DO NOT use SL to buy anything using your bank account, mine got cleared out

I'm suggesting they applied a patch and then took two days to test if the patch worked. AFTER two days of testing, they said "yup it worked". The only fuzzy grey part is in their confidence level.

Again this also goes with the disclosure of TMI to bad guys. They can't really say "we suck so bad we had a hull breach for two days"...it would give people ideers. "We HAD a problem but fixed it IMMEDIATELY" gives the least encouragement to would-be wannabe h4x0rz.

"true" is relative.

I'm still reading the 240+ page "dead" thread. Far more entertaining than this one. I'll get to your thread in a minute...

I think the word we're looking for here is "pwnd", unless I'm very much mistaken.

In my opinon.

I already gave it away to goodwill.

They handle it and track them all down and prosecute. Of course WOW is the biggest target but they deal with it and ban botters. Bots are against TOS and bannable and Blizzard has the success and workforce to handle it and then some. Thereis software built in to the interface that scans for bots or bad software, when you boot up.

There was a time when the gold farmer spammers went wild, but Blizzard stopped it and it is down by 99% for a year and a half. Of course Blizzard prohibits exchange of the fictional currency, they are of course smart enough to know their job is not to become the federal reserve. They arent that stupid. SL has no business using "Lindens$" as an exchangable currency, when people can buy things in SL using real money---of course you have to have decent security, an airtight setup and actually care to protect their customer base from fraud, and LL disavows responsibility and is just not a safe place for real money. It is however a bonanza for conmen, crooks and money launderers.

Its not the just passwords that need changing it is the Cc info that was encrypted. still 650,000 names including encrypted payment info is still floating out there.

Yep, and that has worried me since it happend. It took LL awhile to admit that there was really CC info compromised as well. If I remember correctly they said it took them awhile to find out what all was accessed. At any rate it was let out.

And yet a year and half later not one single person has had any fraud on their credit card as a result of this hack. Not a single one. If there had been, I'm sure someone would have happily vocalised their misfortune on this forum. But they haven't.

I hear ya, but as long as that stuff is out there it makes me concerned. I don't have the same credit card now but I would not be surprised to start hearing about it happening some day.
This situation is not a result of that though. It would be rampant through the system if they had figured out how to decrypt the info. I am sure they would be looking for the Anshes in the list first though.

The Anshes of this world are smart enough to have taken precautions, and the poor have nothing worth stealing. It's us in the middle that would be the targets.

The fact that nothing has happened means that the stuff isn't out there. Credit card fraudsters act within hours when they get card details, not 18 months later. If they haven't used the data already, it means they didn't get any data to use and we can safely put it behind us and move on.

not sure why you quoted me there. On this part I agree 110% It should have never happened in the first place. I'm not defending LL entirely, merely pointing out there's good reason for the gag-order immediately following an "oops" of this magnitude. If the info was encrypted it's at least possible the person in possession of it doesn't even know what it is. Announcing that CC info was stolen would dramatically motivate that person to crack it faster having verification from the horses mouth of what it contains. Or give them validity in trying to sell it black market to those that can. Depending on their encryption method and how many bits in it etc, it can take a single home user centuries to crack it. Those with access to multiple supercomputers/clusters a few months of doing nothing else. If they *know* it contains CC info, then they would do nothing else.

Let's get a grip on what happened here. Chaos was hacked. There has been no widespread noise about fraudulent activity to give reason to think that LL was hacked and that our information as a whole had been compromised. It's documented that Chaos was probably connecting to the web in an unsafe manner.

This is not a reason for ad hominem attacks on LL. Period. Now get over it.

Should we trust LL? Depending on what you do in here, you may have to. Should we not have compassion for Chaos? We do. No one here is happy about it, but he reaped what he sowed. It is not schadenfreude in any sense. If you want to use this as a platform for another attack on LL, you would be unjustified this time and you need to examine yourself and why you bother to stay here.

LL cannot force Chaos or anyone to connect to the net in a safe manner. At some point we have to be treated like adults.

Total Agreement.

I'd like to think that it goes along with acting like adults...

Yoos all kep tlaking about SL been fer adu1ts. like OMG!!! WTF?!? Prims are fer kids!!!1 Go play on FOREX and git out ma yard!!!1!!

Actually for me personally the whole situation is moot because my bank denies all charges from LL, for some reason they see them as fraudulent charges.

I have heard the same from many others.

Racquel Darrian was always one of my favorite adult actors.

i would have guessed you'd say Jerry Butler or Jenna Jameson. LOLOLOLOL

Now Jenna is very pretty. Don't get me wrong. But there is just something about Racquel.. probably that Native American Indian side of her that gave her the perma tan.

Jerry Butler.. nope, don't swing that way.

i just googled "famous porn star names" and those seemed the most famous as they were first on every list on the 1st page. was just razzing you.

LOL Suuuuuuuuuuure. Now that it is public knowledge that you are a porn freak you are just backpeddling to the 'ol google standby.

but now..... Gerard Butler. *WOOF*

now that's knuckle-biting yummy right thar! *WOOF!*

LOLOL wutever helps you sleep at night.

/me quietly smiles

If a company with a US address is charging you thru a bank in Ireland that *should* seem a little suspicious to most banks. :-?