DO NOT use SL to buy anything using your bank account, mine got cleared out

You are mistaken. I did play Diablo 2 for 6 months, (3 months playing without hacks 3 months in God Mode) when it first came out and it was Blizzard's first gigantic online effort. It was in development 10 years ago.

They learned from their mistakes and developed technology that had not existed before. They didn't have years of MMORPG's's to study and learn from when they created Diablo 2. Try duping in WOW--see what happens. I guess LL missed that lesson.

None of that excuses the fact that their staff are unhelpful, sullen and openly rude towards customers.

Two words; Jenevieve Jolie.

Also, it's not gay to like Gerard Butler. Compared to him we're all women.

pardon my mistake, but did you not also just say this earlier:

Gerard Butler is a God. if i were a man, i'd totally be gay on him.

Actually, I think the banks declining LL's charges started because they used to allow gambling in SL. When I was being billed through the UK bank, it showed a UK location, so my bank wouldn't necessarily have known it was a US company.

yeah the gambling thing seems to be a big deal so you might be on to something there. I know for a CC buying chips at a casino is considered a "cash advance" and typically charged higher interest. For a bank debit that shouldn't be an issue, but then again debit *cards* are backed by Mastercard or Visa which prolly introduce a box of landmines.

You know what I mean.

For Mac:

I do!

But how could I resist a line like that?

i thought paypal was to protect u from giving out your banking info?? can someone help me understand this before i get a premium account.. i will for sure use a prepaid card but i thought paypal was a protection?? confused

Jack42, PayPal IS great protection. The OP was talking about his bank account, something totally different. He hasn't been back to clarify the original problem, and he accessed the internet in a very insecure way (WIFI, internet cafes, etc) so there's no concrete proof that what he claims happened actually DID happen.

PayPal is very secure.

Thank you!!

No... really.... . Thank you!

Unfortunately, Paypal pretty much requires you to have a bank account and/or creditcard on file with them. So if someone got access to your SL account thru nefarious means they could drain any paypal balance AND your default backup payment menthod. Paypal is no more and no less secure than anything else. In theory that have decent post-protection in that they will refund any moneys you dispute as fraudulent charges...if for some reason you can't find a brick-n-mortar bank that does locally. Biggest problem I see with Paypal is: has anyone ever SEEN a phone number for them??? Getting ahold of them quickly is nigh impossible...and their customer service is a bit lack-luster in general IMO.

If you do use Paypal, be careful of your chosen "default" backup payment choice. Also look into their virtual card number generator service and give that info to SL. Most CC's also offer this.

"For questions about your Paypal account, please call:
1-402-935-2050 (a U.S. telephone number)" from the "Contact Us" webpage on www.paypal.com

As far as I can tell they are fine with customers except those who are trying to lie themselves out of suspensions or bans----they have the logs for everything. They reinstate people after investigation they reimburse people who are cheated by others, they even fix people's stupid mistakes, such as deleting an item by mistake. They moderate forums they answer questions, they are involved.

Over the years I've called them at least 20 times and can't remember ever hearing anything rude or unhelpful. or sullen.

The complaints people have about Blizzard are silly things like "why did you nerf my fireball" kind of things." complaining about the dumbest things. But face it, with such a huge customer base they are going to have every entitlement-based kid on the planet as a customer.

It is a separate issue that many WOW players are under severe stress due to their 24/7 gaming lifestyle, the actual game related adrenaline stress combining to help of cause their real lives to fall apart. So although Blizzard runs a very tight ship as a company and have a very excellent product---the problem with all of this is the phenomena of millions of kids and young people of High School and College age, worldwide sacrificing their real lives to a fantasy world.

Nowhere are you going to find people saying, " Because of their system, I was cheated out of thousands of dollars, (or gold) etc and [GAME COMPANY] is going to do nothing about it"

hrm, that must be new. I swear I'm not that retarded.

I was not taking about a game developed 10 years ago, which was a pioneer effort obviously---when no one knew how to make an MMO type environment. Besides Diablo 2 was the best and most popular game ever at the time. It was the best example of on online game with a large population and anyone later interested in MMO development played it and should have learned from it, the extent to which players will game a system. WOW is light years ahead of Diablo2 and every security precaution is taken. Blizzard is entirely responsible for their product and they don't let customers get cheated, by scammers that may appear in the game. They have a standard and they stick to it. It's not just lip service.

You must have missed my post about their rudimentary and disappointing game mechanics. Ultimately, WoW is a crap game run by unhelpful people. The End.

i see what one of u was saying.. about paypal.. its good but if a hacker knows your pw . he might as well know your bank account cause paypal will think its the legit user logging in . am i correct?

Whatever. It's phenomenal success speaks for itself. Clealy you are better then they are.

Weak argument Rebecca. The mere fact that I have not produced a video game myself does not prevent me from spotting a bad one.

Also, does appealing to the lowest common denominator really signal quality in your world? I guess that makes Ronald MacDonald the world's best chef then.

@ Rebecca

I have never been banned from Blizzard, nor would there be any reason for me to be, so I have no idea how Cs was with those.

They delete all of my D2 characters after I was inactive for 2 months, when they're policy stated 90 days at the time. A rep in the official support channel did politely tell me he could not do anything, that I would have to contact them thru email and give them some time. My first 2 attempts went unanswered. Third garnered a response, but the individual told me they could not help me unless I gave them the exact date of my last login. I explained it was over 2 months and I did not recall exactly, but that I was positive it was less than 90 days. They flat out refused to help me. I was not the only "entitlement-based kid" complaining of this behavior at the time. But I guess when your Blizzard it's OK to break contract with millions of customers if increasing server storage would adversely affect corporate profitability.

When one of their bugz completely wiped out my whole inventory on one character over one duped item, I had a very similar experience, and no resolution. Tho I blame the azhat that sold me a duped item even tho I only traded in legit channels. Your definition of handling cheaters is different than mine.

Blizzard moderated channels??? Hrm, musta missed all those bliz-employee posts in between all the bot-spam. Their user agreement clearly stated otherwise.

The only complaint I have ever had with "nerfing" the game was actually the opposite. They continually made the game harder to "compensate" for the rampant supply of top-notch equipment. Thus helping those engaged in duping and pindlebotting to *justify* themselves, while the 100% legit user was getting their azz handed to them by over-amped monsters.

Despite all that I *loved* the game and still occasionally play it. Blizzard does produce a great product most of the time and I'm happy to credit them where it's due. Please take off your polarized glasses, they are far from saints. But none of this makes it their fault people become addicted to it. You're blaming the cow for tasting good.

Interesting video about MMO's and hacking.

Holy Moley!! Time is frickin' CUBIC!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn2UCqL5qyo

You were talking about BLIZZARD. As I mentioned before BLIZZARD has a long history which involves more than just one game. But even that one game you're so enamored with focusing on, despite taking every precaution, has still had boatloads of problems. You've been trying to bash LL while singing the praises of Blizzard. Both companies have their good points and bad points. I for one am glad they are two completely different companies. I shudder to think what Blizzard would do to SL.