Direction, percieved unfairness, and the mainstream

Can I build something in ATITD that was never in there before and give it to you and you get to keep it?


You'll be upset at being lied to? Who lied to you? Nobody said you can't do what you want. How could we? Nobody even knows what it is you want to do. You CHOSE to believe that you can't do it. The only person lying to you is you.

No. But neither can most SL users.



Because that choice was made incorrectly as a result of the output of SecondLife.exe which could have given different output.

That's not what I see people saying. I see them saying "You can expect everything that anyone else can expect, but to get that you have to do what anyone else has to do, so you absolutely SHOULD do everything you want to." The only person saying you can't, is you.

No, because people have already said that it's inevitable some people will have sandbox luck (ie, "I _can't_ expect everything that anyone else can expect". They didn't have to prove anything to get a huge incremental boost.

yumi...i dont think you are bad at all...i think you are conflicted and the most stubborn human ive ever chatted with...but not bad...giggling

So the point of all of this is that you have been ignored in the past? Ok, this thread is now over 200 replies and continues to grow: You aren't being ignored. You asked for information on three topics and received information. What other specific information do you need?

As for people ignoring your build because they apparently ignored your posts: People can make distinctions between a person's forum posts and their SL work. So create something that will interest people and these threads will be overshadowed by your work.

But why do you continue to focus on past hurts? Doing so won't further any of your goals or make your dream build come true. It will just be time wasted, as much of this thread appears to be.

Because people are always looking for something new and few (including me) have the ability to judge whether a build is truly "better" anyway, except for things on either end of the spectrum.

If you don't do it, nobody will ever care. The only way to make anyone care is to try.
That's better than the 99.44% of the population in RL who can't do it.

Right. But if people are trying to stop me trying, it's a good sign they won't care even then.



Not for the people in that 75%. Worse for them, actually, because they are subjectively worse off.

Can I get something in ATITD that another player has built? No. Most SL users can accept a gift like that.

You're a human being. You get to choose again.

The only person trying to stop you is you.

And that may actually be worse than getting one that was part of the game system.



.. but still based on the output, which has only gotten worse.

ooh, that sounds neat. lighthouse with a maze around it. I need to look for more mazes in SL.

Again, nonsense. Going for 100 posts before telling me anything about how to align prims, and even then sending me to a product I consider a scam rather than telling me about the client feature?

Are you purposefully trying to spin things in the most negative way? I mentioned Prim Docker because you complained that no one told you about. And I mentioned it only in reference to the information you can get from Googling "SL align prims". The sixth hit on that search is a web page that explains how to align prims quickly. Again, the idea is that you can find a lot of information on your own.

I wasn't trying to stop you by sending you to Prim Docker. That is nonsense.

Arilynn, I'm not saying that _you_ are trying to stop me. Your posts have actually been very helpful. The point relates to the other people here, and in past threads.

I can't *make* that wild dog avatar. I'm in the 75% there, but I don't feel worse off, because I can *buy* it from Toki Cure and Racush Cheeky. Who can I buy a black backed jackal avatar if I want to be a black backed jackal in ATITD? Nobody. You can't add anything to the box, all you can get out is what's on the label.

To hell with ATITD. It doesn't do what I want. I'm not going to play it. But I'm not going to get on the ATITD forums and complain about it.

I really think that people here give honest open answers. They try to guide to what they have found to be helpful. It takes us all awhile to learn what works well for us. Usually there is no one right answer. Some like to use math to align. Many find the product more useful. There was nothing wrong with the answers you got. I suspect that if you interviewed ten people all building the same type of product they would give you ten different answers of thier methods.

Are there little shortcuts that we don't always think to pass on? Definately. Most people cannot know you level well enough in the forum to give you perfect individual advice. They give general advice. I would suggest for more specific advise go to the content creation thread.

My partner and I try to help out lots of people in different small ways. I even considered offering what small assistence I could to you on several occasions, but after seeing you basically malign the people who have tried to help you, I would rather not.

/me stepping back out of this thread for the last time.

You said:


I'm the one who referred you to Prim Docker as an example of the results of a Google search. You then used this as proof that people are trying to stop you.

I think you are viewing the replies on this thread in too negative of a light and pushing aside people's advice for whatever reason. This seems counterproductive to me.

No, your post was helpful. The point is the large number of posts that had to be made before that, and the fact that nobody's suggested anything better.

And that's how people stop me trying - by saying "I would have done this for you, but now I won't, so you've permanently lost out because you dared to ask for help."

The black-backed jackal avatar I just bought from Tokushi Avatars is better than the game system avatar. It looks better, it moves better when I'm "talking", it's got a waggy tail and a waggy tongue. The akita avatar I got from some cool crazy japanese guy can perform two hundred meter circus jumps and express emotions better than the standard avatar. These are better products than the ones that are part of the game system.

If it wasn't possible to do better than the game system products, that just means the building system is crippled crap. Why would I want that?

Amazing.

I don't ever remember seeing so much lack of Gratitude in a series of threads here. People have offered more advice to you....than to almost any other single poster here. They've had to offer it in a patient way as well....going above and beyond the call of duty.

At times, you have been downright ungracious and downright rude....downright hateful to a few.

I'm not going to be nice. I'm going to tell you straight up. That's why you have no friends....and that's why no one wants to hang around you. As far as all the other insecurities....you already had 500 posts to help you with those.

And don't dare ask me how to "change" that. It's already been covered a zillion times.

No - I'm not going to be nice and coddle someone who was extremely rude to a handful of people.

See, now you've said that the only one stopping me trying is myself. Yet consider the meaning of the above message. "I'm not going to get on the forums.." is obvously an analogy to what I'm doing. So you're saying, "SL doesn't do what I want." Which would obviously mean that I shouldn't try it.

Similar things as well. Like "Building on SL is pretty damn easy." Yet I've said I couldn't do it, so that person is saying I couldn't do something easy; in other words, I'm unskilled/inferior for some reason.

No, it's worse because it means someone else makes themselves a beautiful black-backed jackal avatar, chooses not to sell it, and then everyone else can never, ever have an equivalent.

As I've said... posting about the insecurities is going to be a waste of time, because by doing so - rather than giving actual practical help - you just confirm the insecurities. That's not me trying to be rude, it's just me stating the reality of the situation.

If someone says they can't make friends.. how do you solve their insecurity - argue with them for 4 hours about why it doesn't matter or why they can... or be their friend? If you choose to argue, it can only be because you don't want to be their friend.. which proves them right.