DO NOT use SL to buy anything using your bank account, mine got cleared out

Chaos has posted in the forum today, but not in this thread that he started. Doesn't that say something about him concerning this thread?

You reap what you sow.

Would you kindly give me all of your L$?

Sure! Since you asked so nicely. As long as you use it to help others.

it's definitely not just you.

Instead they just let everyone go on as normal for a couple of days without letting them know their card info had been breached.

Because everyone knows that is the correct course of action. It makes customers very happy.

Which is better for business; telling people there's a problem or telling people there was a problem but now it's fixed? There was no need for a blog post any sooner in that particular instance. Everyone was informed - everyone who tried to log in over that two day period was redirected to a message on the website informing them of the breach and instructing them to change their passwords. Passwords were reset within hours of the breach taking place. The blog post's only purpose was as an afterthought to reassure people that the problem was solved. LL acted entirely appropriately at the time.

In your opinion. It wasn't smooth for me when that happened. I still remember.

I have had more than one problem w/LL's handling of my money and personal information. Just because it hasn't happened to you yet, doesn't mean everyone else who is unhappy with them is wrong.

I personally will not give them any more access to my credit card information, and will not be giving them any more of my RL money. Whether or not others choose to do so is up to them, but, as for me, I am sharing my experiences as an unhappy customer.

Feel free to cheer LL as you like, but no matter how much you pick at my posts it does not change the fact that there are many others who have had negative experiences with LL.

Oh and as far as passwords being reset within hours, you are correct. Passwords were reset within approximately 48 hours. What other people refer to as "days".

In your opinon.

From this utter hogwash I'm going to ass-ume you've never played Diablo II. Blizzard's handling (or lack thereof) of "duping" completely killed that systems economy. And since inworld items were sellable on eBay, this meant real world income loss to alot of people. Blizzard released mediocre patches several months apart which were only slightly effective to start, easily circumvented within days, and frequently broke other unrelated in game features. Gee that doesn't sound anything like SL Do not assume you know everything there is to know about blizzard based solely on any one game. That word "Warcraft" in WoW refers to a very lengthy history, of just one of their several product lines, all of which include many ups and many downs...much like any other game company. I also literally laughed out loud seeing "Blizzard" and "ethics" in the same sentence. Blizzard has been around a very long time in computer speak, and their track record is rather poor.

As far as some of the other rubbish you've been spewing, I'll happily debate your ill-conceived notions thru PM and save the folks here some tedium. The short of it is: Linden doesn't create content!!! SL is full of perverts and thieves because the REAL world is full of perverts and thieves. Please stop blaming Linden that it can't fix problems the human race has been unable to solve in its several millennia history. Apart from that, your idealization of a self sustainable inworld income as a solution to employ the opiated masses is laughable at best...and down right stoopid if you really believe that. Uhm, hello? The money has to come FROM somewhere. How will people pay themselves to play a game just by playing that game with no real world financial input or product output??? SL is by FAR the closest thing there is to that, in that independents can produce entertainment for others. But it only works at all because the bulk of users are consumers. The abundance of supply in comparison to demand is already at problematic levels, expanding it further can go nowhere.

I also just had to get in line behind all the other folks that asked "then WHY are you *still* here?"

Also, keep in mind how basic a game WoW is. The mechanics of the game, and even it's graphics, would have been considered mediocre in 2000. They use random number generators and stock animations for the combat for crying out loud. They can't even program something as simple as collision detection for the "to hit" part of an attack.

Doing an easy game with rudimentary mechanics well is not necessarily something to be proud of. I take my hat off to those companies that strive to do something a bit more challenging, even if they do have some hiccups along the way.
Don't let me down, Funcom.

Here is a Linden Lab press release that backs up my opinion.

http://secondlife.com/corporate/bulletin.php

The official date on the notice: September 8th. They reported it that day. They became aware and repaired the breach on September 6th. They notified customers September 8th by changing everyone's password.

SAN FRANCISCO, CA. (September 8, 2006) - Linden Lab reported today that it is notifying its community of a database breach, which potentially exposed customer data including the unencrypted names and addresses, and the encrypted passwords and encrypted payment information of all Second Life users.

The breach was discovered on September 6, 2006

If you have something to back up your opinion that they let their users know "within hours", I am more than happy to look at it. Go ahead and post it here.

I originally came to this thread because the title intrigued me. I *don't* trust ANYONE with my financial data. I have no intention of buying $L with my USD and would have never given them the info in the first place. I *HAD* to to be "allowed" access to the forums! (wtf?!?) but anyway, now that they have it, things like what the *title* suggested concern me. However, the OP has yet to really produce any useful information on the subject. It would be really nice to know if there is a genuine flaw in LL security (and what to do about it)...or if Chaos really ought to stay away from skanky-whore internet cafe computers. So far I'm leaning towards the later. But since there's no real meat to this thread, like a pack of hyenas we turned on each other.

...And it was gud.

In your opinion.

In your opinion.

You are stood on a small hillock, in the snow. A road stretches across a plain to the North, where you can see the lights of what appears to be a small village. To the West is a deep river. To the South, the road leads into a dark forest. To the East you see arctic tundra disappearing into the distance, where you can just make out the foothills of a mountain range in the dim distance.

You may go North, South or East. Which way would you like to go?

Comedy gold!

If your bank had a hole in it's vault would you want them to publish that fact on the front page of the newspaper?!? BEFORE the hole has been patched? LL did not withhold this information from *customers*, it withheld the information from those that might exploit it while it was not yet repaired. Even if a fix was applied on the 6th, you don't let the general public in to test it's integrity until you know for sure yourself. That's most likely what took the 2 days. Not broadcasting they had a security breach is the only smart part about it.

LOOK RIVER

You look at the river. It's not very interesting. As you look at the river it dawns on you that the Noob of Destiny thread might be more interesting than this river.

There blog said it was fixed immediately.
Maybe that wasn't true, is that what you were suggesting?

It seems to be what you're suggesting. In my opinion.

Concerning Blizzard and it's stellar record of taking care of things like bots and scams, I just did google search on WOW bots and WOW scams. Looks to me like they have lots of problems with both.