Lindens can we stop this nonsense soon please....

Currently, in SL, potential handoff candidates (child agents) now include all avatars in any directly adjacent regions. Initially they only included avatars within 5 meters of a sim border.

Actual handoff can't happen until you cross, because otherwise you'll lose script state.

oh so if you know the causes one would assume Lindens do...

are they all too difficult to resolve then ??

Does this come in an English version.

Don't meant that as snark ... I'm really interested, but lack fundamental tech-speak.

These are like "we know how to solve the Middle East crisis, just stop everyone from hating each other".

ah I thought technical issues might have a technical solution....

alas I never had any education in computing....

Well, we're dealing with some pretty fancy technology here. These computers are almost as complex as flatworms!

and flatworms have been around MUCH longer than computers...

The following is always true:

1. You can't solve social problems through technological means. (You can't change behavior against people's will through a technology)

2. Sometimes technological problems only have social answers. (Sometimes the only possible answer to "something's broken" is "don't do that, then!"

Everybody has to go hit the same asset servers, creating a bottleneck. Increased traffic means increased lag between different datacenters in different cities. Increased network traffic between regions. Policy changes.

It's good to try to learn as much as you can stand to about network design and systems administration if you want to have an idea what's going on over on the server side of the grid.

Im not talking about ban lines now I mean the issue of crashing at regional boundaries...

I meant more generally, not specific to any one situation.

With the new adult rules in force having anything on mainland which is open with unrestricted access which is connected with sex is a violation. That in itself makes the use of security devices and/or ban lines valid for private residences. In any case, landowners pay for their tier and if they don't want others accessing what they pay for they have every right to do that.

Maybe we need mapped and zoned flight corridors that only allow bans up to X metres, and a utility HUD like a rl stall buzzer that goes beep-beep-beep when the craft dips down and approaches the danger Z coordinate.

That's not what the rules say. They say "advertised".

We don't need vehicles either. Your point?

You -want- vehicles.

You -want- to fly over others land.

Land you don't pay for.

Land they do.

They can keep you out all they like, as long as they give ample warning time.
Personally I always gave 10 seconds minimum. Even walking speed could cross the land in that time..it only hit people who hung around.

If it is just about sl regions.. only one place to blame for that...

You don't need to keep people from flying over your land. You -want- to, because you think you've paid for that right. Linden Labs has said, no, you haven't paid for that right. Even if you set up ban lines and turn off flying, and you don't have enough prims on your land to set up all the sensors it would take to block access with scripted orbs. Linden Labs has come down on the side of saying that unrestricted flying is a valuable thing in SL, something worth limiting the rights of landowners for.

Which is why I quit flying my hot air balloon. Hope that makes you happy.

That logic works on private estates; not so much on the Mainland. Paying for Mainland ownership is buying both more and less. A Mainland parcel is part of a really quite amazing stretch of simulations, and to keep it working together as a coherent continent, some things aren't allowed; extreme terraforming is one example.

Mainland owners who aren't interested in Mainland's unique advantages shouldn't devalue those experiences for others.

For now there are no restrictions on banlines, but until LL cleans up its act on border crossings, it might be good to make whitelist banlines fail to work within say 50m of points where any Linden roadway or water crosses a region border. If they can tighten up the handoffs, then tightening up that radius would make sense.

I don't see any reason why ban lines have to be higher than the highest building on the land. I use the Watchdog Orb which allows me to set a precise square of guarded land and I set it to the top of my house. I don't care if people fly over. No horrible red ban lines either!

One of these days I keep hoping the Lindens will wake up and treat this like Real Life. Airspace is public property. I can fly over your land in the real world anytime I want to above 500 feet, as a general rule. I have proposed public airspace in SL on a number of occasions, but to date LL hasn't paid any attention other than the half-assed process they use of ARing over-agressive security systems. The sad part to that is they don't have the manpower to follow it up.

Hopefully, public airspace will be one more thing other virtual worlds can do right, in the future.

The fundamental difference in this case being, you aren't limited to building on the ground in SL.

Yep, key difference but easily fixed. Restrict building in a given altitude band, say 200-500m. That's plenty of room for vehicles to maneuver around and through the space, and doesn't restrict the ability to have a skybox.

Once again, it mimics real-life, where there are distinct limits on how high you can build anything without waivers.

No thanks, sinistar.

Abandon ban lines, implement privacy zones and portals, and there will be no need to worry about who's flying where because you won't be able to see anything anyway.

There's no point in that as banlines don't extend that far up anyway.

Recreational flight of the sort that is impeded by banlines and security orbs generally takes place at lower altitudes.

weren't access lines set at 60M above ground not too long ago? I can remember flying in the 100M altitude range for an hour or more all throughout mainland sims at one point. When they installed Windlight all went to hell.


I would love to meet the creator of a security orb.. and give them 0 seconds before I drop them. Walk up and without notice unload.. Surprise to you!..

let me guess you sit on your front porch with a stinger Missle just waiting for ze plane ze plane?