautiful and moving substitute.
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Pserendipity Daniels
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10-05-2009 15:12
From: Lessie Lexington I'm don't know whether you are saying this because you have a good memory, but this is a big part of it.
Pep, when you are nice and when you are helpful, you make me sorry that I get angry with you. I wish you were like this all the time with *everyone*.
Knowing you is like being on a seesaw. I am always the same. Pep (It is how people read what I say that changes.) PS And yes, I have a very long and very good memory.
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10-05-2009 15:13
From: Scylla Rhiadra Or, maybe I just haven't ever had the right partner?
This.
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Lessie Lexington
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10-05-2009 15:31
From: Pserendipity Daniels I am always the same.
Pep (It is how people read what I say that changes.)
/me laughs You are so full of it!
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Smith Peel
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10-05-2009 15:44
From: Rhonda Huntress If you can form a word at all within the 15 minutes prior to me letting you reach the final 'O', it is not quite "good sex" as I see it. It requires a high level of trust and commitment for me to take someone to sub space. But once you do it the first time ... well, there are no words to describe the feelings. No offense, but not everybody wants to go to sub space 
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-05-2009 16:00
From: Lessie Lexington I'm don't know whether you are saying this because you have a good memory, but this is a big part of it.
Pep, when you are nice and when you are helpful, you make me sorry that I get angry with you. I wish you were like this all the time with *everyone*.
Knowing you is like being on a seesaw. The many faces of Pep . . . (Why do I have the sense that there is a lot of VERY interesting history floating just under the surface here? What a shame I can't take one of you out in SL, get you drunk, and wheedle the whole sordid story out of you . . .  )
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10-05-2009 16:02
From: Dana Hickman Surely it may not take you to where RL sex does (doesn't for me either), but in lack of a physical presence it can be pretty close. The woman I learned a lot from could almost literally make you smell, feel, or taste something by her sheer descriptive, poetic genius. No, it can never be a replacement for the RL thing, but it's possible to have it be a beautiful and moving substitute. kk, I can buy this. I certainly do believe in the power of language. (We need a thread on this: "Try Out Your Best Cybering Line Here!" Think Millie would object?  )
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10-05-2009 16:08
From: Scylla Rhiadra We need a thread on this: "Try Out Your Best Cybering Line Here!" How do you pick just one line? (Well maybe the only line I can manage to PG-up???)
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-05-2009 16:08
Well, I suppose that MAY be the case, in fact. But I am also probably being unfair. It's complicated . . .
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10-05-2009 16:10
From: Dana Hickman It's more like digital Tantra, and many won't allow themselves to learn how to "get there" without dragging their heart in tow. I only said what's needed, not that everyone can make that happen for themself.
Surely it may not take you to where RL sex does (doesn't for me either), but in lack of a physical presence it can be pretty close. The woman I learned a lot from could almost literally make you smell, feel, or taste something by her sheer descriptive, poetic genius. No, it can never be a replacement for the RL thing, but it's possible to have it be a beautiful and moving substitute. This is a good answer. A lot depends on your own level of immersion and suspension of disbelief. Just like flying, or diving or many other of SL's activities, it doesn't compare to the real thing, but it can still be a worthwhile substitute, or addition to them.
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10-05-2009 16:14
From: Smith Peel How do you pick just one line? (Well maybe the only line I can manage to PG-up???) Well, in my experience, there frequently IS just "one line" that does it. Or one move. Or one particular look . . . 
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Jig Chippewa
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10-05-2009 16:14
I think sex comes and goes in your life. Sometimes its really important to you and at other times its hardly a flutter in your heart and other things take precedence.
SL sex is relatively easy sex - it doesnt need much physical exertion and it doesnt need much mental commitment. It's safe. Clean. Precise. And has no "was it good for you?" attachments the next day. It's also fine if you forget who tupped you. I often do.
I mean its just one more zonky space-cadet name on your friends list teh next morning and maybe a pic of the graspy avs on the floor sweating out a big O.
I'm not saying it doesnt mean something when its a friend with benefits (which I much prefer) but most of the time it's a stranger with lust in his eyes and a girl who just wants some sleep.
Sex isnt just an aphrodisiac, it's also a sleep-aid.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-05-2009 16:21
From: Jig Chippewa SL sex is relatively easy sex - it doesnt need much physical exertion and it doesnt need much mental commitment. It's safe. Clean. Precise. And has no "was it good for you?" attachments the next day. It's also fine if you forget who tupped you. I often do. See, this is where you lose me. "Easy sex" does absolutely NOTHING for me. And, of course, the problem is that if there IS the necessary emotional component, then it all becomes rather complicated, doesn't it? It's no longer merely about sex . . . or obtaining a quick and easy soporific. The entire point of this thread, as I understand, isn't really about the "sex" at all. It's about all the attendant baggage that, for most of us (I would hazard a guess), makes the sex worthwhile in the first place. Kissing off a one-night stand is relatively easy. Dealing with a relationship in which sex is merely one (important) component is something else entirely.
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10-05-2009 16:22
From: Brenda Connolly This is a good answer. A lot depends on your own level of immersion and suspension of disbelief. Just like flying, or diving or many other of SL's activities, it doesn't compare to the real thing, but it can still be a worthwhile substitute, or addition to them. This might possibly be a guy thing, but I don't require immersion or suspension of disbelief to get off. If I wasn't smacking it to SL I'd be smacking it to porn and if I didn't have porn I'd be making it in my head anyway. This goes on to some extent unless I am co-habitating with a girl who keeps me in a constant state of exhaustion  ))))
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10-05-2009 16:24
From: Scylla Rhiadra Well, in my experience, there frequently IS just "one line" that does it. Or one move. Or one particular look . . .  OK... THAT line... I couldn't possibly PG up 
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10-05-2009 16:27
From: Smith Peel If I wasn't smacking it to SL . . .
I'd be smacking it to porn . . . UGH!! And DOUBLE UGH!!!! Smify, we need to buy you a thesaurus, or a glossographia erotica, or something . . . 
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10-05-2009 16:27
From: Smith Peel OK... THAT line... I couldn't possibly PG up  So, Millie would object? 
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10-05-2009 16:30
From: Scylla Rhiadra UGH!! And DOUBLE UGH!!!! Smify, we need to buy you a thesaurus, or a glossographia erotica, or something . . .  Choking the chicken? 
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10-05-2009 16:31
From: Scylla Rhiadra So, Millie would object?  It's kinda a moot point since I could never utter those words to someone I wasn't on top of, physically or virtually  ))))
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10-05-2009 16:35
From: Scylla Rhiadra It's complicated . . .
Well, you are a woman. 
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10-05-2009 16:42
From: Chris Norse Well, you are a woman.  They do have more buttons.
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10-05-2009 17:34
From: Smith Peel Choking the chicken?  Oh yes, MUCH MUCH better . . .
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