Lindens can we stop this nonsense soon please....

That would imply that they're on the ground mesh (actually on your land) and not passing high through the airspace over it. Do you sit on your roof with an RPG in first life, just daring Delta to send one over your house?

No, it's not. A basic human right would be one that all cultures more or less agree is a common, necessary feature of the human condition. Not all cultures even have the idea of ownership, and I think we can all agree human rights were violated to their extreme forcing the concept of ownership on cultures that previously didn't have it.

So does that mean they don't distribute it at all, or that it's released as an open source item?

That's still fast...give people a chance to register what's going on, come back to the computer if they weren't looking at it and find the ban line. Perhaps more like two or three minutes just so there's ample opportunity.

Is that such a bad thing if you're a bear?

If you don't like the grid, why insult them on their home territory when it's easier, cheaper and requires less effort to just go away?

Not necessarily. I'd set my land to Mature/Age verified regardless of content mostly because I'm childfree and don't want anything to do with minors, regardless of the activity or nature of the content.

Someone's never looked up... you think pilots care whose "land they're on" with their airplane when they're flying?

That just begs the question why you're not doing private bedroom activities in your first life bedroom instead; though I think SVC-205 would solve that.

Obviously you do not know Chris, or you would have no need to ask this question.

They might if they had to navigate around builds in the RL sky.

Don't be silly. Chris with RPG's.

He uses SAM's

I thought the installation at the hangout was more in line with ICBM's rather that SAMs

Too many prims.

Once the Anna Nicole Smith wall was dismantled, there was no need for the ICBMs.

Once again, Peace was maintained through superior firepower.

Must...not...make distasteful...9/11 joke...

It's not distributed at all - it's a personal item.

That's TOO bad Baloo. I don't have banlines I have an orb. If you are flying then you should be at your computer PAYING ATTENTION!! When I am horseback riding or boating, I am not away from my computer. If you find you need to be away, then RETURN HOME, that is one of the uses of the teleport home button. Or, land in an area that allows you to be away. It is really quite that simple.

Now I don't mind making concessions, but the person that is entering the property (that I PAY good money for) has to have some level of accountability and hopefully consideration of the person's land they are presently using. Next someone will be asking for 5 minutes. My security orb time is not set for YOU or anyone else. I certainly don't want people lingering in my home for up to 5 minutes while I'm changing clothes, sharing an intimate moment with my husband or simply I don't to be bothered at the time.

Now if there is an orb that has different settings for activities such as flying, boating or just some trying to get in my house, then I would consider purchasing it to assist with the user's experience. But what about MY experience?

WHEN IS ENOUGH, ENOUGH??????????

Well if that is the case why should I care about the pilot flying over MY land while I am sitting outside having a drink.

Perspective such as yours makes me want to set my orb to 10 seconds.

Perspectives like his make me wish thinking SL is AT ALL like or should be run at all like RL .... should be banned.

Baloo was referencing RL and it is a valid point, the same point Argent was making. Are you saying that in RL you want to stop traffic, whether commercial or recreational, over your house? Either in RL or in SL I think it is a pretty cool xp, although pretty rare unless you live under a route or by an airport. Used to love seeing the Goodyear Blimp up in the sky when I lived in Houston. I still love seeing a couple of AVs floating along in some outrageous design. It's not like anyone is trying to peek in and catch some pixel flesh. Any kind of traffic should be the last thing any land owner is worried about, it is there and then gone. People using transportation are not lurking or greifing or trashing property. The only time trash may be left behind is because of sim crossings or hitting a banline. In the case of banlines, the pilot and passengers are ejected, but the vehicle continues on it's way.

You put a lot of thought into raising your security timer to 30 seconds. Is there anything that Baloo stated that should cause a change in this?

Why? In both RL and SL, the point of recreational aviation is "recreation", not greifing or trying to destroy anyone else's xp. You really, really should try it sometime. There are plenty of free balloons on the market. Hop in one and see some of the cool builds and landscaping in SL. Perspectives like your, where you want someone banned for even making a point in the forums are rather extreme don't you think?

IMHO, his comment regarding do you think pilots care about the land they are flying on came across to me as inconsiderate and down right arrogant. People have access to every part of my sim except my personal space. Again, if there were orbs out there that allow different settings then I would likely purchase it. I have no problem with an aircraft or balloon drifting across my sim. Personally, I would think that would be really cool. Knowing me, I probably send out a sim notice inviting them over for some cocktails and rest for their next journey.

The problem is the folks on land, entering my home uninvited. Not someone flying over my land. Unfortunately the orb does not distinguish the differences in activities an avie is doing.

Now if anyone knows of one, please im inworld and I will certainly take a look at it.

You completely misunderstood me.

I didn't claim that entertainment was justification for air travel. I claimed that since owning land in SL is entertainment as well, the entertainment value of air travel is more than enough to justify an analogy with Causby.

The point of the Causby analogy is that in BOTH cases, a plane flying across the continent crosses hundreds of individual properties. Enabling individual property owners to enact sanctions against air travel *merely because they consider it to be an invasion of their property* would destroy the value of air travel in both cases. Making an asshat like Chris happy... by letting him enact an infinitely high barrier even in space above his parcel that he is not using... is not a compelling reason to destroy air travel in SL.

IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH NOW?

Exactly.

LOL, it's been awhile since I thought about that episode.