So why are kids on Zindra?

what the kids are doing is stealing dad wallet and getting a credit number and getting into the adult grid

Your statement here is not clear to me. The child AV came into Zindra after the nude woman (the nude woman had been there for several hours).
We read it over and over again. And it is inefficient and needs to be clarified. When the current policies are put to the test - we get situations like the one mentioned here. And that is not going to fly in the long run.
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65 pages, Milla, does not a non-issue make.
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i was thinking more along the lines of Poland....circa 1939...

in protest in a public place..care to look at the rules and tell me if she owns land there or not?

until that time comes this is the final draft ..you don't adjust and wait till later to follow the rules..you follow the rules until they change..

Take off the child Avand go shopping in Zindra - what's so outrageous about that?
when someone is wearing a kid AV and has no intention of taking it off before shopping. They should un-check Adult when searching. Its really quite simple.
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The hysteria over this is absurd.

The first people to take up residence in Zindra are already here, they have parcels on mature land right this very minute and we don't have a big rumpus about the presence of child avatars.

Nowehere have I seen it said that the community standards do not apply to Zindra. That means that people playing with themselves on Linden roads are breaching community standards.

At the end of the day it's going to boil down to respecting the wishes of the parcel owner, as it does now.

Its just the "People who were so uptight they couldn't get along with anyone in their homeland" crack that could be construed as being insensitive to people's historical plight.
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Oh, sure it does, people can go on forever about nothing.

Let's just relax and see what happens. If there's a problem the current TOS and Community Standards fail to address, we'll work to get it fixed.

Nothing could possibly make LL happier than to have the Adult content providers pushed off the grid because there was so much PG demand that Zindra filled with swingsets and slides. They should be so lucky.

Yes, Zindra is the Adult Mainland continent. All the sims that are part of Zindra will be rated to allow Adult content. But we already know for a fact that this does not permit adult content and behavior everywhere on Zindra. Ortiz infohub proves that beyond a doubt. We do not have a definitive ruling about what can and can't happen on other Linden land on Zindra, but I'd venture that adult avatars humping on Linden land would meet with an unfortunate end.

We also know that Zindra landowners are free to rez on their land any kind of content that's acceptable anywhere on the grid. Including PG. Including swingsets and slides. That's how it's always been on Mature land, and that's how it will be on Zindra.

If child avatars are seen in proximity to scandalous sexual situations, it will be a Governance judgment call about whether an AR is valid against those in the scene. I daresay a parcel boundary will be quite enough to make that proximity too distant for Governance, even on one of its bad days. To LL and in court it would be the same as two different webpages that happen to be hyperlinked.

If the trash news media dream up a way to pose that as a scandal, well, big surprise there. If they had to, they'd connive a way to pose sexual ageplayers in the Governor's Mansion on a slow news day.

[*ETA: I meant to mention that we also know that Zindra landowners will be free to ban any behavior they wish from their land, including any Adult content or activities whatsoever. I do not have to allow rifles on my Mature land now, and I won't have to on Zindra. The same goes for guns. ]

The 65 pages weren't caused by Mari. They were caused by assholes trying to make an issue out of it.

missed it by that much, Lias.

well it's an easy read to figure out but some refuse to accept the rules..
this won't end well for some i guess hehhehehehe

And during this spray latest spray of compulsive ranting from you Lias, tell us, how many pedos have you bought to justice and how many victims have you helped?

It'd be none as usual.

In fact people like you could well be said to be helping them, deflecting all the blame and sucking all the energy and concern onto your own agenda about one style of av, when we all know a pedo could come online in any style of av and go to any rated area.

Both the child AV and the nude woman were there with Linden Lab employees laughing and having a good time.. What some find acceptable within their SL can be deemed unacceptable when it hits the internet. This child avatar in adult settings continues to fall in that category.
That child avatar standing amongst adult content in Zindra was following the rules as they are now. The media outside SL had gotten a hold of this now it will continue to be internet fodder until LL fixes the problem or some outside influence does it for them.
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Yes, this is the same as not being able to rate your parcel m on a pg sim as things exist today (despite the check box in the about land menu). Furthermore, if you buy a pg mainland sim, you can't change it's designation to mature 9or adult for that matter).

If it were that easy, no one would have to move to Zindra.

Now, of course you can build content of any rating or lesser on a parcel. That means that pg builds can be built on any parcel. The inverse is not true. Adult only may be built on adult.

All land owned by the Governor is rated pg, no matter the class of the rest of the sim.

The nude woman was there the next day. I saw her when I went over there to get the free content in the LL wall vendors. As a matter of fact, I saw the child avis arrive and the ensuing drama. No Lindens were in the crowd, unless they were incognito.

Also the only person partying was the nude woman. Everyone else was sightseeing.

You mean Lias was being economical with the truth?

if the adult setting is on private land not public land where sex play of any kind is not allowed.
we can go to the CS for this one if you would like..


then let there be fodder..it's only gonna drive up the adult content peoples income..you should want scandals like this..it's where that flood of people come to sl because they heard something that made them horny in the news lol

all those scandals blow over in time..it won't hurt zindra or LL..

I am reminded of Sky News showing a photo of a group of child avatars in the audience at a debate on their own sim, in which they called all the child avatars in attendance "deviants." Anyone can create a scandal if they want to.

thank you =)

i wish more would understand this part

They took away the right for me to have my adult content on the land bought. And if a child avatar sets up a business in a Adult Continent sim that has child avatar content I get that right taken away from me again.
From my understanding - any Adult Content on a private island makes it Adult Rated. And many island owners that use their island as for general retail sales do not want to wall themselves off from some of the shoppers.
We saw the fantasy horror picture on the internet. It's already a very real issue.
Linden Lab stated its a Adult Continent. I am not sure what is unclear to you about that.
The purpose of Zindra was not to make what we saw in that picture acceptable on the grid. It was to move adult content away from the other content. How does encouraging child avatars to bring their content to Zindra meet this goal? Linden Lab needs to write rules that clearly make Zindra a what is is suppose to be and meet the goals of this project.
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So why help them?
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No, that's something you made up.

This is not true. The entire continent of Zindra is rated Adult. As per Linden Lab. You can rate your content in Zindra PG. But the Continent is Adult.
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