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Cole Riel
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10-25-2007 00:51
That's the thing, everyone is so thin skinned. Now because one guy said that all of a sudden it has to do with persecution and everything wrong under the stars?

It's not like its not a common term in slang. The person wasn't referring to anyone but the show. But now it's being diverted to people? I don't believe this was the intent to begin with.
I can say you're insulting them by merely saying "those people" yet I won't because as I don't think you're insulting them, same as the op when he described the term. You see this?
Kaimi Kyomoon
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10-25-2007 01:03
You know what? I didn't have to hear about too many people getting beat up - and worse - just because they were gay before I did get thin skinned about gay bashing.

I agree it's possible the OP is just mindlessly repeating a phrase he's heard others use. But I don't believe I'm being too sensitive. He and you are being too insensitive. And if you can't see that I rest my case.
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10-25-2007 01:05
From: Raymond Figtree
As someone who did a lot of freaking at Grateful Dead concerts, I was also very put off by the term. Ask anyone who saw me during the Iko Iko at Charlotte '91...it wasn't pretty.


I feel your pain. ;)
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Stylee Streeter
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10-25-2007 01:06
anyway about csi lol.....

didnt have much impact realy.

back to the drawing board guys.

how about a proper marketting campaign instead? i.e. tv, press, posters etc
Raymond Figtree
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10-25-2007 01:11
From: Stylee Streeter
anyway about csi lol.....

didnt have much impact realy.

back to the drawing board guys.

how about a proper marketting campaign instead? i.e. tv, press, posters etc
to afford that they'd have to raise our tier. If 20 million impressions that CBS PAID LL to give them did not work, I doubt putting up some posters will.
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10-25-2007 01:11
From: Stylee Streeter
anyway about csi lol.....

didnt have much impact realy.

back to the drawing board guys.

how about a proper marketting campaign instead? i.e. tv, press, posters etc


Has there ever been an actual, *really* successful "tie in" from real life entering the virtual world as far as a brand or product goes?

I can't think of one. Can anyone else?

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Tiberious Neruda
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10-25-2007 01:16
When 'our hero' was rolling his av, did anyone notice the two avs towards the bottom on the male and female sides?

Looked to me like the Luskwood Ringtail... :3

And how does one get to be an extra? Why -wouldn't- they allow furries? Something wrong with us?
Stylee Streeter
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10-25-2007 01:19
From: Raymond Figtree
to afford that they'd have to raise our tier. If 20 million impressions that CBS PAID LL to give them did not work, I doubt putting up some posters will.


you would be suprised. all you gotta do is look at how successfull 'the sims' became after aggresssive advertising
Raymond Figtree
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10-25-2007 01:25
From: Stylee Streeter
you would be suprised. all you gotta do is look at how successfull 'the sims' became after aggresssive advertising
I'm too tired to debate why one has very little to do with the other... But I'm glad to see your ad farmer days are long behind you :)
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Stylee Streeter
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10-25-2007 01:27
From: Raymond Figtree
I'm too tired to debate why one has very little to do with the other... QUOTE]

no need to debate. in RL i work in media consulting so you can take my opinion as professional ;-)
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10-25-2007 01:35
From: Stylee Streeter
From: Raymond Figtree
I'm too tired to debate why one has very little to do with the other... QUOTE]

no need to debate. in RL i work in media consulting so you can take my opinion as professional ;-)
I've been writing and directing commercials for 20 years. Advertising ain't gonna save SL. Fixing SL will save SL.

The worst thing that could happen right now for SL would be a successful advertising campaign. Create a stable platform that runs well with 50K+ concurrent online and then talk to me about attracting people.
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Stylee Streeter
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10-25-2007 01:40
From: Raymond Figtree
I've been writing and directing commercials for 20 years. Advertising ain't gonna save SL. Fixing SL will save SL.

The worst thing that could happen right now for SL would be a successful advertising campaign. Create a stable platform that runs well with 50K+ concurrent online and then talk to me about attracting people.


i Thought you were too tired to debate. lol

anyway advertising is always benificial if it is targeted atthe right audience. ofcourse having a stable system is vital, but thats not the point. the point is they used csi as a marketting campaign. so they obviously want more new users, and therefore im saying a proper advertising campaign would have more impact.

just because you write and direct commercials does not make you an expert in understanding the dynamics of marketting sciences. you just do the arty farty side of it as directed by your clients and their consultants ;)
Raymond Figtree
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10-25-2007 01:45
From: Stylee Streeter
i Thought you were too tired to debate. lol

anyway advertising is always benificial if it is targeted atthe right audience. ofcourse having a stable system is vital, but thats not the point. the point is they used csi as a marketting campaign. so they obviously want more new users, and therefore im saying a proper advertising campaign would have more impact.

just because you write and direct commercials does not make you an expert in understanding the dynamics of marketting sciences. you just do the arty farty side of it as directed by your clients and their consultants ;)
My point is that more impact will kill SL faster than no impact right now. Or maybe they are just trying to get their membership numbers up enough so they can sell out, performance issues be damned.

And yes, I know very little about the dynamics of marketing sciences...even though I have won 15 Effies, the advertising award for ads that are the most effective selling products. But at least I know how to spell "marketing".:)
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Bradley Bracken
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10-25-2007 01:53
From: Winston Ackland
alright, against my better judgment, i watched it. omg, how freaking gay it was!


As a gay man I can only assume that your first sentence meant that you were delighted with the show. The rest of your comments, however, implied it wasn't your cup of tea. I'm very confused. Certainly you are not so ignorant that you would use a term which describes who I am as a way to express your disdain for the show.

I'm sure it must have been a typo.
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Raymond Figtree
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10-25-2007 01:57
From: Bradley Bracken
As a gay man I can only assume that your first sentence meant that you were delighted with the show. The rest of your comments, however, implied it wasn't your cup of tea. I'm very confused. Certainly you are not so ignorant that you would use a term which describes who I am as a way to express your disdain for the show.

I'm sure it must have been a typo.
Bradley, why are we still up on a weeknight?
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Bradley Bracken
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10-25-2007 02:04
From: Raymond Figtree
Bradley, why are we still up on a weeknight?


One of the joys of being a grown up is not having someone to tell me it's time to go to bed. Sometimes my body tells me, but I just tell it to go to hell. Tonight is one of those nights.

Now....what are YOU doing up?
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Stylee Streeter
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10-25-2007 02:13
From: Raymond Figtree
My point is that more impact will kill SL faster than no impact right now. Or maybe they are just trying to get their membership numbers up enough so they can sell out, performance issues be damned.

And yes, I know very little about the dynamics of marketing sciences...even though I have won 15 Effies, the advertising award for ads that are the most effective selling products. But at least I know how to spell "marketing".:)


well i disagree. they are having no more crashes now with 50k peak then they did with a 30k peak. i believe they are prepared to except the amount of system slow downs based on current peaks and could quite easily accommodate an extra 10 or 20k if the opportunity arose. its just a question of server capacity wich isnt that hard to increase. system slow downs have nothing to do with the downturn rigtht now and you know it. that is related to other things which im sure your well aware of and are legal issues.

and dont realy care how i spell on a internet forum and how many efffing effies you have
Pierce Kronos
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10-25-2007 02:41
I watched and thought both the show and the depiction of SL were okay -- neither was fabulous nor bad. I do wonder though at the number of sims they have prepared for the follow-up transition into SL ... it seems a bit of overkill unless they are planning on doing a lot more promoting of their "game."

It seems to me that if they're going to wait until 02/08 to do the second show, they're going to lose a lot of interest between now and then without some sort of continuous hype.
Stylee Streeter
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10-25-2007 02:44
From: Pierce Kronos
I watched and thought both the show and the depiction of SL were okay -- neither was fabulous nor bad. I do wonder though at the number of sims they have prepared for the follow-up transition into SL ... it seems a bit of overkill unless they are planning on doing a lot more promoting of their "game."

It seems to me that if they're going to wait until 02/08 to do the second show, they're going to lose a lot of interest between now and then without some sort of continuous hype.


agreed. the whole thing seems very fragmented
Maggie McArdle
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10-25-2007 02:57
From: Tomas Gandini
From what I've heard the crime won't be solved until February 2008. That may or may not be the case.

I watched it. I only wish my SL worked as well as CSINY's SL worked.


lol mine too, but in some scenes you could see the lag monster makin his screen debut. all in all, considering how sl could have been portrayed, it was not half bad.

im sadden to see so many were expecting the usual sl shenannigans. but due to time constraints, budget, and the like what did you expect? me personally, since the lead char appears to have insomnia, would like to see him get hooked on sl...but thats just me...
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Zedja Darkstone
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10-25-2007 03:24
Through all this all I can think about how shooting it came about. I mean, how do you direct the thing.

"BTW, Nice shoes, where did you find them?"

"CUUUUUT :D Be quiet. We are trying to shoot here!!"
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10-25-2007 03:47
I'm just glad they resisted - so far - to over emphasize the sleaze factor.
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10-25-2007 03:53
it wasnt as bad as it could have been, it was pretty much tv, not showing the real stuff
but the guy dancing with the doll thing in the beginning was freaky :p
made sl look less freaky


and what was with that floor to ceiling tv thing they had wtf?
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10-25-2007 03:57
I didn't watch the show so I can't comment on how it portrayed SL, but on the marketing aspect, not as an insider or expert, sometimes "experts" have the least insight on the reality of things, as an average consumer, aslick ad cmpaign may make me notice a product and try it out, but if it's sit, it's shit no matter how you market it. This stunt may bring in a horde of new residents, especially if they can do it for free, but how long will they stay, will the spend money in world, or buy the products that the RL will soon be pusging on us I believe in world, if the program doesn't work right?
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Cole Riel
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10-25-2007 04:06
From: Kaimi Kyomoon
You know what? I didn't have to hear about too many people getting beat up - and worse - just because they were gay before I did get thin skinned about gay bashing.

I agree it's possible the OP is just mindlessly repeating a phrase he's heard others use. But I don't believe I'm being too sensitive. He and you are being too insensitive. And if you can't see that I rest my case.

Now you've jumped into "gay bashing?" What began as a mere slang statement which wasn't intented as an insult has now become gay bashing? You're your own worse enemy.

And I'm not defending the op because I don't know this person. Actually, I don't even recall his/her name. But anyone can see it was meant as something other then an insult. Everyone except those who right away scream bloody murder at the mere mention of anything they themselves deem offensive. Which be the way seems to be just about everything under the stars.
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