Lindens can we stop this nonsense soon please....

Once again flying in a hot air balloon at 250 metres...moving between our two areas of land...

all of a sudden whap 'you are not on access list'

balloon vanishes followed by five minutes of trying to unfreeze myself and stop the falling anims.

COME ON LINDENS lets have this security rubbish stopped now.

If anyone needs to shut anyone out they can use the ban list.

Otherwise lets stop this indiscriminate legitimised griefing which stops people enjoying sl to the full in favour of those who just want to seal off bits of the area to the detriment of all.

In the end thanks to this incrdiscriminate banning I had to relog....

its feeble...

You just have to fly above the ban lines where you can't see anything but air. Of course if you're going to do that, may as well just fly straight up in your own parcel and pretend you went somewhere.

Actually I haven't had the problems you describe all that often. If you fly over a large estate are like Caledon you seldom crash (no ban lines) and it can be more scenic than mainbland. There are a lot of other places like this too.

We were at 250 metres Weston and saw no signs of any bans lines, just a message then as I say 'zap !'

As my gf says 'whats the point of buying vehicles when this sort of thing happens ?'

I continue to believe that the tools are in place to ban nuisances and troublemakers without indicriminate use of security tools, ban lines or access banning.

What is the point of try to beautify sl ( getting rid of ad farms etc.) when swathes of the place can be cut off with bans lines, orbs and god knows what else ?

Security orbs don't have ban lines, but they're supposed to give warning and have a reasonably long wait time for people to be able to move themselves from the area. Sounds like the owner of this particular orb didn't set it long enough.

If you find one that doesn't send a message or doesn't have a reasonable wait time, AR it. In a way that can be considered a form of griefing, given how SL doesn't handle sudden scene changes very well. Yes, I've crashed out dealing with those things too.

Beyond that, people are very vicious in the protection of their supposed privacy. Only reason I have ban lines around the workshop is the fact that I've had people try to sit on my work... which is annoying to say the least.

I can see your argument re the work thing...however would it be too difficult to ask them to leave and ban them if they didnt wthout the need to isolate your bit of sl ??

It would be very nice to have zoning so that certain areas could restrict access and others couldn't.

IMO, orb creators are partly at fault as well. They should make these devices so that there is a minimum of 5 seconds before acting. Or, at the very least, educate their customers that use of their devices without a delay will make them vulnerable to be ARd.
Red ban lines should behave in the same manner, giving a minimum time before ejection.

The problem is that this allowing time business actually presumes we need these gadgets and ban lines....we don't...

/me truly hates these security orbs things. Evil they are. Evil!

To the people that use them: I know - it's your land and you can do what you like there. The grid's a big place though and I'm just flying around. I have no idea who you are, how big your land is or what the best way to get off it is.. That and it's probably laggy. So, please, on behalf of people who like to roam the grid, lighten up a bit, ok?

Had an amusing encounter with a security orb the other day. TPed into a region and immediately was hit with security warning. Flew straight ahead to get off the property in time and a few minutes later received an IM from the owner asking me to leave the property. I promptly replied that in case she had not noticed I was gone a long time before she even started writing the IM. I then received another IM stating she was sorry but she could not understand what I said because she only spoke a little English. I replied with ?habla Espanol? and she replied Portugesa. We proceeded to have a nice chat for a few minutes in my broken Portugese, which is really what passes for my horrible Spanish. It seems as thou she was able to absorb my horrible attempt at conveying the idea to please turn off the orb when she was not around and that no one could steal or hurt her stuff. I TPed over there the next day and the orb was off

i agree some misguided girlie put up lines in the offset middle of the sim i am on and ruins my flying in my triplane. SO ... I bought out all the land around her. See how she likes not being able to go anywhere on her sim besides her puny 4096. Yeah I'll buy your whole sim at my expnse just to spite you. Makes my day.

Ill be so glad when the adult land deal is ready. So I can make a plan to buy what I want rather than this wait and see pile.

Well a nice non laggy way to get avatar height would probably help with these security orbs.

The best thing the Lindens could do is extend banlines to the same height as the build limit. Why should you be allowed to trespass on my land just to feed your flying fetish?

We all luv u 2 Chris

NOT FAR ENOUGH!!!!

Extend them up to infinity.

If the bans stop at the build limit then someone will fly to just above it and trespass - and wreck your enjoyment of WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!!! - the bastards!

Even if they extent the lines to 1,000,000 metres, it won't be enough.
There's been threads on getting way up high.
The person's avatar gets horribly deformed at huge altitudes, but the bastards will do that to their avatars just to be able to trespass on WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!!! - the bastards!

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..... everyone else thinks you're an asshole

Living higher up in the mountains I noticed my banlines from there were really catching people off-guard (up so high), so I dont use them anymore.

When you buy a vehicle in real life, you don't have permission to start driving over peoples lawns, going in their yard, etc...

Keep the vehicle on/above the roadways and you're good to go.

If you were working on a copy when they sat on it you missed a golden opportunity to suddenly set the Z coordinates to 1000. And then delete.



Yes, but airplanes fly over my real life house all the time without disentegrating. At least so far.

For the first time in my SL experience I have put general banlines up on my land in-so far as banning accounts who are not age-verified. It's my understanding that as someone on the mainland who wishes to have or display adult products or images, it is my responsiblity to have such banlines in place.

Expect the banline/security orb issue to get much much worse on the "I don't want to move to the porn slumlands but I still want my bdsm skybox" mainland.

Exactly why we did away with that Civil Aviation nuisance.

i report all security orbs that push me or make me crash

Yes.

This is why geostationary satellites were invented - so that orbiting satellites would not trespass on other countries.

I had someone put a security orb directly at the end of my runway, with no delay. I moved the runway half a kilometer up to avoid inconveniencing him, and he moved the orb. Linden Labs of course did nothing.

We need REAL privacy, not the current vicious (in every sense of the word) cycle of bans and security scripts.

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-205