So why are kids on Zindra?

ARs did not create this controversy.

yes lets change the whole system of the whole grid for the few that cannot figure out the land system..

i know people that don't understand the rules did

... And because of this, the only person at risk is the one in the child avatar. And, only if someone decides to AR. (^_^)

Considering, people with access to Zindra have either verified their account by identity or credit card. They have a vested interest in being able to stay in SL. Anyone who has access to an (Adult) sim has something to lose. Odds are, eventful meetings like that will be rare, already happen now on (Mature) land with little to no conflict, and will really outrage someone wanting to be outraged. (^_^)y

even if all the sims went adult rated the LL owned roads and hubs won't be ..they still have to keep it in their sims or sims that allow it..

The whole region is rated adult even lL's Roads and hubs walk on any parcel there. it says adult on the top of your screen. that says something right there about what LL will allow on there roads.

So until such times as they change then it's perfectly reasonable to expect the currently existing Global Community Standards to apply is it not? Making up your own standards is a bit of a reach.

Sure let them know about your concerns, I see nobody objecting to people raising concerns. SKY News style gotchas on the other hand do nobody any favours.

Mature sims say mature all over too but the community standards state explicitly that mature content and behaviour isn't suitable for every square metre.

it's not a region..a sim is a region..this is where a lot are making the mistake..the continent
can have pg sims mature sims and adult sims..

the maximum rating for a sim is adult on that continent..the max for one on a mature continent is mature..and pg is pg..

the continent is not rated only the sims by their content..

the land everywhere will say adult because that is the max limit for that content..Adult continent is the highest mainland that will let you go up to an adult rating with your sim

From what they have been posting here - I would not leave that decision in their hands. They seem to have a problem distinguishing what acceptable activities a child avatar should be around. And they blame everyone else when they are photographed in such situations.
What a waste of time ARing the perverted little rascals when it can be avoided and dealt with in the TOS.
We are taking our quarantine from Linen Lab like adults. Any other concessions that we have to give up to get the child avatars out so we can start over with some confidence of not being so easily caught up in some child avatar sex scandal we will make.

If you think it's such a heinous and dangerous thing to view, which you have been stating all through this thread, then you'd have to be a raving numpty to be taking or reproducing such pictures. Seriously, people are heading for a whole big fail if they think that's a sensible approach.

Sesame Street wasn't so popular where I live, never heard of the song



It's a sneak preview, it should be safe for viewing by all ages until such times as the content moves in, then it's a different kettle of fish.

You keep implying that if you move on a 512< plot on any Zindra sim - and rate your 512M PG that means the other 64,488 meters of land on that island within the Zindra Adult Continent can only be PG also.

Ok there is no 'Your" sim in Zindra. Only parcels for sale by Linden Lab. Every sim is owned by Linden Lab and will remain that way forever.

and again no where does it say in the community standerds anything about adult continets
there is no rule in place sayng that it is unaceptible to be naked on a linden road in an adult region.
it says it may not be acceptible everywhere on mature land but it says nothing about adult land!!!

And intill they change teh global standerds to include adult land. there is nothing saying you can not go nakied anywhere expect for the two infohubs LL put up that has a linden owned sign in the hub that states no nudity.
Unless they put up road signs saying no nudity or change teh global standerds no where does it say you can not be nude on linden owned roads in adult regions.

Well it was not. Upon realizing that - change the avatar or leave. OR stay there and cause a scandal as a child avatar on a Adult Continent in the vicinity of a nude woman. Decision Making problems.

Seems like all or most are saying the same thing Argent is, including yours truly.



Dumb question: if it was disallowed in the TOS, how would that be enforced? Abuse Reporting, perhaps?

you cannot change the rating in a sim with a smaller lot than the sim size..
the whole sim would be rated one of the ratings of pg mature or adult..

you can't break it up like that..i never said anything like it at all..

infact i remember saying i don't believe you can and someone came to tell confirm that..

The fail starter when the child was next to the nude woman in Zindra. And Corporate America (the ones looking to move into SL when this is cleared up) is watching.

Oh come on Minx, there's a clue in the world "Global". Until they change the community standards it's pretty much common sense that the Global standards apply.

As an aside nowhere have I seen it stated that the community standards won't apply to adult land.

it applies because of global standards ..zindra is included in the global standards.

Second Life is an adult community, but Mature material is not necessarily appropriate in all areas (see Global Standards below). Content, communication, or behavior which involves intense language or expletives, nudity or sexual content, the depiction of sex or violence, or anything else broadly offensive must be contained within private land in areas rated Mature (M). Names of Residents, objects, places and groups are broadly viewable in Second Life directories and on the Second Life website, and must adhere to PG guidelines.

Global Standards, Local Ratings
All areas of Second Life, including the www.secondlife.com website and the Second Life Forums, adhere to the same Community Standards. Locations within Second Life are noted as Safe or Unsafe and rated Mature (M) or non-Mature (PG), and behavior must conform to the local ratings. Any unrated area of Second Life or the Second Life website should be considered non-Mature (PG).

Lias, as someone who has talked to the Police about a child porn incident and been warned that if I forwarded said email to them I'd be guilty of distributing it, I'd suggest the person taking the photo is being extremely foolhardy if they think it falls into such a category.

ok if you want use common sence then
what about the common sence that it is an adult region explisity created for explit sexual and violent content, and its stated in the tos that child avis are not allowed in the proximity of explicit sexual content.
The new continet was created for the reason of hosting such content. not to be a new mature or PG continet

You can have it both ways
If you want to use common sence and what is implied in there tos about Global content either way its not a place for child avis nudity or no.

When the content moves into Zindra I'll almost certainly agree with you. However there will be other adult sims that are perfectly suitable for child av's, just as there are mature sims now that are perfectly suitable.

Oh, OK that's good info. So entire Zindra will be Adult - but child avatars can buy land there and set up a plot and change the rating to PG.
SO WHAT ARE CHILD AVATARS DOING ON ADULT LAND?
Do you see the loophole? Pervert sets up Escort Facility on plot. On plot next door - pervert's pal in a child avatar sets up a playground. They are following the old TOS rules. Imagine their open backyards: Nude escorts and customers on one plot - children frolicking and playing (some nude) at the plot next door. Send that picture to Microsoft.

Lindne Lab needs to get that adult TOS written and make sure to not allow child avatars in Zindra - and not allow any PG ratings for any Zindra parcel.

Actually I don't think that it is possible to change the rating of a mainland sim at all, even if you own it all. If that were possible, current sim owners would merely change the rating and avoid the move to Zindra.