Second Life without sex?
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-05-2009 17:41
From: Chris Norse Well, you are a woman.  From: Smith Peel They do have more buttons. How did I wander into the locker room again? All of this is distracting us from the ASTONISHING revelation that I made at post #214: From: Scylla Rhiadra The entire point of this thread, as I understand, isn't really about the "sex" at all. It's about all the attendant baggage that, for most of us (I would hazard a guess), makes the sex worthwhile in the first place. This thread is NOT really about sex!!!! It's about the emotional entanglements that are ASSOCIATED with sex. Discuss. (Yes, I know, emotions are harder to talk about boys. But give it a shot . . .  ) ETA: And try to do so without using the words "slap" or "choke," kk?
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10-05-2009 18:03
From: Scylla Rhiadra How did I wander into the locker room again? All of this is distracting us from the ASTONISHING revelation that I made at post #214: This thread is NOT really about sex!!!! It's about the emotional entanglements that are ASSOCIATED with sex. Discuss. (Yes, I know, emotions are harder to talk about boys. But give it a shot . . .  ) ETA: And try to do so without using the words "slap" or "choke," kk? Oh, alright. Sigh. You know how much we love to talk about this stuff  As I have stated before, my preference is to do the sweet virtual lovemaking (How's that???) with a girl I am emotionally attached with... I have been seeing a girl for almost a month now and I am disgustingly devoted to her... and she rocks my world in all kindsa ways... we chat, we voice, we hang out with friends, we go dancing, we stay home, she makes me say "Oh God, Yeah!!!" and she cuddles me afterward (if I don't get hella honesty points for revealing that in front of my male peers then I give up  ) If we are still together in like 3 months I go visit her and see if it translates 
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Chris Norse
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10-05-2009 18:07
From: Scylla Rhiadra How did I wander into the locker room again? All of this is distracting us from the ASTONISHING revelation that I made at post #214: This thread is NOT really about sex!!!! It's about the emotional entanglements that are ASSOCIATED with sex. Discuss. (Yes, I know, emotions are harder to talk about boys. But give it a shot . . .  ) ETA: And try to do so without using the words "slap" or "choke," kk? My post acknowledging that you are a woman and thus complicated was directly related to emotions and stuff. For most men, the emotion is "Yes I would" or "No, I wouldn't". Of course it is always better when you know the person and have some connection.
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Smith Peel
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10-05-2009 18:08
From: Scylla Rhiadra Oh yes, MUCH MUCH better . . . BTW I was eating turkey salad when I read that and I almost, ironically, choked on it.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-05-2009 18:08
From: Smith Peel Oh, alright. Sigh. You know how much we love to talk about this stuff  As I have stated before, my preference is to do the sweet virtual lovemaking (How's that???) with a girl I am emotionally attached with... I have been seeing a girl for almost a month now and I am disgustingly devoted to her... and she rocks my world in all kindsa ways... we chat, we voice, we hang out with friends, we go dancing, we stay home, she makes me say "Oh God, Yeah!!!" and she cuddles me afterward (if I don't get hella honesty points for revealing that in front of my male peers then I give up  ) If we are still together in like 3 months I go visit her and see if it translates  YAY!!!! See, that wasn't so difficult, was it? (And I promise to tell the other boys not to make fun of you for saying it.) NOW . . . Address the OP's implicit question in the light of this: How is it possible to have a satisfying emotional life in SL without having sex? OR without getting entangled emotionally (and probably sexually) to the point that that relationship becomes a negative, rather than a positive? I await your insights with bated breath . . . 
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10-05-2009 18:09
From: Chris Norse My post acknowledging that you are a woman and thus complicated was directly related to emotions and stuff. For most men, the emotion is "Yes I would" or "No, I wouldn't". Of course it is always better when you know the person and have some connection. YAY again!!! Ok, this is good. Now, for the next step, do you boys want to hug? 
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10-05-2009 18:10
From: Smith Peel BTW I was eating turkey salad when I read that and I almost, ironically, choked on it. /me slaps you (yes, that WORD!) virtually on the back . . . 
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10-05-2009 18:12
From: Scylla Rhiadra YAY again!!! Ok, this is good. Now, for the next step, do you boys want to hug?  That depends on if your body parts are cold or prickly. Or even worse, cold and prickly. Of course, don't get upset when we have to go to the bathroom when you want to hug.
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Nika Talaj
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10-05-2009 18:16
From: Scylla Rhiadra We need a thread on this: "Try Out Your Best Cybering Line Here!" Long ago but not so far away *glances at the thread* I floated the notion of an erotic writing contest at the Hangout, which was met with enthusiasm, but never quite happened. Anyone who feels inspired, let me know and I'll dig up my notes for you on how people thought it should be done ... .
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Chris Norse
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10-05-2009 18:18
From: Nika Talaj Long ago but not so far away *glances at the thread* I floated the notion of an erotic writing contest at the Hangout, which was met with enthusiasm, but never quite happened. Anyone who feels inspired, let me know and I'll dig up my notes for you on how people thought it should be done ... . My best erotic writing is done with a partner to respond to and with.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-05-2009 18:20
From: Nika Talaj Long ago but not so far away *glances at the thread* I floated the notion of an erotic writing contest at the Hangout, which was met with enthusiasm, but never quite happened. Anyone who feels inspired, let me know and I'll dig up my notes for you on how people thought it should be done ... . Neat idea! Actually, it occurred to me a long time ago that you could probably make real money in SL by producing a scripted "Cybersex HUD" for verbally-challenged males. With REALLY good, well-written, erotic dialogue, that could, with a click of the mouse, be inserted into IM or chat. You know, a sort of virtual Cyrano de Bergerac for guys whose lines are limited to things like "I slap against you hard . . ." 
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10-05-2009 18:22
From: Scylla Rhiadra How is it possible to have a satisfying emotional life in SL without having sex? Owww, my brain!!!! From: Scylla Rhiadra OR without getting entangled emotionally (and probably sexually) to the point that that relationship because a negative, rather than a positive? I am all about entanglements. I guess this question is for the only in SL crowd mostly? I guess I would just say that as long as both parties are honest about their intentions then everything should be groovy for the most part. Other than that, you can always just have casual sex and don't ask any personal questions or friend each other. (Pretty hard to get entangled emotionally when you can't remember their name the next day...)
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-05-2009 18:23
From: Chris Norse My best erotic writing is done with a partner to respond to and with. Interesting. MY best erotic writing is done with a can of coke, a thesaurus, and enough time to really think about what I am saying. NOT while I'm typing frantically as fast as I can, scouring my brain at light speeds looking for a new way to say the same thing again, and wondering why the hell the whole thing is taking so long . . . 
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Nika Talaj
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10-05-2009 18:23
From: Chris Norse My best erotic writing is done with a partner to respond to and with. /me points out that logging is on by default in some clients nowadays. Of course, getting any partner to agree to share would require FAR more creativity than any writings you wished to submit. 
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Pussycat Catnap
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10-05-2009 18:23
From: Lessie Lexington I've been in SL for over a year and have done a lot of different things, but one constant is that it is difficult to not end up emotionally involved with somebody.
"Emotionally" ... yeah I do mean sex but not only.
I've met people who don't get involved and don't have pixel sex. I used to think it was strange, but lately I've been wanting to be that way too.
This is going to sound really stupid, but I don't care: I want to know how do you do it? What do you do? I have pixel sex but I don't get involved. Pixel sex is mostly about laughs anyway... I think you might enjoy your pixel sex more if you didn't mix it up with how you feel about bio-sex.
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Chris Norse
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10-05-2009 18:26
From: Nika Talaj /me points out that logging is on by default in some clients nowadays. Of course, getting any partner to agree to share would require FAR more creativity than any writings you wished to submit.  My partner would never agree to that, nor would I ask her. Behind closed doors stays behind closed doors.
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10-05-2009 18:27
From: Scylla Rhiadra YAY again!!! Ok, this is good. Now, for the next step, do you boys want to hug?  Now you're pushing it, Scylla!!! (Nothing personal, Chris, buddy!!)
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Nika Talaj
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10-05-2009 18:29
From: Scylla Rhiadra Actually, it occurred to me a long time ago that you could probably make real money in SL by producing a scripted "Cybersex HUD" for verbally-challenged males. With REALLY good, well-written, erotic dialogue, that could, with a click of the mouse, be inserted into IM or chat. There WAS this set of notecards on SLX ... but I'm not venturing into the morass LL has made of that site to look for them! Somewhere I'm sure there is a group of alternate text files for people's talking genitalia; I know there's at least two popular brands that allow you to supply your own. Perhaps our own Pep contributed an erudite (and, of course, grammatically flawless) version at some point? I remember him making reference to erotic stories on some website ...
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-05-2009 18:33
From: Smith Peel Owww, my brain!!!! There, there. Poor baby! Keep it up, though, you are doing quite well. From: Smith Peel I am all about entanglements. I guess this question is for the only in SL crowd mostly? I guess I would just say that as long as both parties are honest about their intentions then everything should be groovy for the most part. Ok, good, good . . . expand on this, please. From: Smith Peel Other than that, you can always just have casual sex and don't ask any personal questions or friend each other. (Pretty hard to get entangled emotionally when you can't remember their name the next day...) This only works for some people, though. And I suspect that many people who THINK that it will work for them discover to their dismay, too late, that it doesn't. In the final analysis, I think, it is the emotional component of this that is both the most powerful stimulant and, paradoxically, the greatest peril.
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10-05-2009 18:33
From: Nika Talaj /me points out that logging is on by default in some clients nowadays. Of course, getting any partner to agree to share would require FAR more creativity than any writings you wished to submit.  My girl is so good that I keep her chat logs to smack off to when she's not online  But I think I would rather commit hari kari than share them with anyone!!
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Smith Peel
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10-05-2009 18:36
From: Scylla Rhiadra Neat idea! Actually, it occurred to me a long time ago that you could probably make real money in SL by producing a scripted "Cybersex HUD" for verbally-challenged males. With REALLY good, well-written, erotic dialogue, that could, with a click of the mouse, be inserted into IM or chat. You know, a sort of virtual Cyrano de Bergerac for guys whose lines are limited to things like "I slap against you hard . . ."  You do realize that you could circumvent the need for this HUD by just doing it with other girls directly 
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-05-2009 18:43
From: Smith Peel You do realize that you could circumvent the need for this HUD by just doing it with other girls directly  Who, ME? Nah. And if I DID try it with another woman, I'd probably discover later that she was a guy, and the whole point of the experiment would be lost anyway. You are sort of missing part of the point, though. Who knows better what kind of language is likely to turn on a woman, than a woman? For example, the word "slap" would be excised in all but a very few and highly particular contexts . . .
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10-05-2009 18:46
From: Scylla Rhiadra Ok, good, good . . . expand on this, please. I am all about expanding... Sorry LOLz... OK I mean if two people are just gonna be slapping pixels and they never intend to take it RL then as long as both are OK with that, it could probably work out. It's when there are RL spouses involved and things like that when things get messy. Or when people aren't honest. Or when one person has one idea about things are gonna go and the other has a completely different idea. From: Scylla Rhiadra This only works for some people, though. And I suspect that many people who THINK that it will work for them discover to their dismay, too late, that it doesn't. Sure not everybody is gonna enjoy boinking a stranger. But I prefer that over a close friend... cause I would probably get attached and it would get messy and possibly ruin a friendship. From: Scylla Rhiadra In the final analysis, I think, it is the emotional component of this that is both the most powerful stimulant and, paradoxically, the greatest peril. Well being extremely stubborn and refusing to become jaded about love keeps me from becoming a Buddhist monk (that, and the horrible urges to touch myself).
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-05-2009 18:48
From: Nika Talaj There WAS this set of notecards on SLX ... but I'm not venturing into the morass LL has made of that site to look for them! It's almost worth looking them up, if only for a laugh. I wonder how good they are? Are they full of the quaint pseudo-poetic euphemism that one finds in those novels people read on the subways, with the lurid bumpy covers? You know, "Taking the flower of his manhood in hand . . . "? From: Nika Talaj Somewhere I'm sure there is a group of alternate text files for people's talking genitalia; I know there's at least two popular brands that allow you to supply your own. Perhaps our own Pep contributed an erudite (and, of course, grammatically flawless) version at some point? I remember him making reference to erotic stories on some website ... I don't think talking genitalia really cut it in this context. There has to be at least the illusion of the personal touch. And I'm not going anywhere NEAR your Pep reference . . . 
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10-05-2009 18:50
From: Scylla Rhiadra You are sort of missing part of the point, though. Who knows better what kind of language is likely to turn on a woman, than a woman? And I would posit that a lot fewer babies would get made if we weren't doing something right  From: Scylla Rhiadra For example, the word "slap" would be excised in all but a very few and highly particular contexts . . . Smith Peel slaps yer ass 
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