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03-21-2008 06:31
From: Teejay Dojoji
hahaha! can you send a photo link?




From: Bradley Bracken
Bizarre? That sounds like fun to me. I'll have to stop by sometime.


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Chris Norse
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03-21-2008 06:36
From: Sling Trebuchet
You've got the cause and effect chain all messed up.

An ad farmer buys land with the intention if griefing the hell out of a sim until a neighbour buys the land at an extortionate price in order to get rid of the grief.
I bought that plot with the intention of building something appropriate and nice there.

A neighbour then created an eyesore. The particular eyesore punched its visual impact up to 7+ metres through walls and windows of neighbouring buildings. I had a polite conversation with him. He decided to keep his eyesore in place.

I gave him a vivid demonstration of what it would be like to have a high wall along his boundary. That high wall would have become the blank wall of a building as I absolutely will not stand for ban lines intruding into my land in the way that they do. Even if not plywood, such a wall would still have been damage to the environment.
Bear in mind that the eventual upshot was that he decided that he required no general access restriction whatsoever.
The outcome was good for the sim and good for him.

The parallel with ad farming doesn't hold water. What I was doing is called activism.



Puhleeeese! Ad-farmer?? In your eyes I'm a terrorist.



You said it not me. He was using a Linden approved and provided tool to secure his land. You didn't like it, so you took action designed to punish him if he didn't bend to your will.

You call it activism, I call it extortion. But if activism helps you sleep better at night, keep using it.
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Sling Trebuchet
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03-21-2008 06:49
From: Chris Norse
You said it not me. He was using a Linden approved and provided tool to secure his land. You didn't like it, so you took action designed to punish him if he didn't bend to your will.

You call it activism, I call it extortion. But if activism helps you sleep better at night, keep using it.


Chris. You're a Loud Arrogant Redneck
You said it, not me. ;)

Smooooooooooooch!
Chris Norse
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03-21-2008 07:20
From: Sling Trebuchet
Chris. You're a Loud Arrogant Redneck
You said it, not me. ;)

Smooooooooooooch!



I knew you still loved me. ;)
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Stephen Wisent
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03-21-2008 07:24
From: Sling Trebuchet
Chris. You're a Loud Arrogant Redneck
You said it, not me. ;)

Smooooooooooooch!

From: Chris Norse
I knew you still loved me. ;)




Is that it..?

Come on... "We were on a break"..."No we weren't"

What happened to you guys!....:)
Pie Psaltery
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03-21-2008 07:38
How much fun are these sorts of threads going to be when checking off "Mature Content" on your property options really starts coming into play?
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03-21-2008 07:43
From: Pie Psaltery
How much fun are these sorts of threads going to be when checking off "Mature Content" on your property options really starts coming into play?

We'll all probably be dead by then anyway, and our children will be searching for the Meaning of Second Life.
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03-21-2008 07:44
From: Brenda Connolly
We'll all probably be dead by then anyway, and our children will be searching for the Meaning of Second Life.


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Phil Deakins
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03-21-2008 08:13
I have a waterfront piece of land (the first land I ever bought). The water is the inland sea in the old north continent - great for taking a boat out. The person who owned the water in front of it built his house and put ban lines round it, making it so that there was only a narrow passage of water along to the left, and the a right turn to get to the open sea. Then he bought part of the narrow pasage, linked it to his main land and it all had ban lines round it. There was no longer a way for me to take a boat out.

I talked with him. He said he needed the land for the prims. I explained that the land doesn't need to be joined to use the prims, and asked him to cut it so that I could get a boat out. He didn't. I mentioned it again some time later. he still didn't do anything. He had a right to leave it as it was, and he wasn't at all concerned about anyone else. If I could have built something, bright and flashing, to annoy the hell out him when he was 'home', I would have done, but his home was too far away, and he had avery tall tree border, so my effort would have been pretty much out of sight in the sky. I wouldn't have used a blank screen. I would have made a huge flashing sign, pointed right at his house.

He sold the place not long ago, and everything is fine now.

There's a guy in the sim where my old shop was. He buys every piece of land that he can in the sim - and he puts ban lines up for them all. Why? He's building a club on an 8k piece, and the other pieces aren't adjacent, so why the ban lines on all of them? Apart from the club plot, there is nothing on the pieces of land. It's either a complete lack of consideration for other people - what's mine is mine, so you stay off it, or it's maybe in the hope that other land owners will get fed up of them and put their land up for sale.

Ban lines are one of the worst things that LL put into SL, and people who use them are either extremely inconsiderate, or unaware that cheap security alternatives exist. The cost of a security device isn't a valid rerason to put ban lines up, because they are so cheap - 175L to my knowledge.
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Colette Meiji
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03-21-2008 13:16
From: Pie Psaltery
How much fun are these sorts of threads going to be when checking off "Mature Content" on your property options really starts coming into play?



Its going to be hilarious

People are going to complain about those who rate their land Mature when they don't feel their land has enough adult content on it to qualify ...

Or better yet tell them what they can have INSIDE their houses ...

Just because they hate banlines
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03-21-2008 13:18
On another unrelated note -- Why is the SL website moving so horribly slow?
Conan Godwin
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03-21-2008 13:26
From: Phil Deakins
The cost of a security device isn't a valid rerason to put ban lines up, because they are so cheap - 175L to my knowledge.


Banlines are free, which to my mind makes security devices cost infinity times more.

Anyone, in any area of life, who would choose Option B over Option A when Option B costs infinity times as much as Option A but isn't any more effective is a damn fool.
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hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Colette Meiji
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03-21-2008 13:34
From: Conan Godwin
Banlines are free, which to my mind makes security devices cost infinity times more.

Anyone, in any area of life, who would choose Option B over Option A when Option B costs infinity times as much as Option A but isn't any more effective is a damn fool.



Evidently you all don't have a huge Bottled Water Industry there in the UK.
Conan Godwin
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03-21-2008 13:35
From: Colette Meiji
Evidently you all don't have a huge Bottled Water Industry there in the UK.


I like tap water because of the free female sex hormones it contains that give breasts and lowers my sperm count.
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From: Raindrop Cooperstone
hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Kira Cuddihy
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03-21-2008 13:43
From: Conan Godwin
I like tap water because of the free female sex hormones it contains that give breasts and lowers my sperm count.

Works just fine for me. Would you please show us your picture of Ruth?
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Kathy Morellet
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03-21-2008 13:46
From: Conan Godwin
I like tap water because of the free female sex hormones it contains that give breasts and lowers my sperm count.


Bottled water has all that too and comes in a non-biodegradable bottle you can toss on the side of the road when you're done with it.
Dagmar Heideman
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03-21-2008 13:49
From: Sling Trebuchet
When I said "bordering on sociopathic" I was referring to people who set up ban lines in the knowledge of the damage they inflict on the environment and with knowledge of the alternatives available to them.
It's still a misuse of the term in a self-serving statement. Btw I don't need to look up the word hypocrite I know what it is and so do most of the people reading this thread. Admitting the very things that make you one and then denying that you are one and making silly remarks to look up the word doesn't change the facts.
Conan Godwin
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03-21-2008 13:50
From: Kathy Morellet
Bottled water has all that too and comes in a non-biodegradable bottle you can toss on the side of the road when you're done with it.


Right, you've convinced me. I'll take 12 bottles please. Make sure they come in six-packs with those plastic links that sea birds get their head's stuck in too.
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From: Raindrop Cooperstone
hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Brenda Connolly
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03-21-2008 13:51
From: Conan Godwin
I like tap water because of the free female sex hormones it contains that give breasts and lowers my sperm count.

Pics or it didn't happen.
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Conan Godwin
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03-21-2008 13:53
From: Brenda Connolly
Pics or it didn't happen.


I warn you, it's not pretty.

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From: Raindrop Cooperstone
hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Trout Recreant
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03-21-2008 14:03
From: Conan Godwin
Banlines are free, which to my mind makes security devices cost infinity times more.

Anyone, in any area of life, who would choose Option B over Option A when Option B costs infinity times as much as Option A but isn't any more effective is a damn fool.


lol badmathaments.

Sorry, wrong forum. Seriously. Bad math. I understand your point but "infinity times more"?

The reason you would do it is because dropping the US equivalent of a few bucks to be a good neighbor is a nice thing to do. Spending a couple minutes to set up your security orb properly so it isn't orbiting your neighbors and it has a short delay (not 6 minutes - 10 seconds is fine) so people have a chance to amscray if they wander onto your property by accident is also a nice thing to do. Given the choice between spending a couple dollars and being a nice guy and keeping a couple dollars and bieng kind of a jerk to the neighbors, I'm picking nice guy almost every time.
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03-21-2008 14:05
From: Trout Recreant
lol badmathaments.

Sorry, wrong forum. Seriously. Bad math. I understand your point but "infinity times more"?

The reason you would do it is because dropping the US equivalent of a few bucks to be a good neighbor is a nice thing to do. Spending a couple minutes to set up your security orb properly so it isn't orbiting your neighbors and it has a short delay (not 6 minutes - 10 seconds is fine) so people have a chance to amscray if they wander onto your property by accident is also a nice thing to do. Given the choice between spending a couple dollars and being a nice guy and keeping a couple dollars and bieng kind of a jerk to the neighbors, I'm picking nice guy almost every time.


MathS

Besides, neighbours are all jerks. Do unto others before they do unto you.
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hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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03-21-2008 14:07
From: Conan Godwin



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03-21-2008 14:08
The limit of 0n as n tends to infinity is still 0.
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03-21-2008 14:14
From: Sling Trebuchet
When I said "bordering on sociopathic" I was referring to people who set up ban lines in the knowledge of the damage they inflict on the environment and with knowledge of the alternatives available to them.

If you like using long words and don't like people picking on how you use them, you can always resort to the claim that language is evolving. You don't have to spin your argument with subjective qualifiers.

"Rude" would have been perfect.
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