As You Like It - Men Becoming Women

Yes, this is put a little more concretely about your point of view.

But, as for me, no, I don't want a SL relationship to turn into a RL love. I come from a family of all sisters and I have lots of females in my RL. It's simply, for me, a matter, as one person stated "some people prefer to socialize with the opposite sex". So, some people are going mic because of this I'd say rather than any other presumption, except for a few men who say "Hey, I won't go near any ladies without a mic cuz they might be a dude." That's just the way they are and I don't know if they are looking for a RL love or not. They simply told me they're afraid that it's a dude if there's no mic.

Another thing about mic, it's kind of like people on ham radio. Some people enjoy that and hate typing. But again, I don't like people playing this game with others. I think it's wrong and am entitled to my opinion. Nuff said.

have you tried here?:

http://www.tsdating.com/

I think we have a miscommunication about the meaning of "game". For you, it's a head game of some sort, one that I don't have any experience with, other than as an observer. I've known a few people who have gotten deeply romantically involved with someone on SL, only to find out they're the wrong gender. Now that, I can understand as being wrong. But just not wanting to talk to someone because they might be dressed as a woman but IRL be a man? That's just silly. Why would that matter? If you REALLY only prefer the company of the opposite sex, why take a chance on getting hurt in SL? Log off and go to a bar.

For me, when I hear "game", I think Warcraft and LOTR online, and I don't treat SL any differently. SL is a multi-use platform for gaming, socializing, networking, creation, commerce, and teaching. It's not a dating service, and unless you're using it to find a mate, I don't see how gender matters this much.

I enjoy my mic too (no typos with a mic), but people rarely ask me to use it. Usually it's only for meetings about sim management and roleplay, because that can get lengthy and complicated and it's too much trouble and time to type it all.

When I go out shopping dressed as a girl (sans boobs and still in my usual male shape), no man has ever asked me to turn on my mic before speaking to me. Usually they just silently throw themselves on a blue poseball in the store directly in front of me. How wude! At least it gives me an excuse to use my Tyler Durden manic laugh before I walk away.

Just popped in to say what absolute idiots most of you are making of yourselves in this thread. And if you don't think I mean you, I almost certainly do.

Pep (Especially the over-sensitive, over-emotional over-reactions of the paranoid)

You tell 'em, Pep!! The crazy fools.

Oh stop it 431, most of the idiots here think you are my alt anyway.

Pep (You aren't, are you?)

No way!

Pep (You are my alt)

See what I did - I outed you!

Pep (Now they will be really confused)

People may even start to like you now.

Pep (You've got a charming side after all)

No chance! Not after I've messed with their minds again.

Pep (Except most of the posters to this thread don't have minds worth messing with)

I totally agree.

Pep (You've posted in this thread several times)

Not really! Taking my money to go shopping? Making me do work I don't want to do when I'm trying to rest? Nagging me about things constantly? And the funny thing is we still come crawling back for more!

Sorry but SL is about us as individuals. IT is about being able to be what WE want to be. Wha right do you haveto judge how someone feels. Most tgpeople wouldnt want to be open about being tg for fear of being treated how you do, the expectation that they are different.

Why should someone be required to tell you the intimate details of their life upon meeting you? You're right thre is a real person behind every avie. There are some very real peple who know they are in the wrong body and SL gives them a chance to actually be able to feel 100% complete.

I do think that it is important for anyone to tell another person they get that close to the important details and for some peopel that is about their gender. But why the hell do they have to advertise it. IT is like saying because I am a lesbian I should tell my friends.

You say you arent intoloerant. I would say hell yes you are. This is all about accepting people for who they are not what they are. You however have no concept of that

Homophobic trolls need to be accepted for who they are. Show a little tolerance, plz.

I am no homophob.... ummm i AM GAY. I am also not a troll. I am simplysomeone sick of seeing the kind of attitude shown by people here. I have tolerance, at least in the respect to people as group and individuals....


I dont have tolerance for people who sprout the kid of idea that one must reveal all their RL detail upon a first meeting. I am someone who brings a lot of my rL into SL... but the expectation that becuase we meet I have to spill my life to someone

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I'm with you EC. I have a lot of RL baggage and if I have to tell somebody on first meeting them they'll run a mile before also finding out i'm a wonderful person (I really am, inspite of my narccissistic tendancies - I guess thats part of my baggage!). I tell everyone I get close too all about me, as they get to know me better they find out more - that's a big difference, but one worth noting.

There's no set pattern, I am a very open person with no secrets from any of my friends or the people I meet - there's some stuff I wouldnt talk about in a forum, but otherwise i'm about as open as any other liberal tree hugging lesbian - but that doesnt meen I come out with everything the moment I meet somebody - for a start, they need the opportunity to speak too and it could take all night...

I was groaning because it was funny. No offense.

The thread is starting to lose its point. It's attracting gay-bashing and insensitivity and too many people with chips on their shoulder. It's not a discussion anymore; it's one-liners that can be heard in any provincial pub in any small-minded scruffy town. I am not a man, I am not gay, but homophobia is simply crass and unwelcome anywhere.

The comments and strings of attention-seeking anti-female sentiments are also taking this thread in completely the wrong direction. Reading back on this thread after a few days absence, I am dismayed by the comments made about women. The lack any good-nature is obviously being modelled on a new "fashion" of humour where ridicule and snide attitudes by school-boy minds is being touted as "freedom of speech"

well you started it!

Easy, there Avawyn. Gabriele is one of the most genuine, sweetest people I know. She's not in this to hurt people.

Edited to Add: And if she's a man in RL, I couldn't give a darn. If she's a vampire in RL, I might be a little nervous.

No String, I asked a reasonable qustion that had (I think) some humour in its phrasing. I didnt stoop to rudeness or teh insentivity that became the main theme of these comments. There were some offensive comments in several threads recently about women, gays and even some weak attempt at humour (?) about physical and mental abuse of women. It was truly unnecessary considering that people simply DON'T KNOW teh real person's circumstances or what experiences she or he have had.

Starting a thread invites comment - and we assume an adult is answering the question posed. In teh case of several of teh comments made here, I question teh maturity of teh person answering the question.

I understand that Forums can allow people from all stratas and classes of society to mix quite freely amongst ourselves. But let's have some respect for each other. You would probbaly despise me (and judging by your attitude) think I am a snob if you knew me in real, but here (to some extent) we should treat each other as equals,

Argh.

A mistake on my keyboard. I am in an airport. My apologies. Did it warrant that "aargh"?

Well now, if the people I were listening to had the tongue of a Mel Blanc, a Spike Milligan, or even a Tom Hanks, voice would be worth it.