Lindens can we stop this nonsense soon please....

LOL That's absolutely right, there is no magic about the word. Planets and plutoids do not have feelings and are not concerned about resolution 5A of the 26th General Assembly. You mentioned earlier:This is not entirely correct, the only ones that needed to be there for the vote were the Astronomers who's work directly relates to planetary studies. Of those there, the Pluto killer was resolution 5A concerning "cleared the neighbourhood" and that vote was near unanimous.

The age verification thing doesn't seem to work consistently nor does it prevent someone from flying up 50 meters over my land. It does seem to stop my unverified account from being able to use a landmark to teleport into the parcel, but it did not stop my unverified account from using a flight assistant to fly up to the platform I had set up at a few thousand meters.

My point isn't that age-verification or the parcel settings to prevent access because of an accounts lack of verification doesn't it work. My point is that the new rules concerning adult content on the non-pornslumland mainland means Linden Lab has told me I MUST use these settings on my land to prevent being AR'd.

I've never set up banlines on my property in such a general sense because I dont like banlines anymore then anyone else. But now I'm being told that I MUST set my land parcel this way because of certain content on the parcel. I've always had certain adult content on my land and never bothered with the banlines because I had a very effective sercurity orb set with its timer at maximum delay set up on my skybox/house. But after these new rules go into effect I can get AR'd for the same content that is on a property not labeled "adult" .... right?

So to save myself from the witch-hunting prudes, I've marked my parcel as Linden Lab would have me mark it. That's what I'm supposed to do..... right? I'm supposed to create more ugly banlines.

Ahem .... The ban list is finite in allowed avatar storage and on many mainland rented parcels .... there is little that can be done by the average, non-officer level renter. I should know ... I had one such place at one time.

Ban lines only go up so far and do NOT 'eject' people, they bar access and gently bounce you back: That said, a generic ban using SL's built in systems is still a bad idea.

LSO (Land Security Orb) systems fill the place of traditional tools where these powers cannot be given out. If set and used correctly, they are not a problem.

Maelstrom, the LSO you ran into must not have been set properly .... Most of these have a sensor limit of 96 meters from their placement position and are easily avoided once you know they are there. Yes, they're annoying if not set properly ....

If you truly believe being polite and asking someone to leave works 100% of the time, you are free to use that on your own plot of land: Those who use LSO systems however ... know better. if you do not have access to the ban/eject controls, an LSO is the only other way to remove those who refuse to respond to polite requests to leave.

I don't use them very often myself .... They are used only when I have no access to the access lists or when I need to section off a part of my current house.

Because I started spending more time doing that than I did actually building. After a while, it just became easier for me to section off a small bit for the workshop and restrict access to group only.

Don't get me wrong, I love talking to my customers. I don't mind them watching me build either. I just want them to do it at a distance... so they aren't between my camera and what I happen to be doing at the time.

And besides, I use ban lines, rather than a security orb. I just wish we had an option to make the ban lines visible at a distance!

It takes less than 15 seconds to dart across small to mid size parcels ... provided you do not stop to read the warning.

Ugh... make them MORE visible? To other people?

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I do find it annoying that I receive uninvited visitors in my home. Last few days it has been mostly newbies. I have a security orb and follow the minimal recommended settings. However, I do allow someone 30 seconds to leave. I have no problem with someone flying about my home. It is not any different then a plane flying over my home irl. My problem is people just walking inside my home uninvited.

When I see someone doing this, I greet them and ask them if they want an "official" tour which I happily provide. So those that happen to fly over my land, I apologize that my security orb disrupts your flying. But until LL can fix that, it is my home and I have a right to manage access to my home. If someone flew over it all the time, a simple im to me and I would consider adding you to the white list.

The above applies to my private estate parcel. Now mainland, I admit I used to put up ban lines there. But after reading some the postings regarding it, I decided to take them down. The sim is relatively quiet and its my vacation getaway. If I was there more I probably put an orb there too.

Yeah, the warning or the goddamn advertisement that the goddamn things put out every goddamn time you come near them. I swear I'll never own anything from a certain Psychopathic Defense outfit, just because of that.

It's over two years and that "near unanimous" resolution is still controversial.

And if Pluto isn't a planet, then neither is the Earth.

People who like flying like to see them from a distance, there was a suggestion to make ban lines appear on the mini map so people could plot a course but I'm not sure how simple that would be to intergrate or how helpful it would be,

Remove the ability to cam into my bedroom and I'll pull my security orb.

Set it to 60 seconds and see if you have a problem. I find that 60 seconds works just fine, without ejecting unsuspecting innocent bypassers.

Also, folks: don't set your scanners to scan every second. Every 10 or 20 seconds works fine.

The exception for this is for people suffering from vendettas or attack groups, who unfortunately may have to detect and react more quickly.

I had a job setting up security for anyone who wanted it in a group of sims. Once the systems were set up this way, the only person who had a problem was a member of some group who had very active and aggressive enemies in some other group, so we strengthened it for him. So, my experience covered about 40 residences, and 60 seconds to leave worked just fine for all but one.

I hate ban lines, and i dislike having to run a security orb. I usually have mine off. When I start to get problems, I turn it on for a couple weeks, and the problems go away.

Security sucks, but the need for it sucks worse. Don't just hate the cure, hate the disease. (I realize this doesn't quite apply to the OP's flying situation.)

Your orb does not protect you from people camming into your bedroom. Your use of an orb is like someone setting out mousetraps because they have termites. It affects those having nothing to do with your problem, while having no effect on the cause of your problem.

However, if you want to keep them from listening distance, an orb does work. It also works if you don't like to rez and find Goldilocks in your bed.

??? Earth meets the criteria for planet regardless which of the candidate definitions you use. Any definition that excludes Earth would be rather difficult to promulgate.

Pluto is a historical planet; there's no disputing that.

If it's technically a planet, then we have hundreds or thousands of planets.

This is a semantic argument about what we mean when we say "planet", which makes for a rather uninteresting discussion.

Your security orb doesn't prevent people camming into your bedroom, and restricting the camera wouldn't keep people from physically entering it, so you might as well say "Reinstate Voted 5 and I'll pull my security orb", or "Give me a pony and I'll pull my security orb". There's no relationship between the two actions.

The moon is a planet... it orbits the sun (yes, it does, the moon's orbit is concave to the sun at every point) therefore the Earth hasn't "cleared its neighborhood". The earth-moon system has, yes, but there's no allowances for binary systems in the definition.

The only reason the Moon is defined as a satellite instead of one element of a binary system is historical reasons. The only reason Jupiter is defined as a planet instead of a brown dwarf is historical reasons. The whole definition of a planet is about historical reasons. It's not about astronomy, it's about etymology. They need to ask a linguist, not a planetologist.

and how do you see a road from 500 or a 100 metres up lol.... you forget vehicles include ships and aircraft...

give us some airlanes and sea lanes which conect regions ...great....


and I dont know if you noticed but here your lawn aint going to sustain a lot of damage even if someone plods over it riding the back of a brontosaurus.


Oh and a big hello who to those regulars who insist security is going to stop prying cams... WRONG !!!!

Ask lindens to give you impermeable walls guys if you dont want others watching you having rumpy pumpy

SVC-205 FTW

stop that dirty internet talk you naughty man.....

My neighbor cracks me up. He has a 512 with ban lines and nothing on the ground... then he has a sky box at about 53 meters above ground... so the ban lines stop almost exactly at the bottom edge of his sky box and do absolutely nothing to stop anyone from entering the sky box. At first I thought maybe it was greifing, but the land is not for sale. I've come to the conclusion that he just doesn't know how ban lines work and because owners can't see ban lines he has no idea he is creating and eye sore and he is not protecting his sky box. I really really wish LL would force people that use ban lines to have to look at them.

I said an option, you know, a check box thingy that says, "I'd like ban lines to be more visible for me." Not in the land settings, but in the preferences, just like all other toggles.

I used to love to travel and in the "old days," the ban lines were visible at a far enough distance that I could actually navigate around them. Then people complained they were TOO visible and ruined their views. But instead of giving us a choice in keeping them visible or turning them down, LL just made it impossible to navigate in advance.

Make 'em visible for myself when I'm traveling and then turn 'em down when I'm at home.

virulent as ever eh chris glad to see the circumstances you wail about in other threads dont stop you being unpleasant elsewhere...

Yes! That idea I could get behind. While were at it... how about three settings? Visible, barely visible, and not visible at all. I know... asking for a lot.

Visibility on or off is supposed to be coming to the viewer.