Second Life without sex?
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Mickey Vandeverre
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10-05-2009 21:12
From: Smith Peel OMFG... I have to go throw up from laughing. I'm not clear on the instructions. What do we do with the RL stranger? emotionally involved or detached? Dang....that's going to keep me an extra hour tonight....at least....if we are supposed to get emotionally involved with the stranger.....then two extra hours.
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Dana Hickman
Leather & Lace™
Join date: 10 Oct 2006
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10-05-2009 21:23
From: Scylla Rhiadra In the final analysis, I think, it is the emotional component of this that is both the most powerful stimulant and, paradoxically, the greatest peril. It very much is. It's both the greatest motivator for those who want/can have that in their SL, and the biggest bane to those don't/can't. From: Dagmar Heideman If you're wondering why the hell the whole thing is taking so long, you're doing it wrong.  Lmao - That's funny but there's an element of truth in that too. From: Scylla Rhiadra Ok, but cut sex completely out of the equation now. At what point in a relationship does the emotional entanglement become inhibiting? At what point does sex become the ONLY "next step"? Is it not possible to sustain an emotionally satisfying PLATONIC relationship? There's articles all over the web by assorted notable people that suggest a truly platonic relationship, as in way more than just friendship, is not even possible due to human nature. There's going to eventually be a time when the next step calls so loudly that it'll fall apart. Although modern definition says it's romantically intimate, but without sex, I define it as torture.. and a good recipe for a massive breakdown for her, and giant blue balls for him. I'd also say that the point where emotional entanglements become inhibiting is the point when what you feel for that person is elevated above what you feel for other really good friends. Everyone's different, but IMO it's when the person gains substantial favorable status, and you start to alter your thinking and routine FOR that person that seems to be the starting place.
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Dana Hickman
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10-05-2009 21:38
From: Scylla Rhiadra I think you are right. Which is exactly why I am "not looking." And resisting such temptations as may come my way. Happy 2000th post btw Need to find the one that you can feel comfortable in telling, as it happens, that things are getting too close to the danger zone for you. Should also be one who'll understand that, accept it, and isn't so emo that he'll get all zomg clingy mental on you.
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Scylla Rhiadra
Gentle is Human
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10-05-2009 22:14
From: Dana Hickman Happy 2000th post btw Need to find the one that you can feel comfortable in telling, as it happens, that things are getting too close to the danger zone for you. Should also be one who'll understand that, accept it, and isn't so emo that he'll get all zomg clingy mental on you. OMG, I've hit 2000? Who'd have thunk it? Maybe I DO need to "get a life"! Thanks! I have some male friends, a couple, to whom I feel very close, but who don't yet seem to be in the danger zone, as you put it, for me. One of them is already attached to another very close friend anyway. The other would probably take it further, but I think understands, and is in any case very sensible and sensitive. The status quo, for me right now, is one with which I am generally pretty happy. 
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-05-2009 22:19
From: Dana Hickman There's articles all over the web by assorted notable people that suggest a truly platonic relationship, as in way more than just friendship, is not even possible due to human nature. There's going to eventually be a time when the next step calls so loudly that it'll fall apart. Although modern definition says it's romantically intimate, but without sex, I define it as torture.. and a good recipe for a massive breakdown for her, and giant blue balls for him. This is a bit depressing, but probably fairly accurate. In other words, a really stable platonic relationship may be impossible. I suppose that shouldn't be surprising: no relationship is ever entirely stable, I suppose. From: Dana Hickman I'd also say that the point where emotional entanglements become inhibiting is the point when what you feel for that person is elevated above what you feel for other really good friends. Everyone's different, but IMO it's when the person gains substantial favorable status, and you start to alter your thinking and routine FOR that person that seems to be the starting place. That's not a bad benchmark. I use one that is pretty similar: when I start feeling a bit jealous of time NOT spent with me, or feeling unduly "hurt" by little things that happen. The problem is that one learns that it is time to retreat at the exact point where it has become emotionally MORE difficult to pull back. *sigh* Such is life, I guess. 
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Hikaru Yamamoto
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10-05-2009 23:07
usually those who don't get it on in SL at all already have a real life lover that satisfies them.
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Jig Chippewa
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10-05-2009 23:54
Are Smith and Scylla having sex?
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Dana Hickman
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10-06-2009 00:46
From: Scylla Rhiadra The problem is that one learns that it is time to retreat at the exact point where it has become emotionally MORE difficult to pull back. Yeah, that happens  I seem to be getting better at not only seeing the signs leading up to that point (so nipping it if I have to isn't so bad for both), but also in choosing more compatable people; so if it ever does get that far, it's not so much of an imminent, "for sure going to happen" thing that I would tend to stress about. From: Hikaru Yamamoto usually those who don't get it on in SL at all already have a real life lover that satisfies them. Generally speaking, that's probably very true. I guess I'm unusual in that sense because I do have a very satisfying RL with all the RL love, intimacy, sex, etc.., but still love to "get it on" in SL. Then again, I may not be that unusual in that both RL and SL each have their own dedicated things when it comes to all this, and they really don't overlap at all. I save my romance, love, commitments, etc.. for my RL where it belongs, and in SL I let my bad girl out to explore all the fantasies, kinks, and embarassing things I wouldn't dream of letting out in RL. I guess that's a functional "win/win" situation.. which is what I wanted, but I'm sure that doesn't qualify me for the typical female stereotype. If anything, it's *other* people that have issue with me being relatively unromantic and slutty in world, because I don't fit that typical "thrives on love/romance" mold.. but that really is their problem to sort out, not mine. I know for a fact it gives guys major fits trying to figure me out lmao, because they can't use their "proper ways to romantically seduce a woman" book. Only the original, creative, and non-tradishional ones seem to get past that and that's just fine by me 
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Pserendipity Daniels
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10-06-2009 03:04
From: Scylla Rhiadra The many faces of Pep . . . (Why do I have the sense that there is a lot of VERY interesting history floating just under the surface here? What a shame I can't take one of you out in SL, get you drunk, and wheedle the whole sordid story out of you . . .  ) Move along, nothing to see here. Pep (I have known - not biblically - and have amused and annoyed Lessie in another identity some time ago, ultimately to the disintegration of our friendship and cessation of her participation in the forums; she knows only too well that I am a big cuddly bear, but one that it is disastrous to provoke.)
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-06-2009 05:34
From: Jig Chippewa Are Smith and Scylla having sex? You'll have to ask Smith. I wouldn't know. /me returns to filing her nails . . .
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-06-2009 05:36
From: Pserendipity Daniels Move along, nothing to see here.
Pep (I have known - not biblically - and have amused and annoyed Lessie in another identity some time ago, ultimately to the disintegration of our friendship and cessation of her participation in the forums; she knows only too well that I am a big cuddly bear, but one that it is disastrous to provoke.) Hmmm, thought so. I think I like Lessie. And you (eventually) were quite sweet to her. I think you are good for each other. You have my approval. (Unless, of course, you are still carrying a torch for Laurin.  )
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Lessie Lexington
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10-06-2009 05:37
From: Pserendipity Daniels Move along, nothing to see here.
Pep (I have known - not biblically - and have amused and annoyed Lessie in another identity some time ago, ultimately to the disintegration of our friendship and cessation of her participation in the forums; she knows only too well that I am a big cuddly bear, but one that it is disastrous to provoke.) True.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-06-2009 05:39
From: Dana Hickman I know for a fact it gives guys major fits trying to figure me out lmao, because they can't use their "proper ways to romantically seduce a woman" book. I'd like to get my hands on that book, if only so that I could scribble some corrective marginalia in it for future users.
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Lessie Lexington
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10-06-2009 05:49
From: Scylla Rhiadra Hmmm, thought so. I think I like Lessie. And you (eventually) were quite sweet to her. I think you are good for each other. You have my approval. (Unless, of course, you are still carrying a torch for Laurin.  ) I think I like you too, Scylla. Although I may need to start a thread about how to avoid getting matched up with people. 
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Smith Peel
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10-06-2009 05:58
From: Dana Hickman ...isn't so emo that he'll get all zomg clingy mental on you. That rules me out  LOLz
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-06-2009 06:00
From: Lessie Lexington I think I like you too, Scylla. From: Lessie Lexington Although I may need to start a thread about how to avoid getting matched up with people.  Oh, I shouldn't bother if I were you. We have all the angles worked out now. Really, there is no escape. And as you can see, even the perpetrators are not immune. Apparently, for instance, I am having sex with Smith . . . 
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Smith Peel
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10-06-2009 06:01
From: Jig Chippewa Are Smith and Scylla having sex? No but I suspect the guy who can get her to loosen up and let go will probably see stars for like a month 
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Smith Peel
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10-06-2009 06:01
From: Scylla Rhiadra You'll have to ask Smith. I wouldn't know.
/me returns to filing her nails . . . Oh, you would know. So would the neighbors  ))))
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-06-2009 06:03
From: Smith Peel Oh, you would know. So would the neighbors  )))) LOL Pride goeth before the fall, Smify . . . 
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Eli Schlegal
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10-06-2009 06:04
From: Smith Peel No but I suspect the guy who can get her to loosen up and let go will probably see stars for like a month  This. 
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-06-2009 06:05
From: Eli Schlegal This.  Yeeeeeesh . . . ! 
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Smith Peel
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10-06-2009 06:10
From: Scylla Rhiadra LOL Pride goeth before the fall, Smify . . .  Not pride... Knowledge + Will to Please  ))))
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Laurin Sorbet
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10-06-2009 06:17
From: Scylla Rhiadra And as you can see, even the perpetrators are not immune. Apparently, for instance, I am having sex with Smith . . .  That's nothing. Just wait until down the road when dozens of adult children start coming out of the woodwork 
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Smith Peel
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10-06-2009 06:24
From: Laurin Sorbet That's nothing. Just wait until down the road when dozens of adult children start coming out of the woodwork  Wow, I can't wait for that. When I die, they will all be fighting for their share of my giant penis hotel.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-06-2009 06:27
From: Smith Peel Wow, I can't wait for that. When I die, they will all be fighting for their share of my giant penis hotel. By then, deflation will have significantly reduced its worth, I should think . . . 
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