So why are kids on Zindra?

My logic states that under the 'child avatar in Zindra' mentality - the Adult Content person cannot set up their store next to a Child's Playground that was purposely set up in an Adult Content Continent.
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So if someone built a Live Sex webcam club next door to the playground then the child avatar would have to move?
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So a child avatar could effectively stop a Adult content provider from setting up business in a certain Adult rated Sim by getting there before they drop their Adult content and building a Orphanage or Playground.
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They'd at least have to take measures to separate their parcel from neighboring parcels with adult content. Some kind of wall.

Assuming they refused, I'd bet neighboring landholders would have a pretty good case to AR them for harassment.

In any case, I don't see that happening. At most I see businesses with mostly mundane content being forced to move because of the advertising requirements of part of their inventory. Or non-adult businesses (clothing, hair, etc) setting up a location in Zindra because it proves to be profitable.

There will not be a swarm of child avatars in Zindra.

they are two different regions with two different set of rules..just like a child standing outside on a linden road..he could stand there all day on a pg rated road with a strip club in the sim next to the road..

one region wouldn't affect another..it doesn't now in mature..

So in effect Zindra Continent - that Linden Lab says is a Special Sim for Adult Content - Could be overrun with child avatar content - effectively pushing Adult Content Providers off the grid - because Adult Content Providers have no other place to go but child AVs can go anywhere.

Linden Lab already put out a press release all over the internet that Zindra is their new Adult Continent. Someone randomly teleports to Zindra and sees a child AVs playing on a playground. Then its explained to the visitor that even though Zindra is a adult continent the content can be anything - and if child Avs open a playground the Adult Content providers cannot be in that area.
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As we witnessed - it only takes one.
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They have been, you're just refusing to believe them.

That was a non-issue non-incident that means nothing.

It's conceivable that they could co-exist, but let's suppose they can't. If one person does something on their parcel that unfairly interferes with an abutter, then they can be asked to stop. The same would apply if the first person used scripts, sounds, or whatever that might be fine while the rest of the sim is empty but turn into an unfair use of resources once the rest of the sim is populated.

But consider a less extreme example. Someone opens up a club on Zindra, with a dance floor at ground level and sex rooms 500m up. Now clubs will often have adjacent malls, because the club alone can't support the fees. So the club owner sets up a mall, also on ground level, and starts getting shops. Maybe one of those shops sells PG dance animations, another sells PG clothing, another sells annoying PG gestures, and another sells sex toys.

What's fair? Many of those stores are selling things that would be perfectly fine for kid avs. If you disallow kid avs, those stores will lose business. Or a kid hunting desperately for a really annoying gesture will TP into the gesture store, not realizing that it's on Zindra. But if you allow kids into the mall, and only into the mall, who loses?

So you can't put a t-shirt store next to a child's playground on Zindra?

No, these rules were written for PG and Mature land. Not a full Adult rated Continent. They do not effectively apply to this new Continent classification (please see samples of child content in an Adult Rated Content).
This may satisfy you - but many of LLs paying customers want the Adult Continent to be effectively protected from child avatar scandals. And that is not asking too much.
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no they say zindra is an adult continent that you can have a sim in..it's not a special sim for adult content..it is a continent for adult content in sims with in it..
why do those two words continent and content have to be so closely spelled lol

anyways..i think you are seeing a worst case scenario ..zindra is not the only place you can have adult content..a lot of it is on private islands as well..
and i don't see it getting run over by children..remember this whole thing started because of a few individuals that took things to this level when all some kid avies wanted to do was check out zindra in it's open house..the extremists stirred up this mess ..mainly because they themselves don'e really understand zindra is not rated x that certain sims will be..probaby most of them will be for all we know..

you are not limited to just zindra..that is if you want main land so you will not run out of room..a sim in zindra later probably would cost more than a private island..
and really the most adult content i have seen has been on private islands..and i was in the industry for most of my sl..i have seen tons lol

linden made the rules all we can do is try to understand them..you know and i know they will be adjusted over time to fit how zindra breathes..
they have said it themselves..but i do not think they will take away the right to buy for anyone there that is age approved..

No Lias. That's assumption stacked upon assumption and none of it has even happened yet.

The child avatar couldn't go into the club you mention, but since the person behind the avatar has been fairly thoroughly vetted to NOT be an ACTUAL minor child, it's no one's worry if they happen to cam across the sim.

The whole idea of Zindra was to stop the Aunt Pitty Pats from getting out their smelling salts at the mere notion of adult stuff in Second Life. Sounds like even grid segregation isn't good enough.

Any more imaginary tempests in not yet existent teapots anyone would like to stir up?

Seems the Adult Content provider will need to go into the T-Shirt selling business.
Dashed Dreams of a smut empire.
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Seeing how virtual worlds are a new threshold and all new worlds go through growing pains - it strikes me that I finally have a glimmer what it must've felt like in the fledging United States.

People who were so uptight they couldn't get along with anyone in their homeland, sailed the seas and took land from people already living there, in order to throw their weight around amongst one another. Anyone stepped out of line, trod past accepted decorum, or refused to worship in the manner they deemed appropriate (hypocrisy abounded), was ousted or burned.

Why does this thread call that to mind?

You know, some hire city planners that are paid to make these stacked assumptions. As Kidd pointed out - in his RL job he can impose or not impose zoning that would effect content in an area
Now your catching on. The child avatar grey area needs to be fixed or Auntie will be blogging like it's 2007

I would like you to imagine a child AV dancing around a large penis while a nude woman masturbates. Oh wait, you do not have to imagine it - you can look at it on the internet.

Brilliant.

hehe thats how my family ended up in tennessee .lol apache put on trains sent to florida then scatters in the surrounding states in reservations..some how we got to tennessee
..now i live in a house i bought that used to be a belong to a man that owns the strip club down the highway..he used to house his strippers here..my zindra

This is not about peopel that can afford a full island. It is about a island that is apart of a Adult Continent
A island may make a nice income from a mall. Having one guy there selling Adult Content makes them rate their island Adult and will cut back on shoppers for their sim - and will loose them some retailers. I know alot of island owners that won't host Adult Content because its too much of a hassle.
This is why we have this discussion - to let them consider the adjustments that need to be made before we have another issue.
How can you say that? They took away the right for Adult Content providers to buy and open a business in Mature sims. The precedent has been set.
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i saw the images..and am 100% positive the two that took those images have no understanding of what zindra is about..after hearing one of them i was positive that the images were taken on purpose for the intent to help others misunderstand as well..

there would be a lot less confusion going on if people would just read and comprehend instead of proofread and turn politician making it sound good to get votes..

We already have adult content and pg content on mature sims now coexisting happely, no reason they could not on an adult region, if it would happen is pure speculation because right now there is no non linden content on zindra and I'm not aware of private sims already changing their rating to adult.

the region rate is the maximum rating alowed not the minimum, this has been pointed out before.

My own sims are all mature rated and have both pg and non pg content on them, this has never given any problems, the only reports on indecency I got was from a nakid adult av walkin into a home of another adult av.no child avs involved.

btw an avatar can not own land or build content, that is limited to agents, avatars are only a reprecentation of an agent (an agent has an avatar camera and microphone and can interact with objects scripts and land) this is forgivable because even in sls agents and avatars get mixed up.

Is this some veiled crack about colonizing America? You are waaay of topic.
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The rules currently on view in the knowledge base are already the new Adult Content rules, written for PG, Mature, and Adult land. Not only are these the new rules you say are yet to come, Linden Labs has been modifying them continually in the face of customer feedback since they were announced in March... and yes they HAVE modified them. The time for you to make your appeal was months ago, but you were too busy flaming about naked kids on Mature land instead.

sorry i'm not gonna split all these up i'll just nswer them hehehehe...

did they take away the right to buy or just buy and set up adult content outside of adult areas?
no they did not take away the right to buy.that is how i can say that..
and the main argument is zindra is our last place..i just showed you it's not by using private islands as a way that it won't leave you without an option..
you can buy partial lots in private islands just like you can in a main land sim..they are not all malls..

and about the adjustments..well for now these are the facts that i have been telling you ..not some fantasy forecast of horrors that may never happen..

you are dancing around the facts trying to find some way to make a continent content..
so is everyone one that has made a thread..

if LL makes the changes then they will ..but for now those other people are preaching either with lies or ignorance to facts..

The rules were written for content. The content is not changing, only the location.

The rules have worked pretty well for the past couple years. I believe they will with with Adult regions now as well.

If they do not, they can be changed to address whatever shortcomings become apparent. It is premature to be rewriting rules for problems that don't yet exist.