So why are kids on Zindra?

This is true also it's easy to misunderstand coming into SL cold from the real world with out ever having had much interest or concern about what a child av or any other unusual( for the real wolrd) type of appearance and approach to Sl or online might be. So it's easy to pick it up and run with it.

It takes some time and reading and experience to get to know the mechanics of the conceptualism in a place like SL (it's not just a chat room) and the methods SL has in place to counter problems.

it isn't the real world, it is different in a lot of ways. The whole of the net is so new to society still, people are still debating if or not it's a real person they are interacting with. This is how naive the grasp on it's meaning still is.

it's not perfect, but nothing is.

If you want to stop online sex crime, basically most of the citizen communications and sites on the net would have to be shut down.

It seems to me that there really is only one actual hysterical poster here who keeps going back over and over the same personally held beliefs that no amount of sane argument will sway.Agreed. I will be very quick to AR anyone violating the CS especially on Zindra.

That CS applied to PG and Mature continents - not Zindra continent. What nonsense that a slave has to be taken off a leash to walk in Zindra.
The sad part is that you really believe this. Thousands of paying customers have to give up their investments because of such fodder - and LL had to spend man hours and take back hundreds of thousands of mainland meters to make this happen (mainland landmarket impacted by this?). There is nothing positive about child avatar and adult content scandals.
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Explain this please. It seems like you're avoiding the issue.

Your perceptions are wrong. There were more people 50 pages ago also showing concern - you can belittle the situation all you want - that does not make it a non-issue.
We are back in the grey area again - because that nude woman was clearly playing with herself in a Zindra infohub. She has not been reprimanded for that - even though Lindens were there. So it seems even the people that wrote the CS do not know how it applies to Zindra.
And here we go.
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you mean if you are there first and a child avatar that decided to buy in zindra next to you would get you moved again?
you really think you would not hold favor in the who was there first argument?

are you expecting an invasion of child avatars that are going to move there to give people that were moved there a hard time?
you are grabbing worst possible cases..a few came to see zindra..do you really think they would want to live there?



well i was saying you could move to a sim as in adult rated sim..one that sells adult rated lots..



planned out horror.. unless you are talking about the penisthat was there the other night doing stand up
i still say it looks like a badly made rocket lol


i wasn't confused i wasn't the one calling zindra an adult sim or adult rated..it's just an adult continent.


it was to move that content out of site from the future users of sl not the current..

Adult business cannot be next door to a child AV playground - therefore some kid AV can set up a playground on the second to last parcel in Zindra and block a Adult Business from operating merely by their presence there - As the TOS stands now.

You're mixing up "content" and "continent".

That's also something you made up. You can't have sex toys in proximity to a playground, but "in proximity to" doesn't mean what you keep claiming it means.

it applies because of global standards
zindra fits in that global standard and remember zindra is not rated adult or x..and that area was not x rated she was in



i was not serious on that post..trust me no effort went into it..
every change there is everyone worries about a scandal..the onyl ones looking to cause a scandal are the ones that fell off their chairs and saw a chance to grab attention when there was an open house and everyone was invited..
i can't take those two serious at the moment no..

I wouldn't call it a job. In my community, as with many in this part of the country, most of the government is done by volunteers. We have paid administrative staff, but the people who actually make decisions or draft local laws aren't paid. We have a hard enough time getting funding for master plan updates. Suggesting that we hire a planner for bylaw updates would have gotten us laughed out of town meeting and replaced at the next election.

And no, we didn't make stacked assumptions. We took time to understand the legal and practical constraints, as well as balancing the rights of all people involved. We considered a variety of possibilities, not just the ones that would lead to the conclusions we liked.

Who knows. There is nothing in the TOS that says who has the final right to have a business in Zindra - the Adult Content Provider or the Child Avatar setting up an orphanage with a playground.
As it stands now - It is completely conceivable and acceptable.
It was not planned by the adults that were already there all day.
Well, It is not out of site if its posted on the internet with child avatars roaming around in it.
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This would be nice.
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Again I stress, no Lindens were present when the nude woman masturbation thing happened. i am an eye witness. Lias is confusing the incident with Marianne at the opening festivities with something that occured the following day.

I really don't know where you got this idea. As a test, go to any mature sim that has a Linden road or whatever. stand on the Governor's parcel and click on about land,then come back and tell us what you obseved about the parcel rating.

Otherwise, just drop it, as you clearly are laboring under the burden of an amazing amount of mis-information.

i guess what i was trying to say is you don't think they would set there things away from your content or you maybe move your content over or someone do something rather than someone move in that situation?
i don't think it is going to be hit and run..
i really don't..thats me just hoping the good wil come out in people when it counts i guess..

i think right now in the forums where all this is going on it is just a heated topic..

i think a lot of emotions in people are running high..it's the worst time to guess what is going to happen..
it is the best time for someone to be manipulated into joining a side and going out to cause harm..

do you really think someone that is protesting in this way of trying to harm people is really going to do anyone good..
when this cause is over they will have another tomorrow..i mean she doesn't even understand what she is talking about..she kept backing off from people saying she didn't want to talk about it because she was tired of repeating to new people asking the same questions..thats a lazy movement leader if you ask me..

and this wave..it was a show boat full of nothing..just picking someone out in a crowd and defamating a persons character with a fat lie..and it is a lie..this is a person that says she is doing it because she cares about sl but at the same time is hurting people in sl without fact but lies..

you keep talking about these images and what could happen..think for a moment about if people just went to this open house just to see zindra and it was calm..would there be any images or threads or sound waves or anything hurting anyone..would there be any threat or debate going on right now? no
it would be people just looking at zindra open house not thinking about anything but pickin land and looking at the builds..

this is drummed up hype by people with either too much time on their hands or people that have to be the center of attention..

you should really research the people that are out there saying they are doing it for you and me..you might see the skellies in the closet that are there..

there is going to be risk in AR's because now they made it possible..

people doing these protests and things are gonna not care who gets hurt around them..

people like that self destruct on thier own and usually take whoever is around them with them..

i just can't help but think that things would be better if we had some anti witch hunt rules added in the harassment section of the CS..

I hate that people have to move i hate that the sim i live in has to switch to adult now too..
I hate a lot of things but the last thing i would ever hate is another SL'er..

i will say i dislike people that rally mobs on lies then go out like a hate mod to do their bidding to wreck others lives..
we will keep making wall after wall till it's just us lookin at a picture of the good ole days when people got along..
sorry but i got a Sad
i finally just put all that has happened into one big ball and see where we are heading ..
no good will come out of this..

You need to read the details of the incident from the nude woman. You saying there were two times that a child avatar felt the need to go to Zindra.
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Once again i must say, (as you seem more than a bit dense) I need read nothing (although I have) in regards to the naked woman incident. I witnessed the event and know the names of the involved parties. I was not on hand the previous evening when the incident with Marianne occurred, although I have seen pics of it.

These were two seperate incidents involving different child avis.

This issue has been debated and detailed extensively in a now Linden locked thread on Xstreet.

Lias, the only person here that seems to have a problem with the facts is you. Making them up as you go along seems to be your style.

here is one of the child avatars that was there..i'm not gonna put the name without permission because it is from another forum..
the english is off some because i believe he is german..

Alot of people have been here a long time. And there are many people that think child avatars are not a good thing. Not once has anyone taken that agenda and went ot a predominantly child avatar area to plan some sort of framed AR attack. This incident occurred because the child avatar went to the adult continent.

Surely you are referring to the child avatar - because without her performance none of this would have happened.

Your right - if the child avatar person put on a adult (or furrie or dragon or dog) avatar and attended this would be a non issue.
Or people forced to give up their mainland adult business area and then finding out they aren't even being moved to an adult sim (as Linden Lab said) because child avatars want in also.
Why would a person wearing a child's avatar go to a Adult Continent opening party and stay in that avatar and in Zindra after seeing adult content within feet of her? Look into that closet.
They are made possible by Linden Lab not banning child avatars from Zindra (as of yet)
As we witnessed - the nude woman put up with alot personal attacks after her space was invaded by that child avatar.
I could not believe those child avatars pulled that stunt also.
If CS means COMMON SENSE - then common sense should have been used when people wearing child avatars decided to go an Adult Continent - and then stay after seeing what was going on right in front of them.

Bulls---. This "incident" occurred because P- N- is an evil minded old B---, and you've got a bug in your a-- about kid toons. Just like the last "incident" you tried to turn into a crusade over something nobody would think twice about in RL.

no i am talking about the one's with the agenda not the ones without..

please common sense .. lol we all know where that is lacking..

There are some very sick people carrying on about this subject, and they are not the ones with the child avatars...

I would actually be curious about this. What do you see about parcel ratings, say in the following regions:

Clementina (Governor's Mansion)
A random Bay City or Nautilus City road
Mosh (Port of Kama City building)
A random Zindra road

Do they say anything? To be honest, I've not found anyting beyond notes about Welcome Areas/Info Hubs on the Wiki that relate to this

...and just to further clarify, because I'm sure someone will misconstrue this, that above anonymous quote was *not* me.