Blondin, you have some Esplanin to do.

"BE MOVED"

in this context, means exactly the same as "be Swapped" for those who didn't learn English as their native language.

I think Blondin has done enough Esplanin..

..months of it, in fact, and we're still no closer to getting any real answers, even with the "move" in full swing.

I think they're just trying to make sure people don't game the system - that those who move are genuine adult content providers.

I don't see anything wrong with that.

The -quality- of what has moved though, has varied greatly. There are a few amazing places on Zindra, and a lot of very garish ones.

Worrying to me right now is that on the same sim as a very well designed club are two neighbor clubs also well designed - meaning the three will be competing for the same audience... I almost wish one of them had been a junky garish poseball paradise so as to keep the clubs from preying upon each other...

- But, at least everybody on Zindra so far, from what I can see, belongs there. Granted I haven't seen everything yet...

Doesn't that mean Blondin has done no real Esplainin?


I think he just did a lot of hemming and hawing and isn't sticking by the things he said.

Game the system how exactly?

By having Adult Content on their Mature land they wished to be Adult land .. so that it can have adult content on it?

Its a mix - lots of empty Sims, lots of built out but still empty sims, a few specialty clubs that are packed (a femdom club, an escort business, a 'gore-fetish' place, and a male-strippers joint), and a couple poseball paradise spam houses that are packed with bots.

Well, you can call it whatever you like, but at the end of the day, it amounts to less than a fart in a hurricane for all the good it did.

I wonder if the only reasons Blondin and Blue and Jack made any statements and answered questions was to blunt the opposition of this idea into a sort of apathetic grumbling acceptance.

They had no intention of being held accountable for the things they said during their propaganda/disinformation push.

Since they were going to do what they wanted to do all along, what the residents thought or wanted did not matter.

I won't say that he lied (though he may have), but I will say that even assuming he didn't, we all saw this coming when they set out what would be adult and what would be mature, and that's it's quite possible that he was only operating on what he was told, which was later retconned further up the chain...

I *WILL* say LL lied, both blatantly and indirectly, by supplying one set of figures (that anyone could see were ridiculous PR perversions) that didn't match any users common knowledge, and by supplying a theoretical out that they knew could not possibly meet demand... all with a view to enhancing their image outside of their user base.

Yeah, well, I said that months ago.

The situation will cause a hellish concentration of adult content places, all lagging and competing with each other for fewer customers.

If they were smart, they would have allowed anyone to swap and they could have some other kinds of adult/mature places to break up the physical concentration and monotony, but Blondin et al wouldn't listen to what we were saying. He and the other involved Lindens have maintained their cluelessness and incompetence throughout the whole ordeal.

I said it was going to be a train wreck of epic proportions, but it's going in slow motion, so everyone thinks it is "not so bad".

Just wait; give it a few months. I'm game to see how close my predictions of "doom n gloom" will be tested against the reality of what ends up happening.

it is a bit of a wasteland atm. They are only up to processing the tickets put in at 10:37AM on the first day tickets opened (June 29th).



see this info here: http://slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Governance_Team_Actions

Lots of landbarons claiming land and lots of Adult Content Providers being turned down. And folks waiting and loosing money and just giving up.

And let us not forget the few million customers that have no idea that any of this is going on. Because Linden Lab does not think it should mass e-mail its customers when it makes such a sweeping change of policy.

You expect Linden Lab and its employies to NOT lie??? You have been in SL this last few years right??
Linden Lab is the most dishonest company I have seen its really supprising is a big way..

And yet you and others keep paying Linden Lab every month and some how you think they will one day stop messing over thier customers.... why? I mean really WHY? They dont need to stop you guys keep paying money so they will keep doing this.
They might listen if you guys pulled out of all land and only cashed out and never cashed in.. but then they would just prolly raise the fee for that lol
They wont listen they dont care and they will lie thier arse off its kinda obvious by now dont ya think?

I think you misunderstood what he meant. It *will* be their choice to move. But they may not get a FREE land swap. They can buy a parcel and move there once the land goes up for general purchase.

At least that was the way I took it to mean.

LL drives a successful strategy to demoralise/discourage/confuse us in a psychological war of attrition.

On all levels.

What surprised me much, is that they need only 2 average employees to do that and they do it perfect.

7-8 lines typing BS per week - first in forums, then in OH's was enough to make all of us dull and mad.

I am sure the CEO is happy like a kid on christmas-day, because of the fact.

I think people are overreacting to this. They saw that people were abusing the system (surprise!) and change the rules. There's no nefarious plot here..


Also brought up very early in the game, many times. The only response was that all zindra regions would be on class 5 hosts.

I wonder if they are or if LL is trying out some new sim management software to put more regions on a server. Its strange that even away from the Linden builds the lag on my land in zindra is far more than on the old mainland.

Well, I refuse to pay for Premium memberships or to buy Mainland, myself. I remain here only because my friends and I have no place to go that is even vaguely comparable to what the SL virtual world has to offer. None of the wanna-be competitors come close. But some day, some competing company WILL offer and equal or better service, and people will leave SL in droves for a better deal. SL survives their terrible management policies ONLY because they have a solid monopoly on this sort of virtual world.

^THIS^
QFT

The only thing that will change the way LL does business is for a competing Virtual World to come along. And yes people will leave in droves, and the more that leave, the more that will follow.. I have seen it before.. A few "go over" and report back how great it is. Their friends follow them over, and then their friends, and so on and so on.. A trickle turns into a stream, then a river, then a flood.. Leaving an empty world behind.

After that happens we will all get those emails.. "Come back to Second Life, we have made some wonderful improvments! Blah, blah, blah.." Nobody goes back..

Do you have neighbors within your draw distance?

If your machine is slightly older, or does not have much RAM, neighbors with massive texture pollution (like a whole lot of 1024x size textures) will without a doubt, create ugly lag for you.

To check, just use the texture console: SHIT+CONTROL+3 - when you select an object the console will light up with the texture sizes on that object. If you then chosoe "select texture" you can then locate individual 1024 textures on link sets.

I would have thought lag on Zindra would be very low. But then again, every sim is sharing a server with another sim, so the land your sim is on could be sharing a server with some lame old-mainland clubs - which would bite.

I don't know..I would think a lot that are fed up would leave but i can see the commerce people using both..If there is money here and in a new world why wouldn't they use both?

Some residents have big investments in their inventories as well..I know it wouldn't be something i would cut lose..Not right away anyways...Not unless it was so good that it had me addicted.. It would have to be something worth getting divorced over i guess and there would have to be a dating period before that even came into consideration..

I'm sure over time the better one would win all my time..I still don't think i would ever give up this account..I would always have to come back to see what has changed and who is still around..

I put my land swap ticket in the first day it was open, albeit several hours after it opened. I am packed and ready to move, and here I sit waiting and waiting. I can't implement "Adult" RP again in my full mainland mature sim because of the "Adult" situations fear. Lord knows, I don't want to be fricking ARed by some well meaning (cough cough) person of the morality board. I am trying to play by the rules here, but LL keeps changing the damn rules.

I don't know where you draw the line on how you define "commerce" or "services", but when I have RP going it is free to everyone. I foot the damn bill cause I like to RP so please process the land swap tickets! No, I don't want to pay more tier for an Island. Good lord, if I could afford it, I would have already moved a long time ago and never bought a fricking mainland sim you so greedily pushed last summer cause you needed more cash.

My mature mainland was just fine till you changed all the rules. I purchased "mature" mainland because YOU--LL said that is what it would take for my product to be "legal" for the TOS. Now, after selling me a product, you say uumm well really you gotta upgrade to Zindra product to be "legal" and/or well that mature we sold you...you may not uumm get to swap it cause uuummm...well you don't sell sex toys... or, uumm you don't have a sex club or escorts selling sex. Great, you sell me a product, you devalue it when the <$1000.00 new sim were created, now you devalue it with the TOS. Thank the God/dess I didn't buy into that Homestead fiasco!

We are tired of the excuses and all your debauches. Just processed the damn tickets and swap everyone that wants land in the new continent with their mainland mature. You created and sold mainland mature in accordance with "adult' TOS over a year ago to those of us that believed you. We swallowed it hook line and sinker to insure we met the TOS. Now, do your part and honor our rights as a consumer to receive the product we expected when we purchased.

You have everything packed up and waiting for your land to be approved?

Not precisely. They said that *advertised* sexual content would have to move, and would be eligible for the swap. When asked about free clubs and the like, they said they didn't have to be businesses, they just had to be advertised.

Yes, it was done out of sheer stupidity on my part because 1) I was stupid to believe LL's information; 2) Unable to find and NOT getting clear information from LL that they needed to see it; 3) Did not find out till after the fact because there were too many places to look for information, too many rumors, and LL kept changing their minds.

I had planned on redoing the build anyway because I was not satisfied with it and was time for a change. I do RP, which in turn I create products for the RP and turn around and sell them as well. Only thing I have out is the new goth mansion I created for the new RP while I wait and wait and wait to see if I get a swap or need to try to sell it and take a major loss on the mainland. It will be worthless I am sure.

I did put all this information in the support ticket as well. I just want them to get this sorted out so I can make some choices on what I need to do. Either land swap or sell my place to buy land in Zindra.