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So why are kids on Zindra?

Qie Niangao
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06-23-2009 05:19
I promised myself that I wouldn't post again into this recurring nightmare, but:
From: Lias Leandros
Because you want to hide the porn behind a few PG [parcels - and that is not going to fly. And when the entire deception blows up in our faces (like the small blow-back from the child avatar in Zindra last week) you can sit back and blame the smutmongers.
It's simply impossible that any sane person could think that those who are promoting a more diverse Zindra are *anti*-Adult Content. That's quite simply and quite completely insane. (As is imagining common cause with someone who has hundreds of thousands of square meters of Mature Mainland that won't be swapped.)
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06-23-2009 05:21
From: Lias Leandros
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Ian Nider
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06-23-2009 05:21
From: spinster Voom
Yes, I think you may be right.

If she did write it, she is not only only admitting her intent to file false AR's, but she is inciting others to do the same. Not good.

OTOH, If she didn't, all she has to do is say "no" and that would clear the matter up.

Just in case anybody has sigs turned off, here it is again (from Ian's sig):
From: someone

Originally Posted by Feral Mistwalker
Gotta love it when "people" flat out admit they are going to file false abuse reports LOL

[22:16] L... L.......: to keep the child avatars out we have to have impromptu Sex Hud parades through Zindra
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[22:17] L... L.......: if you run into one of the little bastards get a picture of them next to the parade





I know, it's a very heavy thing. I think for the sake of herself she should answer it though. Put it to rest.
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Moesha Yakubu
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06-23-2009 05:21
From: Ian Nider
Don't LL log chat anyway?


i don't know about logging it the way you think they do, but trust me, they are watching this thread.

plus, Lias, with her previous posts has proven to already that she will go to any lengths, including rewriting several posters responses to fit her twisted argument, to prove herself right. by that alone i say yes she did write it.
Lias Leandros
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06-23-2009 05:26
From: Qie Niangao
I promised myself that I wouldn't post again into this recurring nightmare, but:
Forum Crack: One hit and your hooked.
From: someone
It's simply impossible that any sane person could think that those who are promoting a more diverse Zindra are *anti*-Adult Content.
Not anti- just not willing to allow it to be what LL said it would be - and allow it to serve the purpose it was devised to serve.
From: someone
(As is imagining common cause with someone who has hundreds of thousands of square meters of Mature Mainland that won't be swapped.)
I sometimes loose you.
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Ian Nider
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06-23-2009 05:32
From: Moesha Yakubu
i don't know about logging it the way you think they do, but trust me, they are watching this thread.

plus, Lias, with her previous posts has proven to already that she will go to any lengths, including rewriting several posters responses to fit her twisted argument, to prove herself right. by that alone i say yes she did write it.


From the ToS:
".......
You acknowledge and agree that Linden Lab, in its sole discretion, may track, record, observe or follow any and all of your interactions within the Service.
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If you didn't write it Lias, just say...
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Lias Leandros
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06-23-2009 05:34
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Moesha Yakubu
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06-23-2009 05:35
From: Ian Nider
From the ToS:
".......
You acknowledge and agree that Linden Lab, in its sole discretion, may track, record, observe or follow any and all of your interactions within the Service.
........"

If you didn't write it Lias, just say...



key word is "may". they need someone to call attention to the action(i think) before all that can be done. i could be wrong though.
Qie Niangao
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06-23-2009 05:35
From: Lias Leandros
I sometimes loose you.
Someone who rents out a vast amount of Mature Mainland that won't be eligible for a swap has a vested interest in the failure of Zindra and Adult estate sims. It would be disastrous for her if the majority of SL residents become adult-verified--one effect of increasing the diversity of content on Zindra.
Lias Leandros
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06-23-2009 05:38
Qie, lol. Now I understand. Man, you gotta get her out of your system.
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spinster Voom
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06-23-2009 05:41
From: Lias Leandros
noobs


LOL! Classy!

OK, I'm off - I've only been hanging around here to put off changing the cat litter - a chore that seems more attractive by the minute.
Moesha Yakubu
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06-23-2009 05:42
From: spinster Voom
LOL! Classy!

OK, I'm off - I've only been hanging around here to put off changing the cat litter - a chore that seems more attractive by the minute.


i'm just waitin for the cold medz to kick in myself.
Ian Nider
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06-23-2009 05:43
From: Lias Leandros
noobs



God that's sad, you think we are "noobs" because you can't answer a question and think your saving yourself and are somehow more experienced?

Lias if you've incited people to make false AR's your fucked mate, it's a huge breech online or in real life.
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06-23-2009 05:50
From: spinster Voom
LOL! Classy!

OK, I'm off - I've only been hanging around here to put off changing the cat litter - a chore that seems more attractive by the minute.


Too bad you can't use it to bury the turds in this thread.
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06-23-2009 05:51
And Brenda needs coffee also.
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Jig Chippewa
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06-23-2009 06:03
I feel like a kid coming into an adults conversation here but what are you all talking about? I read what I could but it seems all off-base and a bit esoteric. Kids aren't allowed right? And in Zindra they cant just pop on as "children avis" right? Coz that would imply child sex is allowed and that is just f**king disgusting. People who want to play at being kids have plenty of space in PG sims. They cant expect to look like they are 12 and be allowed into a brothel. And let's be honest, Zindra is gonna be one big brothel and orgy room. Teenagers are trickier but 18 is a good cut off age and if a person is age or payment proven then young adult appearance should be fine. In my case I am attracted to any older man anyway so I just hunt for them.
Anyway, that's just my opinion.
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06-23-2009 07:11
From: Jig Chippewa
I feel like a kid coming into an adults conversation here but what are you all talking about? I read what I could but it seems all off-base and a bit esoteric. Kids aren't allowed right?

Right

From: someone
And in Zindra they cant just pop on as "children avis" right?

Apart from it being very unlikely that a minor would pick a minor looking avatar, you're still right, simply because kids aren't allowed in SL.

From: someone
Coz that would imply child sex is allowed and that is just f**king disgusting.

Still right.

From: someone
People who want to play at being kids have plenty of space in PG sims.

This is where you suddenly make a switch from kids playing SL to adults playing AS a kid in SL.

From: someone
They cant expect to look like they are 12 and be allowed into a brothel.

Most SL brothels and such will probably have a "no child avatars allowed" rule. But beyond that, it's already getting greyish to say the least. You probably don't want a child avatar in a place that has explicit pictures on ads all over the place and completely naked poledancers, with explicit comments flying back and forth.
However, if there was a place where there would be no fully nude poledancing (so girls would wear about as much as they do on your avarage family beach), no explicit adverts, or sexually orientated open chat (keep it in IM's rule), then things become slightly less clear already. And yes, such places do exist, I've seen a couple of twenties' style clubs that had these exact rules. As long as the child-avatar does not engage in the sexual part of the content (no engaging in sex, whether it be in chat, IM or humping in the skybox above), there isn't anything to AR or whatever an adult playing a child avatar in that location.

From: someone
And let's be honest, Zindra is gonna be one big brothel and orgy room.

Seeing some residents who are planning to relocate their store, venue or even their HOUSE to Zindra, I find this highly doubtful. Public adult content will be on Zindra, but so will private adult content (some residents want to move just because they have a painting of a naked woman on their wall) and public mature and public PG content. It's up to the owners of the parcels to allow or disallow child-avatars as they see fit while abiding the TOS, and upto the child-avatars to abide those rules or they WILL get a correct AR after them.
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06-23-2009 07:31
From: Jig Chippewa
I feel like a kid coming into an adults conversation here but what are you all talking about? I read what I could but it seems all off-base and a bit esoteric. Kids aren't allowed right?
Not "kid players", no. "Kid toons", yes, in areas that have no adult content or activities, just like anywhere else on the grid. The restriction on kid toons is not based on the rating of the sim, it's based on the actual content of the area and parcels... which is a good thing, because there's not nearly enough room on Zindra for all the private orgy rooms on the grid.
From: someone
And let's be honest, Zindra is gonna be one big brothel and orgy room.
I hope not, but if it is then there won't be any parcels outside the infohubs they can visit, so that would make it a moot point.

What this is about isn't about "yeah, kid toons should be allowed into pornville", it's about "wait to see if it's really wall-to-wall pornville before worrying about whether there's kid toons there".
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