Although to be honest, that given, you didn't have to waste any more of your valuable time by answering so ascerbically either.
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Ann Launay
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03-23-2008 21:11
Although to be honest, that given, you didn't have to waste any more of your valuable time by answering so ascerbically either. But it's fun! ![]() _____________________
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Stephen Wisent
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03-23-2008 21:15
But it's fun! ![]() Lol.. maybe.. but doesn't it distract you from patrolling the boundaries of your little virtual patch of SL..? Actually I think I saw one of those pesky freeloaders sneak in and use your toilet while you were wasting time on me... ![]() |
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Ann Launay
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03-23-2008 21:21
Lol.. maybe.. but doesn't it distract you from patrolling the boundaries of your little virtual patch of SL..? Pfft, that's the orb's job. Besides, like I've said, my actual land is open to everyone, it's just the skybox I keep to myself. Actually I think I saw one of those pesky freeloaders sneak in and use your toilet while you were wasting time on me... ![]() Ha, shows what you know! I don't even have a toilet. ![]() _____________________
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Stephen Wisent
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03-23-2008 21:27
Pfft, that's the orb's job. Besides, like I've said, my actual land is open to everyone, it's just the skybox I keep to myself. Yeah I know (you made me feel guilty so I went back and read the thread properly)...See you're actually a commune living hippy in the making.. fight it as much as you want...it's happening.. Ha, shows what you know! I don't even have a toilet. ![]() Oops.. then he's left something nasty in the hall.... |
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Ann Launay
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03-23-2008 21:30
Oops.. then he's left something nasty in the hall.... I don't have a hall either... _____________________
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Stephen Wisent
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03-23-2008 21:31
I don't have a hall either... Litter Tray? |
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Damien1 Thorne
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03-23-2008 21:33
Litter Tray? ![]() |
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Ann Launay
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03-23-2008 21:39
Litter Tray? I have a sand beach...and that may also explain my lack of need for ban lines. ![]() _____________________
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Stephen Wisent
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03-23-2008 21:45
I have a sand beach...and that may also explain my lack of need for ban lines. ![]() I'm guessing it's only a deterent if they decide to tunnel their way in..or do that thing where you bury yourself up to your neck.. ![]() |
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Ricardo Harris
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03-23-2008 22:08
If they pay on your tier cost, yes Don't you just love freeloaders? I keep my security system at all times as its land I bought and tier I pay. It's now "PRIVATE" property. So, I feel the same way you do. I don't pour my hard earned money into SL for everyone else's enjoyment.Watch it! They might think it's me talking. |
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Deira Llanfair
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03-24-2008 00:23
But it's fun! ![]() Time for pie, Ann? I think of SL like web hosting I'm paying for. I pay for it for a number a reasons. The web site is a fancy 3D one, but the principle is the same. Just as some web sites are public, others are private and some you have to join a "group" and login to see. The issue seems to me to be more about the "front page" message where you tell the SL world who can see your SL web site. On a traditional 2D web site, you can give all the details on the front page. You can build quite sophisticated web portals and gateways - but in SL we are limited to ban lines or security orbs - and these don't give much information about the 3D web site, nor do they stop viewing by caming in. The available functionality is just a bit limited at this point in time. _____________________
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Jumpman Lane
JUMPY!!!
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03-24-2008 00:56
If you can do all that in 20 seconds, unfortunately freeze whears off before you can get an AR off too. Many seem to believe freezing a griefer who's randomly orbiting people for 4minutes is in itself griefing somehow.................................. Better to just eject eveyone without talking to them so they can rezz a thousand replicating bannana phones on your neighbours land instead ![]() it's work teege but ya gotta keep re frezing them andhow can usng ur land powers on ur land b griefing a giefer. seriously the tards should have stayed at home. AND can always logg off even if theyhave to unlug thier computers _____________________
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Maggie McArdle
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03-24-2008 01:24
Sorry, I know this thread had pretty much died a natural death, but I thought I'd resuscitate it one last time. I first visited SL in 2006, it doesn't sound like a long time ago but to be honest SL felt like a much more open and friendly place back then. For one think you couldn't just TP to where you wanted on the map, you had to TP to the nearest Telehub and then fly/walk to your destination. As a result you couldn't help but meet people, just the simple act of going from A to B meant you would see new people.. ask directions.. make friends. Also, as far as I remember, there was none of this "keep off my land" stuff. Yes, you'd be sitting in your living room and someone would walk past just outside your window. For the most part they'd be simply out exploring or looking around. If they turned out to be a complete jerk, you'd send them packing and ban them, but mostly you'd have a chat, show them what you've been up to, and they'd move on with a friendly wave.. you never know.. they may even have become a new friend.. ![]() I admit there were many times I logged in at home to find a couple of avatars I didn't know jumping around on my bed.. So what? You say hello.. if they even attempt to look embarrassed and say hello back.. something interesting has happened.. if not.. hit eject and they're gone. It's not like you really have to wash the soiled sheets ![]() I'm really not a commune living hippy in RL, but to be honest I don't understand this fixation with security and property in a "safe" virtual world. Yeah ok you spend a few dollars a month on your little bit of server resource, but what is the point of building walls around yourself and losing the opportunity for serendipity that SL offers you? I guess I'm lucky in RL, I live in a small market town in the UK and pretty much know most people here to talk to, if not by name. However I do also work in London a lot and have lived in cities where many people are like little islands of paranoia who wouldn't recognise their neighbours if they fell over them in the street. I just have to ask.. what is the point of replicating that in SL? Basically you're paying some money to be in SL, and then paying even more money to limit the opportunities which being here offers. In my opinion if the $10 or $20 or $500 you spend in SL is such a big deal to you that you feel you have to isolate yourself and spend time stressing about who might get to access it "for free" while you're not looking..you really need to reconsider your priorities and investment.. otherwise why not just stay in RL? you missed the point entirely. as Ann stated, if i wish to meet someone she and by that same token, i, can go out. however while i'm at my "safe virtual land" that i pay real USD for, i should have, and expect, some modicum of privacy. this entitlement mentality is the main reason why so many insular communities are popping up. the 10, 20, or 500 dollars that most spend gives them the right to pick and choose whom they wish to allow access to their land. i love how the words " paranoia" and "sociopath" get tossed around like party favors by those who think they have the right to go anywhere they please, and do what they please. hence banlines, and security orbs. don't like them? tough, maybe those who constantly complain should pony up and pay others tiers, that way you can dictate what you wish. but since we know thats never gonna happen, i suggest having a coke and a smile. _____________________
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Ike Fairweather
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03-24-2008 02:48
Watch it! They might think it's me talking. Hehe, I just laugh at how people whine about not being able to go wherever they want for free when people spending money (land cost plus monthly tier) just to have an area of their own. If that's the case, maybe we need to start setting all land to "Sell Passes to:" for temporary access. I bet that will be worse than banlines to them. Make them help pay for tier cost. |
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Stephen Wisent
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03-24-2008 02:49
you missed the point entirely. as Ann stated, if i wish to meet someone she and by that same token, i, can go out. however while i'm at my "safe virtual land" that i pay real USD for, i should have, and expect, some modicum of privacy. this entitlement mentality is the main reason why so many insular communities are popping up. the 10, 20, or 500 dollars that most spend gives them the right to pick and choose whom they wish to allow access to their land. i love how the words " paranoia" and "sociopath" get tossed around like party favors by those who think they have the right to go anywhere they please, and do what they please. hence banlines, and security orbs. don't like them? tough, maybe those who constantly complain should pony up and pay others tiers, that way you can dictate what you wish. but since we know thats never gonna happen, i suggest having a coke and a smile. Ahhh.. and I also love how when you dare to question the "conservative".. and yes the small "c" is important..values that seem to have pervaded SL recently, it is immediately assumed that you're one of the "freeloaders" in question. Perhaps I'm one of those horrible exceptions that prove the rule.. ![]() Either way, you're all right.. you pay your dollars and you make your bed. I'd probably note however that clinging to ...by its very definition..a "virtual" and may I say at best "rented" set of rights, you say more about yourself than the imagined freeloading hoards you all appear to despise so much. Maybe you despise them so much because this "party favour" of paranoia is based on the fact that you worry.. in SL and RL.. that the only thing really seperating you from the horrible masses is the ability to find a spare $20 a month and an overbearing need to defend what that small sum buys at the expense of almost everything else... Just my opinion though.. but hey.. on the face of it a mutinuous opinion from one of "us".. ![]() |
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Ike Fairweather
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03-24-2008 02:59
Ahhh.. and I also love how when you dare to question the "conservative".. and yes the small "c" is important..values that seem to have pervaded SL recently, it is immediately assumed that you're one of the "freeloaders" in question. Perhaps I'm one of those horrible exceptions that prove the rule.. ![]() Either way, you're all right.. you pay your dollars and you make your bed. I'd probably note however that clinging to ...by it's very definition..a "virtual" and may I say at best "rented" set of rights, you say more about yourself than the imagined freeloading hoards you all appear to despise so much. Maybe you despise them so much because this "party favour" of paranoia is based on the fact that you worry.. in SL and RL.. that the only thing really seperating you from the horrible masses is the ability to find a spare $20 a month and an overbearing need to defend what that small sum buys at the expense of almost everything else... Just my opinion though.. but hey.. on the face of it a mutinuous opinion from one of "us".. ![]() $20?? Try $125/month. All I can say is, enjoy teleporting back home. |
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Stephen Wisent
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03-24-2008 03:00
$20?? Try $125/month. All I can say is, enjoy teleporting back home. You know the old saying Ike.. if you have to mention the cost.. you really can't afford it.. ![]() |
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Max Herzog
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03-24-2008 03:10
Good to see that the time honoured code of shoving a winking emoticon at the end of a post to indicate that no, no way am I being an enormously tedious, patronising tosspiece, is still de rigeur.
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Stephen Wisent
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03-24-2008 03:13
Good to see that the time honoured code of shoving a winking emoticon at the end of a post to indicate that no, no way am I being an enormously tedious, patronising tosspiece, is still de rigeur. Ahh... the high road...and obviously the addition of some tourist book French isn't..? I realise that I use the winking emoticon too much, but until they provide a decent sneer, then that's the best I can do when faced with confrontational, small minded and bigotted idiots like you. ... take it how it's meant Max. |
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Max Herzog
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03-24-2008 03:20
Ahh... the high road...and obviously the addition of some tourist book French isn't..? I realise that I use the winking emoticon too much, but until they provide a decent sneer, then that's the best I can do when confronted by confrontational, small minded and bigotted idiots like you. ... take it how it's meant Max.Not confrontational in the slightest, Stephen, it's not really my style. I've just tired of watching you patronise just about every person you enter into discussion with. Pantomine villainy seems to be a popular stance these days. Nice touch with the tourist book French. Wrong, of course, but nice touch. _____________________
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Stephen Wisent
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03-24-2008 03:32
Not confrontational in the slightest, Stephen, it's not really my style. I've just tired of watching you patronise just about every person you enter into discussion with. Pantomine villainy seems to be a popular stance these days. Nice touch with the tourist book French. Wrong, of course, but nice touch. "patronising tosspiece"...? If that's not you being confrontational Max, I'd hate to see you when you are. It seems that the allegation of "patronising" can cover a lot of ground on these boards..but I'm not sure where I strayed into that particular minefield.. Don't tell me it's because I have a vocabulary, or worse yet that I choose to tease someone who attempts to add credibility to an argument by telling us how much he spends.. Ok, my argument for freeing up SL completely sucks... you're all right and I'm wrong, I'm misguided and fundamentally at odds with how the world works. There you go chaps...victory is yours. Your small corner of cyberspace is forever yours and you can spend all the time you want flitting between the Forum and your homes.. and your shops (which are empty).. and your homes.. and the Forum.. Your world, your imagination indeed. See not a wink in sight Max |
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Max Herzog
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03-24-2008 03:38
See not a wink in sight Max There's something, then ![]() _____________________
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bilbo99 Emu
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03-24-2008 04:58
Neighbour A has a nice, open homestead. No locks, no orbs, lots of poses and animations and a come-one, come-all invitation.
Neighbour B has a closed, locked, orbed home with banlines, the works. Invited guests only. They both have paid for their little (or large) plots. No high road, no low road. French, Swahilli, whatever .. neither are more wrong or more right than the other and nothing said in this or any other thread is going to alter this. I found this out the hard way .. by taking one stance a while back and being blown out of the water. It's a no-win situation. We just got to live with it. Respect your neighbour. Heck! if only we could do that IRL! _____________________
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Rioko Bamaisin
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03-24-2008 05:03
I can understand your points Stephen,some are even valid to ME,but not everyone thinks the same way. It's not really any of your business what others do with their property. I pour tons of money into SL every month. If I want to ban people with an X in their name, I will. (Sorry Max
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Sling Trebuchet
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03-24-2008 05:16
Neighbour A has a nice, open homestead. No locks, no orbs, lots of poses and animations and a come-one, come-all invitation. Neighbour B has a closed, locked, orbed home with banlines, the works. Invited guests only. They both have paid for their little (or large) plots. No high road, no low road. French, Swahilli, whatever .. neither are more wrong or more right than the other and nothing said in this or any other thread is going to alter this. I found this out the hard way .. by taking one stance a while back and being blown out of the water. It's a no-win situation. We just got to live with it. Respect your neighbour. Heck! if only we could do that IRL! OK. I'll bite. I do firmly believe that we should try to respect our neighbours as a matter of course. Your Neighbour B above is not being respectful to the other neighbours. It's not the desire for relative privacy that it disrespectful. It's the manner in which this is expressed/implemented that is disrespectful. A security device that does not scan and shout beyond the boundaries of the parcel is a respectful thing. A 50 metre high set of glowing alpha-mis-sorting ban lines that deprives neighbours of the full use and enjoyment of the land that they are paying for is very disrespectful. Your neighbour B is insisting on his rights but disrespectfully denying the rights of his neighbours. |