Stay Off My Property!

As a native Californian I know how tricky those men can be..

You forgot pregnant female avs with fetuses that talk to them - in chat! The most unarguable defense of Roe v. Wade I have ever encountered.

I am a guy but I do tend to hang out in West Hollywood or Silverlake.

I don't give them access to my land but I have set the orb to group so my neighbors don't get orbited if they take a happy little yiffy fly around the sim.

Oy feck! I can't believe I'm reading this whole thread! It would seem I'm wayyyyy behind. LOL Meh....

Why this cracks me up, I have no idea, but nevertheless, I lol'ed.

Can we not get into the whole I have rights, no you don't yes Idonoyoudon'tyesIdo...blah, blah, blah crap? It gets old.

Respect others. If they don't want you on their land don't go there, and if you accidentally do, leave ASAP. It doesn't matter why they don't want you there.

The end. Argument over. Now can we move on to something more pleasant?

No, because there are too many people who want to milk their neighbor's cow - for free, of course.

I looked up West Hollywood Men, this was the first thing I saw

I don't want to milk my neighbor's cow. I want to grind it up into hamburger and have a giant BBQ - I'll invite my neighbor, of course.

All I meant was that the argument has been done to death, and it's getting a little old. I wasn't taking a strong position one way or another. The facts are that a landowner has the ability to put up whatever security means they want and it's within the TOS, so it doesn't really matter why they want to do it. If you aren't wanted on someone's property, don't go there. It's as simple as that. We don't really need to argue about it.

you just had to bring Mari's neighbors into this.

Um, you're familiar with us, right? We need to argue about everything.

Now who took that pic of me?

Thats guacamole right? *gets chips*

I think that the majority of people who like me, wander about and explore SL do not have any expectation or concept of a "right" to go anywhere.

My parcels have always been open. I have used eject/ban only twice in over a year.
My parcels have been open because I choose to allow it. I don't consider that anyone has a right to come on them.
I do absolutely have the option to close off my land with ban lines, uglify the neighbourhood and make things difficult for people passing through the neighbourhood.
It is true that LL allows me to do this on land that I pay for. They allow it not because this is the best way or even a good way of doing things. They allow it by default as they haven't the brain/soul/resources to amend access restriction to work in less ham-fisted and less ugly way.
Label what LL allow as a "right" for want of a better term. However, I don't believe that rights come independently of responsibilities.

We have responsibilities towards other residents. It is irresponsible to put up ban lines that affect everyone in order to lock out a small minority of abusers.

Anyone wanting to keep known avatars out can ban those avatars.
Anyone wanting to keep people in general out can use a security orb, or a hive of bees, or a bunch of grannies with brooms. It's true that it takes a little more effort to set up a security orb, but that's where a sense of responsibility to society at large comes in.

Oh. I agree with you completely. Problem is, as someone pointed out earlier, there are always new people coming in who haven't seen the twenty gazillion other previous threads on the subject. They don't know the history, so we are doomed to repeat it. : ( Plus, there are people with personal agendas involved.

I think I'd rather have a neighbor put up ban lines than ugly huge prims with awful landscape textures.

At least this thread got Mickey to come out of Hibernation.
/me waves

And the winner of this thread is Mr. Mickey McLuhan himself. Sir, you have my utmost respect. I've seen a few really good posts but this one rates up on top.

As he mentioned, what's the obession with insisting you should be allowed where you don't belong. Or to pass judgement on someone who's land you wish to use or because they use whatever means they like to keep intruders off.

Clearly, these indiviuals don't or won't comprehend people are entiltled to do as they wish with their property, especially when they're paying dollars for it. You don't owe anyone any explanation whatsoever for keeping unwanted people off your place.

I especially love the last paragraph he posted above. This is custom made for TINKERBELLE who loves questioning why I do what I do with my land. Who called me paranoid for not wanting intruders on my land.

This is for you, Tink, come get some!


He not only fix the op as he said, he also fixed all the self proclaimed "explorers."

Here's a thought..

Don't post to any threads like this.

A while back there were just a small handful but as of late I have been seeing more and more people defend their right to keep unwanted intruders off their land. Good for you, you don't owe anyone anything.

I'm so touched.


/wipes away tear.

/me elbows Ricardo.....Mickey is a She.

I've always thought so......

You know me well.

Yes, usually.

Don't you just love it?

Oops. Sorry about that, Mickey.

Wow, felt very strange using that word. But post was so good I've made an exception just this once.

What's the obsession with insisting that anybody is demanding to be allowed here they don't belong?
It's like some demented securocrat fixation.
There are no hordes of barbarians/triffids that require a fence of shiny red lines to keep them out. The obsession you mention is one of your own imagination. Its not real. There is no body of people with the obsession that you imagine.

From memory, there has been only one (possibly two?) poster(s) in all of there threads who claimed some sort of right to go anywhere. I'd class them as either unreasonable or trolling.

What's the obsession with putting quotes around """""""""""""""""explorers""""""""""""""" in order to implicitly label passerbys as abusive intruders?

What's the obsession with living in a world where every stranger is assumed to be a threat?
Are your lives so sad and empty that you need to manufacture threats?
Have you been brainwashed by the negativity of TV news programs?